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Re: Trump
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:26 pm
by mickthinks
No, the Republican Party has become the ultimate shit show, but American politics isn't a lost cause yet.
Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:28 am
by Gary Childress
mickthinks wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:26 pm
No, the Republican Party has become the ultimate shit show, but American politics isn't a lost cause yet.
You're probably right. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I just thought it sounded profound.
Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:22 am
by seeds
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Trump Loves Dictators...
https://youtu.be/mj5D7g6z32k?t=17
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Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:55 am
by commonsense
Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:56 am
On the contrary, Sculptor. The POTUS is the final arbiter of what is classified, and what is not classified.
Final arbiter isn’t the same thing as only arbiter. Final means there are other arbiters that must play a role in an established process.
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:05 am
by Walker
Trump eclipses the sun, yet again.
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:35 am
by Walker
commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:55 am
Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:56 am
On the contrary, Sculptor. The POTUS is the final arbiter of what is classified, and what is not classified.
Final arbiter isn’t the same thing as only arbiter. Final means there are other arbiters that must play a role in an established process.
Interesting. When Lincoln took office he fired the entrenched support staff, and after that the rules were changed in favour of the support staff. That may be when the tail really began to wag the dog. Today, the constitutional dog appears to be just the support staff wagging around for the whims of the mighty tail.
Trump announced awhile back that he has plans to work around those old rules that have made the Deep State what it is today, protected from the likes of Lincoln, in The Post-Constitutional Republic of USA, USA, USA.
Trump hasn't mentioned it since, or if he has it hasn't received much attention.
But they remember, and they are afraid.
And the president is the final arbiter, no matter what the support staff thinks, no matter how many times the law is broken in favour of the wrong premise, the wrong premise being that the president is not the final arbiter, no matter how much the deep state has whittled around the edges to increase its own power.
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:28 am
by mickthinks
Walker is wrong about everything. But what do you expect from someone in St Petersburg working for the Putin-MAGA nexus?
Trump announced awhile back that he has plans to work around those old rules that have made the Deep State what it is today…
When MAGA complains about the deep state they mean democratic checks and balances. That is, the things that prevent an authoritarian from seizing absolute power and becoming a dictator.
Of course Trump is planning to do away with all of it!
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:05 pm
by Flannel Jesus
Walker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:05 am
Trump eclipses the sun, yet again.
So like... he's bringing in an era of darkness? Is that the message?
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:06 pm
by Flannel Jesus
mickthinks wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:28 am
When MAGA complains about the deep state they mean democratic checks and balances. That is, the things that prevent an authoritarian from seizing absolute power and becoming a dictator.
That's a really interesting interpretation, and I'm annoyed I haven't heard it before.
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:17 pm
by commonsense
Walker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:35 am
commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:55 am
Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:56 am
On the contrary, Sculptor. The POTUS is the final arbiter of what is classified, and what is not classified.
Final arbiter isn’t the same thing as only arbiter. Final means there are other arbiters that must play a role in an established process.
Interesting. When Lincoln took office he fired the entrenched support staff, and after that the rules were changed in favour of the support staff. That may be when the tail really began to wag the dog. Today, the constitutional dog appears to be just the support staff wagging around for the whims of the mighty tail.
Trump announced awhile back that he has plans to work around those old rules that have made the Deep State what it is today, protected from the likes of Lincoln, in The Post-Constitutional Republic of USA, USA, USA.
Trump hasn't mentioned it since, or if he has it hasn't received much attention.
But they remember, and they are afraid.
And the president is the final arbiter, no matter what the support staff thinks, no matter how many times the law is broken in favour of the wrong premise, the wrong premise being that the president is not the final arbiter, no matter how much the deep state has whittled around the edges to increase its own power.
I’ll say this again. The president is the final arbiter only in a long line of a number of arbiters, not least of which are the arbiters in Homeland Security, the CIA, the NSA and the FBI.
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:15 pm
by Walker
Yes, but you tiptoed around implications.
The final arbiter concerning classified documents trumps assistant arbiters, such as those mentioned.
The commander in chief trumps the generals, although there's plenty of grunts around.
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:10 pm
by commonsense
Walker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:15 pm
Yes, but you tiptoed around implications.
The final arbiter concerning classified documents trumps assistant arbiters, such as those mentioned.
The commander in chief trumps the generals, although there's plenty of grunts around.
The CIC is also capable of giving an unlawful order. This is covered in basic military training. The CIC’s order to declassify is void unless the others have done their due diligence. The others are not assistants. They are precursors. