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reasonvemotion wrote:
SoB was systematically targeted and then a brutal attempt to destroy and humiliate him took place.
He has much to contribute to this forum and in an interesting and unique way. I do hope he returns.
Thank God that Bob the Baptist will never need a sock puppet, O my brothers in tribulation!chaz wyman wrote:Sock puppet alert !!!
SpheresOfBalance wrote: That's right, ****!
Losers always resort to complaining about spelling and grammar, as only the point matters, what a thin veil you hide behind.chaz wyman wrote:You might want to check your grammar.SpheresOfBalance wrote:chaz wyman wrote:QED
Takes two freak, suffers from illusion!
At least you acknowledge yourself as a Freak.- An appellation I would not apply to myself.
At least I can admit when I err. "To err is human," you Megalomaniac.chaz wyman wrote:At least you got that right.SpheresOfBalance wrote:Error, my screwup!
With respect to me, you have "absolutely" no idea as to what I believe, what I am, what I'm capable of, etc. You're speaking of me shows only your ignorance of me. And the quickness with which you have need of stroking your ego, in this ignorance. Such that in the end you speak more of your inabilities than of mine.artisticsolution wrote:Hi Lance,
L:I am not so sure of your synopsis of K here. K often rebukes "those" and "they", he speaks against "philsophers" and does actual take up against "Christians who are not christians".
To me, K doesnt get mad at peoploe or groups (till his later years), he makes fun of them, and is pointing a finger by using one's assertions against one.
AS: To Me K makes fun of even himself. He is pointing his finger at even himself. I believe he is saying, "Have you ever wondered what makes us refuse to see ourselves as we are"...instead of saying, "Have you ever wondered why YOU refuse to see yourself as you are?" We cannot deny that K has a wonderful sense of humor in his writing style and while I amn not sure he had the same social personality as his pen names, I think had circumstances been different he might have. One thing is for certain...he could not make himself do what he thought wrong even though society said it was the "right" thing to do. He marched to his own drummer.
L:I do not see K as asking anyone 'what is your thoughts' nor even implicating the question. I see him as understanding what the thought already is and addressing its silliness and offering a solution in the silliness.
AS: Have you read, "Purity of heart is to will one thing" yet? I finished it while on vacation. And I disagree with what you are saying here. I think he was totally asking for people to think....but yes...he knew he could never know their thoughts...in fact he says just that in POHITWOT.
Yes, I agree that he understood most better than they understood themselves...but that is only because he wasn't afraid to see himself for what he was he wasn't afraid. He was alone in those thoughts...as most people can see everybody elses faults but rarely there own...as if they are not apart of the human race. K included himself in the human part of humanity.
He laughed at himself. He was free to ask the tough questions of himself...but underneath is the seriousness of those questions...that brought him to depression. Was it that no one could understand or maybe it is more like no one wanted to face such harshness? He masked the severity of his thoughts with humor and Christianity. I believe if he hadn't he would have been locked up for having such thoughts.
As it is now it is impossible to have this conversation with most people. Just look a sob coming unglued. I think you are about the only one here that can address difficult concepts without coming unglued...I find it refreshing. But really, what is the biggie about words? If people were able to ask the tough questions without having to act...I think there would be peace. Because deep down we know what N and K is saying is true ( at least those with at least average intelligence) it's just that we have been taught not to think lest those thoughts and questions turn us all into "little Hitler's"....is why they are so taboo.
We can see this clearly when we see SOB's quick to turn against N without bothering to understand the underlying meaning. SOB has clearly fallin into the trap of axiom's set upon him by society and yet he can't even see it. Wrong is wrong and right is right...and no further thought need be required. But really...what is wrong with just supposing for a second that society taught you wrong from the get go? Do you remember that Steve Martin routine where he says, "Suppose you raised a child from birth and you taught him to speak wrong...so that on the first day of kindergarten he raises his hand and says, "May I mombo dogface in the banana patch?" LOL funny yes....but it has very serious undertones...I mean if SOB has been taught to not question anything...to the point that it becomes taboo? I mean...come on...shit...it's only a freaking thought! It blows my mind that someone could seriously put blinders on and say, "Nope I can't even think that thought!" Wow...right?
