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Posted: **Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:56 pm**

That is fine IAMS. But I am now putting you on ignore. Sorry old bean. It is simply that you are incapable of conversation.

Posted: **Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:24 pm**

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:56 pm That is fine IAMS. But I am now putting you on ignore. Sorry old bean. It is simply that you are incapable of conversation.

Yet another objectivist comes to realize it is perhaps best to keep me out of their head. That way it is far more likely they will stay up on their own One True Path to Enlightenment. Philosophically or otherwise.

Indeed, not unlike these...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_r ... traditions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... ideologies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... philosophy

...folks.

If you get my drift.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:37 am**

promethean75 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:00 amWiggle22 avoids the hard existential questions Biggs becuz he knows there can be no real practical application of his philosophy in a modern world that will certainly involve race mixing as a result of freedom of movement and the dependency of countries on one another for trade and investing.

It simply doesn't matter if u have a plot of land with one hundred million blonde white people with IQs of 100 or higher and then a bunch of ugly dummies from another race moved in. The good genes will selectively prevail regardless and however u mixed it up, you'd end up with an average that's pretty decent.

Most people with average IQs would be much more sophisticated if they were developed in a better environment (family, education, health care, livable wages, positive peer groups, etc.). So don't worry about an actual idiocracy ever evolving becuz it'll never get that bad. Most people have average IQs, they're just underdeveloped.

And keep in mind most loser low lifes from third world countries don't have the means to move to first world European countries. They're so hard up they can't even make the journey, much less be legally eligible for entry and/or citizenship.

The only salient point you made here is freedom of movement. But across the US, most racially different peoples willingly choose to segregate themselves, in both large cities and small towns. The middle class presentation of the 90s, where white-black-brown-yellow men lived together as neighbors in the Suburbs (think "Family Guy" sitcom here), has evaporated. Because the middle class was gutted after the 2000s and rendered no longer useful to the Globalist planners. This is why race relations have descended into chaos, beginning with the US, and extending outward into NATO countries and the Western-influenced world.

Instead propaganda moved to social media and purely digital platforms. The Cultural Marxism is apparent in television commercials now, movies and television shows made after 2008.

Therefore, it doesn't matter what your suburbia looks like, instead the focus switched to what your social media, newsfeed, and Hollywood goyslop tech platforms look like. Increasingly, people don't have the IQ or sophistication to block-out the newer forms of propaganda. And it's become too expensive. The result is, you need to watch interracial gangbangs in every Cheerios ad or every Old Spice deodorant ad.

The new warfare is over the mind of the masses, directly.

And this is just scratching the surface. Consider what myself or Alexis Jacobi are "allowed" to say on this forum. It's a fine line when it comes to political correctness, which is the real subject matter here. There are those like biggy, who would never dare cross it themselves, but want to taunt others who would. Because that's where the arguments and conflicts really matter. It matters what people can convince one another, regarding matters of 'purity of race', or who ought to have sex with whom.

But the double-digit IQs hold us back from really burning a trail down that path, philosophically.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:12 pm**

mm i see you're still drinking the kool aid. The short answer is 'cultural Marxism' (whatever that is) has nothing to do with this and people of all colors, shapes and sizes are moving around the planet becuz they're so broke. Can u guess why they're broke?

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:55 pm**

promethean75 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:12 pmmm i see you're still drinking the kool aid. The short answer is 'cultural Marxism' (whatever that is) has nothing to do with this and people of all colors, shapes and sizes are moving around the planet becuz they're so broke.

That's not true because some European countries still have strict immigration laws, rules, and employ them.

Some countries in the world still have National autonomy.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:12 pmCan u guess why they're broke?

Low IQ

Posted: **Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:18 pm**

"low IQ"

One would think that had something to do with it but check this out bro. If there are enough low skill level fields to provide jobs for all people - and there are - you can blame the politics and economics responsible for not developing on that principle and making that possible.

In other words, there's two ways to look at it. One is, the people are dumb and that's why they suck. Another is, the people are dumb but wouldn't suck if they were productively employed. So then who's fault is it that they aren't employed? Well that would be a compound argument and too complicated what with all the causal factors involved.

Now couldn't we ultimately say that if jobs are there (untapped) and there are people to take to them, it must be due to some kind of gross mismanagement of the economy and the possibilities of production and distribution?

