Now, taking that into account, henry, read the two OPs again.
I did. This...
Can I know objectively who I am?
No, I don't think so.
Identity is ever constructed, deconstructed and reconstructed over the years by hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of variables---some of which we had/have no choice/control regarding. We really are "thrown" into a fortuitous smorgasbord of demographic factors at birth and then molded and manipulated as children into whatever configuration of "reality" suits the cultural [and political] institutions of our time.
...still seems, to me, just an awfully wordy way of sayin'
the individual is nuthin' more than the product of experience. Swap out experiences: you'd have a new man.
And this...
given all of the different worlds that any particular individual might fortuitously be born and raised in historically, culturally and experientially, their experiences [as children and as adults] can be vastly different from others. Such that what they come to believe about things like abortion and guns and transgender folks can be widely divergent in turn.
...doesn't help to change my mind.
Oh, and don't forget to remind yourself of the extent to which the OP here...is applicable to those like you.
We did this already. My responses disappointed you. I kept rejectin' your assumptions (indoctrination, conformity, proselytization, jihad).
The individual is not a meat machine.
No, henry, it's not a self-delusion.
I'm sorry, i can't conclude that you see it otherwise.
in dozens and dozens of ways there is a real me: my age, my height, my weight, my residence, my past experiences, the people around me, the things I do from day to day, the world of nature.
In other words:
I am a product, a kludge. These facts comprise me, these facts aren't about me.
But in regard to my value judgments what is the real me?
As I say:
you don't actually believe there is a real you; the real you is just a construct. And how can you view yourself otherwise? You lean toward determinism, lean toward the idea man is a meat machine. It makes perfect sense you'd see yourself as a product and nuthin' more. Question is: why don't you just commit to the position you seem to find most plausible (determinism/materialism)?
Given the points I raise in the OPs above? What is your real me there?
We did this already. My responses disappointed you. I kept rejectin' your assumptions (indoctrination, conformity, proselytization, jihad).
I'm not a meat machine. And, yes, you'll want evidence. I did that already too. However, as you like, you can refer to my
article of the day (post 'em when you find 'em) thread. Not everything there is evidence, but some pieces are. We can, if you read some of those relevant pieces, discuss them.
I just can't help but to suspect a..."condition"?
And what might
that be? Me, I say it's just good, old-fashioned eleutheromania. A
professional might say I'm
oppositional. Popeye sez I'm just a
reactive creature. What say you?
I wish he would note his own existential trajectory over the years. As I did above. The personal experiences he had, the people he knew, the stuff he read, etc., contributing to his own set of political prejudices.
To the extent I found, find, it necessary: I've done, do, that. I'm not, however,
fractured, so I suffer no compulsion to lay out for inspection my facts (which are about me, but are not me).
How are they not rooted in dasein as I understand it?
Your dasein (concisely: the individual is a product) is a false doctrine.
