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henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 1:32 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:59 am

Nuthin' in all that I wanna comment on, so...

Every thing in all of that I wanted to express and show how human beings, like the one known as "henry quirk", really were like, back in those 'olden days'.

Age wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:31 pm Every thing in all of that I wanted to express and show how human beings, like the one known as "henry quirk", really were like, back in those 'olden days'.

Bully for you.

Again: Nuthin' in all that I wanna comment on, so...

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:36 pm

Age wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:31 pm Every thing in all of that I wanted to express and show how human beings, like the one known as "henry quirk", really were like, back in those 'olden days'.

Bully for you.

Again: Nuthin' in all that I wanna comment on, so...

Allegedly so, but do you keep commenting.

Age wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:39 pm Allegedly so, but do you keep commenting.

Point taken.

Please, in pain-staking detail, tell me how you arrived at this...

Age wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:42 amSo, to "henry quirk" anyway, children and the "disabled" are lesser people that it is.

...conclusion.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:08 pm Please, in pain-staking detail, tell me how you arrived at this...

Age wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:42 amSo, to "henry quirk" anyway, children and the "disabled" are lesser people that it is.

...conclusion.

Sure, and thank you for seeking out elaboration and/or clarification, here. Although what your 'current' beliefs, really, are here came shining through brightly and thus crystal clear. Anyway, you claim that,

'A person is not his soul. A person is the union of body and soul, co-equal.'

Now, removing and forgetting about the Truly absurd, False, and Wrong use of the 'his' word here, let 'us' look at the rest.

you have maintained in this forum, and here again in this thread, that a 'person' is 'a body', (and soul, co-equal), however, and in the most simplest and easiest of terms this then means that a smaller body would be a lesser 'person'.

Does one become less of 'a person' if an arm or a leg is amputated/chopped off?

If yes, then how, exactly?

But, if no, then 'a person' is not 'the body', obviously.

Therefore, a 'person' is something else.

Bodies are made up of matter, only, and, of course, the space, or distance, between matter, 'human bodies' included. Now, if any one wants to 'look at' and call a material 'human body', itself, 'a person', then one, freely, can. But 'that one' would also have to accept that there are 'bigger' and 'smaller' people, as well. Which again any one 'can' choose to do this, if they 'want to'.

But, to 'look at' and 'see' people as being 'bigger' or 'smaller' than each other, or 'lesser' or 'greater' than each other, is a 'category error'.

When the word 'person' is referring to the 'invisible soul', if one likes, instead of a 'visible body', then this works well, and perfectly, with 'an universal view', which is One that every one could agree with, and accept.

Now, to put this into 'more detail, or to just make it more thoroughly Correct, when the word 'person' refers to the 'invisible part/s' of a 'human being', that is; the thoughts and emotions, within a 'human body', then what can be 'clearly seen' is that 'no person' is 'less than' nor 'greater than' any other person. All people then are equal, although obviously very different but also obviously equal, and the 'exact same'.

(Now, I can go into this, in far, far more, (so-called 'pain-staking'), detail about how 'individual visible human bodies' behave, or misbehave, because of the 'person', or 'invisible individual thoughts' within, which will end up showing, and proving, how it is all backed up, supported, verified, and confirmed, absolutely, and irrefutably. If one so wants me to. But,)

I will just add that the word 'person' can also be broken down to 'per', and, 'son', and how 'through' 'teachings' 'one' becomes a 'son of hu/man', or, a 'son of God'. And, how 'per teachings', or 'through teachings', and 'learning' 'one' grows up/matures into be-ccoming 'hu/man-like', or, 'God-like', and how 'per evolution', or 'through evolution', there is 'no conclusion' that 'evolution', itself, was ever going to stop at nor with 'hu/man'.

If a 'visible material human body' behaves or misbehaves then this is, solely, because of 'the invisible soul', 'the invisible thoughts and emotions', 'the person' within, 'in-form-ing' how 'that body' 'moves'.

All 'people' are the 'exact same', that is; invisible individual thoughts, and emotions, within visible individual human bodies. AND, all 'people' are 'different', and 'individual', because all 'individual different human bodies' experience 'individual different things'. How each and every 'one' of 'you', individual and different 'selfs' or 'people' be-came 'the way' that 'you' all are was, solely, because of what each and every individual different 'human body' 'has experienced'. It was 'through' 'the experiences' of 'the body' that 'you', 'people', have be-come 'who' 'you' are, that is; 'through experiences', and thus 'through teachings and leanings, 'a per-son', evolves, being ape-like, human-like, or, God-like.

A 'per-son' can be either a 'child of hu/man', or a 'child of God'. And, all 'children' can be-come an adult human, or 'grow up' and 'mature' properly and Correctly to be and be-come God.

So, a question here, now, could be whether; To be-come and be 'adult-like', or, to be-come and be 'God-like'.

What do 'you', as a 'per-son', want 'to be-come, and be'? Obviously, evolution, itself, will never stop at just 'you', 'a person', within a 'human body'.