Say u could use a hunerd thousand more crops of whatever. And you have three times that in dumb laborers, who, incidentally, being unable to find employment in the free market, suck becuz they are broke. Half of em are criminal and on welfare. But becuz nobody will sponsor the crop initiative becuz they're investing in other shit and it's their money they'll do what i want (cartman), these dumb laborers remain unemployed and suck becuz of it. It's not the private buisness owner's fault becuz he's not responsible for Juan or obligated to employ him. It's the system's fault... the system as a complex of conditions and causes/effects. One yuge such effect of the free market is a lot of unemployed low IQs who suck.

Anyway In this instance u couldn't say that the reason they suck is becuz they have a low IQ... becuz there is a logically possible universe somewhere in which the crop initiative took place and all those dumb laborers with low IQs are now happily employed and don't suck.

One of the very first things we gotta do is modernize all third world countries with tech sufficient to produce and sustain an industrial revolution of an enormous scale. Imagine the productive output you'd get if u got everyone in Uganda a quick basic education and a low skill job in manufacturing or agriculture.

Posted: **Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:43 pm**

promethean75 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:18 pm "low IQ"

One would think that had something to do with it but check this out bro. If there are enough low skill level fields to provide jobs for all people - and there are - you can blame the politics and economics responsible for not developing on that principle and making that possible.

In other words, there's two ways to look at it. One is, the people are dumb and that's why they suck. Another is, the people are dumb but wouldn't suck if they were productively employed. So then who's fault is it that they aren't employed? Well that would be a compound argument and too complicated what with all the causal factors involved.

Now couldn't we ultimately say that if jobs are there (untapped) and there are people to take to them, it must be due to some kind of gross mismanagement of the economy and the possibilities of production and distribution?

Say u could use a hunerd thousand more crops of whatever. And you have three times that in dumb laborers, who, incidentally, being unable to find employment in the free market, suck becuz they are broke. Half of em are criminal and on welfare. But becuz nobody will sponsor the crop initiative becuz they're investing in other shit and it's their money they'll do what i want (cartman), these dumb laborers remain unemployed and suck becuz of it. It's not the private buisness owner's fault becuz he's not responsible for Juan or obligated to employ him. It's the system's fault... the system as a complex of conditions and causes/effects. One yuge such effect of the free market is a lot of unemployed low IQs who suck.

Anyway In this instance u couldn't say that the reason they suck is becuz they have a low IQ... becuz there is a logically possible universe somewhere in which the crop initiative took place and all those dumb laborers with low IQs are now happily employed and don't suck.

One of the very first things we gotta do is modernize all third world countries with tech sufficient to produce and sustain an industrial revolution of an enormous scale. Imagine the productive output you'd get if u got everyone in Uganda a quick basic education and a low skill job in manufacturing or agriculture.

What is a 'low skill' job? A job is either done well or done badly. I admire anyone who does their job well. There are plenty of useless doctors out there, and worse-than-useless 'academics' who sit in their ivory towers with nothing better to do than make mischief all day.
My grandmother was a wonderful life coach. She told me about how she got a job folding cardboard boxes in a factory. When she was being shown around she noticed one worker who was amazingly fast and efficient. A Down's syndrome woman. My grandmother thought that it must be easy if that person can do it. She soon found out otherwise. She lasted one week in the job.

Posted: **Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:29 pm**

Holy shit u think I mean 'low skill' in a deragatory way? Nah man i just mean that there are simple jobs for relatively unintelligent people. Neither am i saying that they suck becuz of being relatively unintelligent... but becuz of not being gainfully employed.

I'm good with low intelligence people tho becuz your homeboy Nietzsche said that noble spirits should tolerate mediocrity.

Posted: **Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:50 pm**

promethean75 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:29 pm Holy shit u think I mean 'low skill' in a deragatory way? Nah man i just mean that there are simple jobs for relatively unintelligent people. Neither am i saying that they suck becuz of being relatively unintelligent... but becuz of not being gainfully employed.

I'm good with low intelligence people tho becuz your homeboy Nietzsche said that noble spirits should tolerate mediocrity.

Nothing to do with 'low intelligence'. My grandmother was brilliant in so many ways, but she was useless at folding cardboard boxes.

Posted: **Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:01 am**

It's not always how well we can solve a puzzle contrived by an academic with an overinflated ego. People who can focus their minds on thankless, boring but socially necessary tasks that they are commanded to do can be of just as much pragmatic value (if not more). I read somewhere that Bertrand Russell reached a point where he couldn't brew a pot of tea by himself, and had to get someone to assist him with it, perhaps because his mind was preoccupied with "more important" matters. We celebrate Russell's contributions to humanity with the highest regard and/or attention that can be thought of or devoted to him. The person who made him tea maybe got a small pension and died happy knowing that his life wasn't as big of a joke.