Society is about control....society is fearful that the message could be distorted in the wrong hands...and while that is somewhat true...at least with the ignorance of existentialism we see today, it is not true that if more people could feel free to ask those types of questions...in a sense that it was natural to ask such questions....I believe that those questions would no longer shock the herd...those questions would become a natural part of questioning why we think the way we do...we could openly discuss and in the discussion the "truth" would come out. And even though we may not be able to change who we are...we could understand how each of us is as much of the problem as the ones we seek to control.... the world would be full of overmen in the sense we would recognize the greatness in our counterpart as well as the weakness....and thus we could see the same in ourselves. There would be a new open discussion about how the law works and why it is designed to make us forget about honor and justice.
What I am talking about is very complicated And I don't really have the ability to word it in the way it needs to be worded. Suffice to say, I think the law has made it impossible for us to be good...in a apriori way...at the same time psychology has enhanced that foreign thought of topsy turvy goodness...that the law has enabled in man....and has made it undesirable to think outside of the axiom we were taught by society...lest we look naive or insane or dangerous! Like the worst thing you can have done to you is for someone to pull the wool over your eyes or ask a simple question about exsistence!
It is in that respect that psychology forces you to stay one step ahead of the "one who would take advantage of you!" Psychology tells you how to spot who is to blame for all the horrible things that happened to you and how to spot them in the future so you can kill them dead in their tracks if they try it again! Psychology has taught us that we are fools and should be on guard with everyone lest we become a victim over and over! Psychology has us all paranoid. It is to the point you can't even give someone a compliment without them becoming suspicious of your motives....Amateur psychologist every last one of us! And then the law...omg...don't even get me started on the law! LOL
L:But, we should really move this to another thread, but then the motion might be effected.
AS: Okay lets....wanna discuss purity of heart? I will even go back and find all the quotes! LOL I mean to show you where he indeed says verbatim that he asks his readers, "what are your thoughts?"...he definitely wants to know...he even says something like..."and even if you dear reader came up to me and showed me where I am wrong...I would not believe you!"
Plus...remember in the last part of fear and trembling when he talks about Heraclitus? He says something like, "Poor Heraclitus to have said, 'you can't step into the same river twice' and then to have one of his students out do him and say, "You can't even step in the same river once!" LOL I got a kick out of that....that was K's humor telling us to out do him...challenging us to go beyond...and yes...even asking us to tell him our thoughts...so that he can do some more philosophy and argue with us....gawd I love that man. Oh the fights we would have had...but the fucker had to die! Men!
I'm not gone, and thanks much for your support. Actually I was just gone temporarily, caught up in a TV series marathon, Kim can't hurt me, really. I put things out there about me for people to see so as to better understand my position. There is much to be learned from my life, that others may be unaware of.reasonvemotion wrote:No AS you dont have the ability.What I am talking about is very complicated And I don't really have the ability to word it in the way it needs to be worded
SoB was systematically targeted and then a brutal attempt to destroy and humiliate him took place.
He has much to contribute to this forum and in an interesting and unique way. I do hope he returns.
What a fool you are. I have only one logon, and I know, of no one here, outside of here, and only speak to those that are here, via here.chaz wyman wrote:Sock puppet alert !!!reasonvemotion wrote:No AS you dont have the ability.What I am talking about is very complicated And I don't really have the ability to word it in the way it needs to be worded
SoB was systematically targeted and then a brutal attempt to destroy and humiliate him took place.
He has much to contribute to this forum and in an interesting and unique way. I do hope he returns.
Its not a complain, though your assertion that 'losers always resort..." is false.SpheresOfBalance wrote:SpheresOfBalance wrote: That's right, ****!Losers always resort to complaining about spelling and grammar, as only the point matters, what a thin veil you hide behind.chaz wyman wrote:
You might want to check your grammar.
At least you acknowledge yourself as a Freak.- An appellation I would not apply to myself.