So, really, do 'you', 'a person', have a choice of what is 'be-coming'?

Can 'you', really, choose what 'to be', or 'not to be'?

Obviously, 'I' am going 'off-topic', or 'stepping ahead', here, once again. But, if 'one' 'looks at' and 'sees' 'a person' as 'less than' or 'more or better than' another, than harm and damage 'to some' while love and respect to 'others' can be and will be given, and given differently. Which is obviously inappropriate, unacceptable, and undeserved.

Every 'person' is the 'equal' because absolutely all are the 'exact same', that is; the thoughts and feelings within a 'human body'. Every 'human body', however, different in size, shape, and form. Although, and obviously 'every body', including 'every human body', as well is also made up of the 'exact same thing', that is; matter, itself.

By the way, I could go on, 'painstakingly', longer if you would like me to.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:10 am

A person is a person, no matter how *small. -Dr. Seuss

By the way, I could go on, 'painstakingly', longer if you would like me to.

Please, continue.




*or large, or damaged, or... the condition or size or completeness of the body ain't got nuthin' to do with it, age

A person is the union of body and soul, co-equal. Full stop.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:17 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:10 am

A person is a person, no matter how *small. -Dr. Seuss

By the way, I could go on, 'painstakingly', longer if you would like me to.

Please, continue.




*or large, or damaged, or... the condition or size or completeness of the body ain't got nuthin' to do with it, age

A person is the union of body and soul, co-equal. Full stop.

So, "henry quirk" believes, absolutely, that some of you people are 'lesser than' "henry quirk" is. Which is one reason why "henry quirk" would shoot, and shoot you dead, for just even attempting to take a stake piece of bread, which "henry quirk" wants to believe is "its property'". "henry quirk" believes, absolutely, that you have far lesser rights to 'life' and 'living' because you are a lesser person than it is and because it has given things like pieces of bread or toothpicks and "it ownership" of property more importance that 'your life'.

And, again, because some people are 'lesser than' what "henry quirk" believes it is. Full stop.

By the way, God is the union of matter and Spirit, co-equal. you people are not. But, considering the fact that "henry quirk" believes that God is, laughingly, a 'person', there there is no wonder for the confusion 'henry quirk' is showing here, nor for the belief that "henry quirk" believes that it is God-like in its beliefs that it is the one to pick and choose you does and does not live, here.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:48 pm

You have interpreted, in a particularly ugly way, something that's very simple and direct and which allows for no prejudice.

Again: A person is the union of body and soul, co-equal.

You can put whatever qualifier you like in front of body...

A person is the union of fat body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of skinny body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of crippled body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of old body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of sick body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of ugly body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of diseased body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of healthy body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of strong body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of [insert qualifier of your choice] body and soul, co-equal.

...and the statement remains the same: A person is the union of body and soul, co-equal.

The only qualifier that renders the statement untrue is dead.

For the record, body, in context, includes brain.

Do you get it now? Or has that brick wall around your mind hobbled you one more time?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:34 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:48 pm

You have interpreted, in a particularly ugly way, something that's very simple and direct and which allows for no prejudice.

Again: A person is the union of body and soul, co-equal.

You can put whatever qualifier you like in front of body...

A person is the union of fat body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of skinny body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of crippled body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of old body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of sick body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of ugly body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of diseased body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of healthy body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of strong body and soul, co-equal.

A person is the union of [insert qualifier of your choice] body and soul, co-equal.

But why would I insert some thing of my choice to some thing that is just absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, Incorrect anyway?

you, however, are absolutely free to 'look at', and 'judge', 'people' based upon the size and shape of human bodies, if this so please you.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:34 am ...and the statement remains the same: A person is the union of body and soul, co-equal.

you, still, have not yet worked it out.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:34 am The only qualifier that renders the statement untrue is dead

Plus the other things .

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:34 am For the record, body, in context, includes brain.

LOL Why did you assume/believe that it was necessary to add this part, here?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:34 am Do you get it now?

I have gotten that you try to fit things in, which just do not and could not work in, in for quite a while already, now.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:34 am Or has that brick wall around your mind hobbled you one more time?

So, to "henry quirk" anyway, you people are bodies, (and some other thing/s). Full stop.

By the way, and contrary to the popular belief in the 'olden days' when this is being written, you people did not have 'your minds'.

But, within the walls that you have created around "yourself" "henry quirk" you are not yet even able to just consider this, right?

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:40 am

No.

A person is the union of body and soul, co-equal.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:47 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:40 am

No.

A person is the union of body and soul, co-equal.

LOL The 'wall' is 'rock solid' around 'this one'

Crom, on your smoky mountain top, gimme strength.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:07 am Crom, on your smoky mountain top, gimme strength.

Yes, 'this one' really does believe what it does here.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:47 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:40 am

No.

A person is the union of body and soul, co-equal.

Will you tell 'us', in detail, how you arrived at this ...

A person is the union of body and soul, co-equal.

... conclusion?