Well again, what you call "the Leftist press" is relative to your own political view. My primary sources of news are the BBC, the Times and the Guardian. Certainly the Guardian is left of centre, but all three seem trustworthy to me. What do your sources say to suggest I am being misled?
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That’s it?!Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pm My primary sources of news are the BBC, the Times and the Guardian.
That explains a great deal.
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Gus, you understand what primary means, right?Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:24 pmThat’s it?!Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pm My primary sources of news are the BBC, the Times and the Guardian.
That explains a great deal.
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Really? Primary?Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:32 pmGus, you understand what primary means, right?Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:24 pmThat’s it?!Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pm My primary sources of news are the BBC, the Times and the Guardian.
That explains a great deal.
I'd suggest getting outside of your comfort zone such as Mahya Tousi:- https://youtube.com/@mahyartousitv?si=enJu9S8qRWzB-_2F
Actual people wothy of the title of "journalism" that comprehend what people on the streets of England deserve...TRUTH.
(Let's not forget how awesome BBC were with Saville).
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But Jimmy Saville was just doing what all men secretly want to do (according to you). Funny how they are all so self-righteous now. The man was clearly a creep that even creeps would find creepy. What is wrong with you poms? You have the worst taste in 'celebrities' on the planet. They worshipped the ground this creature walked on.attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:48 pmReally? Primary?
I'd suggest getting outside of your comfort zone such as Mahya Tousi:- https://youtube.com/@mahyartousitv?si=enJu9S8qRWzB-_2F
Actual people wothy of the title of "journalism" that comprehend what people on the streets of England deserve...TRUTH.
(Let's not forget how awesome BBC were with Saville).

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The Archimedean Point is not available. Its rooms are all booked by self-confident Modernists. You'll have to wait elsewhere.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pm The view I take is one of choosing distance from the narrative wars, as if a position above the fray and looking down on it all.
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No. Only "relative" to what they used to be, what they themselves professed to be the reasonable center, until they abandoned it a few years ago.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pmWell again, what you call "the Leftist press" is relative to your own political view.
You have selected the major media, which used to be regarded as impartial, but have been exposed as ideologically coded with the dominant narratives of the ruling elite lately. Examples abound, including practically all their coverage of things like the elections, the demonstrations, the COVID 'crisis,' and the Ukraine and Gaza wars. They're shilling for their masters.My primary sources of news are the BBC, the Times and the Guardian.
I think that if you examine them, you will find that you will not be told the truth by these sources. But to our good fortune, the legacy media is all in a death-spiral right now, as a crisis of public confidence in their reliability is upon them. We will soon find that they will collapse financially, or at least be so thoroughly rejected as a source of public information that they will no longer retain their utility to the powers that be. And that, as it turns out, will be a very good thing. It's past time that the monopoly on information they used to hold was broken.
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RE: BBC - -- for years a friend of mine was telling me how biased they were reporting.
I always believed the BBC was the pinnacle of impartial reporting in UK...until simply because Tommy Robinson led a horde of patriotic British people, showing their patriotism with the Union Flag, English Flag, Welsh Flag, Scottish Flag....all types ot people and ethnicities that still BELIEVE in British Culture rather than replacing it.
WHEN. (after watching the live stream until 3am my time)
I saw how that was reported as "FAR RIGHT HOOLIGANS & THUGS." ---> I NO LONGER HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR BBC OR ANY MAINSTREAM MEDIA
..It was simply BRITISH people being patriotic.
I always believed the BBC was the pinnacle of impartial reporting in UK...until simply because Tommy Robinson led a horde of patriotic British people, showing their patriotism with the Union Flag, English Flag, Welsh Flag, Scottish Flag....all types ot people and ethnicities that still BELIEVE in British Culture rather than replacing it.
WHEN. (after watching the live stream until 3am my time)
I saw how that was reported as "FAR RIGHT HOOLIGANS & THUGS." ---> I NO LONGER HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR BBC OR ANY MAINSTREAM MEDIA
..It was simply BRITISH people being patriotic.
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In short, the "major media" is biased because it doesn't say what you would prefer it to.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:12 pmNo. Only "relative" to what they used to be, what they themselves professed to be the reasonable center, until they abandoned it a few years ago.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pmWell again, what you call "the Leftist press" is relative to your own political view.
You have selected the major media, which used to be regarded as impartial, but have been exposed as ideologically coded with the dominant narratives of the ruling elite lately. Examples abound, including practically all their coverage of things like the elections, the demonstrations, the COVID 'crisis,' and the Ukraine and Gaza wars. They're shilling for their masters.My primary sources of news are the BBC, the Times and the Guardian.
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Precisely Harbal - AS SOON as the ""right"" of politics have something to say - ITS FAR RIGHT\FASCIST\RACIST etc... not patriotic British people- ya know just normal British people that have a concern that MASS migration via uncontrolled borders might cause a problem..
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I guess it's "biased" because it doesn't put minorities in our proper place, one of being ridiculed and marginalized.Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:39 pmIn short, the "major media" is biased because it doesn't say what you would prefer it to.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:12 pmNo. Only "relative" to what they used to be, what they themselves professed to be the reasonable center, until they abandoned it a few years ago.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pm
Well again, what you call "the Leftist press" is relative to your own political view.
You have selected the major media, which used to be regarded as impartial, but have been exposed as ideologically coded with the dominant narratives of the ruling elite lately. Examples abound, including practically all their coverage of things like the elections, the demonstrations, the COVID 'crisis,' and the Ukraine and Gaza wars. They're shilling for their masters.My primary sources of news are the BBC, the Times and the Guardian.
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Are you Kathy Newman?Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:39 pmIn short, the "major media" is biased because it doesn't say what you would prefer it to.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:12 pmNo. Only "relative" to what they used to be, what they themselves professed to be the reasonable center, until they abandoned it a few years ago.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pm
Well again, what you call "the Leftist press" is relative to your own political view.
You have selected the major media, which used to be regarded as impartial, but have been exposed as ideologically coded with the dominant narratives of the ruling elite lately. Examples abound, including practically all their coverage of things like the elections, the demonstrations, the COVID 'crisis,' and the Ukraine and Gaza wars. They're shilling for their masters.My primary sources of news are the BBC, the Times and the Guardian.
No, I said no such thing. You'll have to go back and read more carefully.
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It's biased because IT IS REPORTED INACCURATELYGary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:47 pm I guess it's "biased" because it doesn't put minorities in our proper place, one of being ridiculed and marginalized.
Grandma reports on NEWSPAPER version of BRITISH 1st JUNE MARCH
https://youtu.be/gp6wFEW9QkA
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My reading between the lines is very careful.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:49 pmAre you Kathy Newman?Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:39 pmIn short, the "major media" is biased because it doesn't say what you would prefer it to.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:12 pm No. Only "relative" to what they used to be, what they themselves professed to be the reasonable center, until they abandoned it a few years ago.
You have selected the major media, which used to be regarded as impartial, but have been exposed as ideologically coded with the dominant narratives of the ruling elite lately. Examples abound, including practically all their coverage of things like the elections, the demonstrations, the COVID 'crisis,' and the Ukraine and Gaza wars. They're shilling for their masters."...so you're saying..."
No, I said no such thing. You'll have to go back and read more carefully.
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Not as good as you hope, evidently.Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:20 pmMy reading between the lines is very careful.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:49 pmAre you Kathy Newman?"...so you're saying..."
No, I said no such thing. You'll have to go back and read more carefully.