Amod doesn't have to answer to you, as they are a part of them that runs the show, and in all honesty probably keeps an eye on me, because some of the things that I say, tends to be borderline. I see that only truth matters, and as such I say whatever it is that I believe has an element of truth no matter how unpopular. And much of what I say, I have found, that many, like to read into it and make more of it than it is. All my commentary is about pointedness, so as to speak, so as to illuminate the nature of things. For instance my closeness to once working with Nuclear Warheads and the lessons learned as to MAD, might scare the crap out of some, especially with respect to some other things I say. But I assure everyone, that I love everyone, though I can be extremely pissed at anyone, I know that no one really knows, to the fullest extent, of what they do, which is why I speak as I do, to try and illuminate those things that we all really need to see, if only maybe through me, but I am no one special, no more or less than anyone else.!chaz wyman wrote:You seem pretty keen on this topic. Why is that?AMod wrote:chaz wyman,chaz wyman wrote: Sock puppet alert !!!
Please do not make these accusations when there is no evidence for them.
AMod
I just found it amusing that in the cut and thrust of the day to day back-biting in the Forum that someone wanted to pour devotion onto another. Sock puppet or not I find it puzzling why you tend to remain silent and then any suggestion of a false attribution of a multiple identity then out you come to deny it?!?!?!
Why the interest?
But this is no reason to then say that someone is less than you simply because they do things differently. You speak of my abilities as if they are measured by your yardstick. I assure you that I am fully capable of sensing the truth when I come upon it, and I see the section that I outlined (T A-C 2), taken at face value, as evil, pure and simple, as I see that it negates N's very existence, as he was weak. What else is contained in a word other than it's meaning?artisticsolution wrote:I haven't been around for awhile so I am not aware that he left. (I do hope he returns....I too think he contributed much to the forum). But you and I see this subject totally differently. I don't believe SOB is as fragile as you seem to think. I think he is able to make an argument with the best of them. I don't see him as a victim type of person who gets offended easily. But I am aware I could be wrong...so for that I apologize to him if I in any way acted as if was making a "brutal attempt to destroy and humiliate him". My intention was not to humiliate but only to understand his point of view that keeps him from delving into a deeper meaning instead of just being satisfied with a first impression of an author. I have never been able to understand that mindset as I never understood what is wrong with asking "what if".reasonvemotion wrote:
SoB was systematically targeted and then a brutal attempt to destroy and humiliate him took place.
He has much to contribute to this forum and in an interesting and unique way. I do hope he returns.
Lancek4, I thought you were my friend, Oh that's right you don't have any, and after all that time we spent in the truth thread, anyway, leave her alone, you're just jealous because she's not lovin' on you, I need all the lovin' I can get, trust me! I just really need to be more capable of outwardly giving it, and thus becoming a better person that actively displays such niceties; I'm trying!lancek4 wrote:Yes he does. And it sounds like a conspiracy. And reasonemo : that's redic-elikliklioulous. Grow some skin. Sob is a big boy and can hold his own and yes sometimes people get stupid and brazen it seems.reasonvemotion wrote:No AS you dont have the ability.What I am talking about is very complicated And I don't really have the ability to word it in the way it needs to be worded
SoB was systematically targeted and then a brutal attempt to destroy and humiliate him took place.
He has much to contribute to this forum and in an interesting and unique way. I do hope he returns.
Systematically targeted. Omg.
You are the absolute king of insults, you and I both know it! so get off your high horse of deception and lies, and be a man, that's not afraid of his own shadow, for a change.chaz wyman wrote:reasonvemotion wrote:
SoB was systematically targeted and then a brutal attempt to destroy and humiliate him took place.
He has much to contribute to this forum and in an interesting and unique way. I do hope he returns.
He has dished out far more than he has received I can assure you.
He has contributed more insults than many.
Yeah, but you're sharp enough to know what I meant, and you know it!chaz wyman wrote:Its not a complain, though your assertion that 'losers always resort..." is false.SpheresOfBalance wrote:SpheresOfBalance wrote: That's right, ****!Losers always resort to complaining about spelling and grammar, as only the point matters, what a thin veil you hide behind.chaz wyman wrote:
You might want to check your grammar.
At least you acknowledge yourself as a Freak.- An appellation I would not apply to myself.
I was just inviting you to re-consider your grammar as you failed to convey meaning.