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Re: U.S. Trade Embargo Against Cuba Must End!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:40 pm
by bobevenson
rantal wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Again, I ask for a justification of any embargo!
Can you not read I cite one above

all the best, rantal
It's hard to wade through all the crap you wrote that doesn't even address the issue of embargoes, but let me say again, embargoes are rarely if ever successful, always harm innocent people, and are therefore crimes against humanity.

Re: U.S. Trade Embargo Against Cuba Must End!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:52 pm
by rantal
bobevenson wrote:
rantal wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Again, I ask for a justification of any embargo!
Can you not read I cite one above

all the best, rantal
It's hard to wade through all the crap you wrote that doesn't even address the issue of embargoes, but let me say again, embargoes are rarely if ever successful, always harm innocent people, and are therefore crimes against humanity.

Almost an argument, congratulations, howeer the reasoning is faulty

all the best, rantal

Re: U.S. Trade Embargo Against Cuba Must End!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:26 pm
by bobevenson
rantal wrote:Almost an argument, congratulations, howeer the reasoning is faulty.
Of course, as usual, you don't want to explain yourself since it might start a new trend.

Re: U.S. Trade Embargo Against Cuba Must End!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:23 am
by rantal
bobevenson wrote:
rantal wrote:Almost an argument, congratulations, howeer the reasoning is faulty.
Of course, as usual, you don't want to explain yourself since it might start a new trend.
It should be obvious why your reasoning is faulty;
but let me say again, embargoes are rarely if ever successful, always harm innocent people, and are therefore crimes against humanity.
Even were it true that embargoes always harm innocent people, it does not necessarily follow that they are crimes against humanity. Many things harm innocent people. To show it is a crime against humanity it would be necessary to show that the harm done outweighed the potential benefit and that the harm was serious.

al the best, rantal

Re: U.S. Trade Embargo Against Cuba Must End!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:48 am
by bobevenson
rantal wrote:
bobevenson wrote:
rantal wrote:Almost an argument, congratulations, howeer the reasoning is faulty.
Of course, as usual, you don't want to explain yourself since it might start a new trend.
It should be obvious why your reasoning is faulty;
but let me say again, embargoes are rarely if ever successful, always harm innocent people, and are therefore crimes against humanity.
Even were it true that embargoes always harm innocent people, it does not necessarily follow that they are crimes against humanity. Many things harm innocent people. To show it is a crime against humanity it would be necessary to show that the harm done outweighed the potential benefit and that the harm was serious.
I guess what you're saying is that if a crook hits you over the head and takes your money, the only defense he needs is that the potential benefit to him outweighs your loss and the bump on your head.

Re: U.S. Trade Embargo Against Cuba Must End!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:24 am
by rantal
No, try and think for a moment, I know it is hard for you but give it a go, the more you do it, the easier it gets!

The theif benefits himself, the country operating the trade embaro may actually cause some harm to itself and may cause harm short term and may lead to benefit long term to the people agaisnt whom the embargo is set. Your analogy therefore fails

all the best, rantal

Re: U.S. Trade Embargo Against Cuba Must End!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:19 pm
by bobevenson
Sorry, but you can't justify embargoes on an if/come basis. Using embargoes as poker chips to win a big pot for the people is gambling on behalf of the people, but not authorized by the people, who should not be expected to tolerate a loss they cannot afford.

Re: U.S. Trade Embargo Against Cuba Must End!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:41 pm
by rantal
Please read more carefully and think before you reply

all the best, rantal

Re: U.S. Trade Embargo Against Cuba Must End!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:49 pm
by bobevenson
rantal wrote:Please read more carefully and think before you reply

all the best, rantal
Again, your typical response of criticizing without specifically making a point, your ring-around-the-rosy approach.