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Posted: **Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:54 am**

promethean75 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:18 pm"low IQ"

One would think that had something to do with it but check this out bro. If there are enough low skill level fields to provide jobs for all people - and there are - you can blame the politics and economics responsible for not developing on that principle and making that possible.

In other words, there's two ways to look at it. One is, the people are dumb and that's why they suck. Another is, the people are dumb but wouldn't suck if they were productively employed. So then who's fault is it that they aren't employed? Well that would be a compound argument and too complicated what with all the causal factors involved.

Now couldn't we ultimately say that if jobs are there (untapped) and there are people to take to them, it must be due to some kind of gross mismanagement of the economy and the possibilities of production and distribution?

Say u could use a hunerd thousand more crops of whatever. And you have three times that in dumb laborers, who, incidentally, being unable to find employment in the free market, suck becuz they are broke. Half of em are criminal and on welfare. But becuz nobody will sponsor the crop initiative becuz they're investing in other shit and it's their money they'll do what i want (cartman), these dumb laborers remain unemployed and suck becuz of it. It's not the private buisness owner's fault becuz he's not responsible for Juan or obligated to employ him. It's the system's fault... the system as a complex of conditions and causes/effects. One yuge such effect of the free market is a lot of unemployed low IQs who suck.

Anyway In this instance u couldn't say that the reason they suck is becuz they have a low IQ... becuz there is a logically possible universe somewhere in which the crop initiative took place and all those dumb laborers with low IQs are now happily employed and don't suck.

One of the very first things we gotta do is modernize all third world countries with tech sufficient to produce and sustain an industrial revolution of an enormous scale. Imagine the productive output you'd get if u got everyone in Uganda a quick basic education and a low skill job in manufacturing or agriculture.

I know you glorify Communism and Marxism, but think about this long and hard—do you really want Democrats dictating the jobs you can and cannot do, will or will not do???

Posted: **Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:02 am**

I don't believe that Racism will ever end.

You cant have a world filled with corrections and discipline developed into this concerning community working and prospering into one constant flow civilization and some sense of network. this isn't he course of humankind nor existence as we know it. As we know it will be something of tragic and hostility. This is how things will proceed. this is how things will keep developing. In this wicked world there are things people cannot change and one of these many things that developed when Adam bit the apple was a chaotic mindset of selfish desires and relentless contribution to the "Selfs" desires.

People will hate people. That's just how the word is going to work and operate.
We will hate.
we will transpire actions against said hated.
we will proceed operations to limit the hated.
we will propagate on the value of how much one hates the chosen hated.
The hated will hate back.

We must not let them limit us. We must stand defined and united.

Posted: **Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:08 pm**

"People who can focus their minds on thankless, boring but socially necessary tasks that they are commanded to do (by their jobs)"

My parentheses. If the proletariat restructures society right, in the future people will be working much less and everyone will have far more vocational mobility; they can switch fields anytime provided there's an opening and they're competent enough to perform the job.

The drudgery that we experience today in the 21rst century is not at all necessary.... but it is a necessary condition for capitalism to exist. Limitless mass production is the goal... keep them working for as long as legally possible to make as much as u can. Lol there was actually a law that was passed to make the work day only eight hours long.

Now here u can wager a theory. The protestant revolution was the religious expression of the new industrializing middle working class's experience of drudgery. That was the 'sigh' Karl was talkin about. See whuddum sayin? The gravitational force of Christianity did not come orginally from a spiritual longing but from a longing for liberation from the suffering of labor. Note the slave origins of Christianity.

And today it remains as one of the two official working class opiates. The other is alcohol.

Posted: **Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:11 pm**

Alexis Jacobi to iambiguous wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:56 pm That is fine IAMS. But I am now putting you on ignore. Sorry old bean. It is simply that you are incapable of conversation.

Says the cowardly narcissist who avoids questions and challenges from 'the audience' as he is only interested in pompously parading around on the stage in his stiffly starched pantaloons and self-important feathered cap.

Posted: **Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:09 pm**

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:56 pm That is fine IAMS. But I am now putting you on ignore. Sorry old bean. It is simply that you are incapable of conversation.

When will I be getting that honor

I made myself incapable a long time ago!

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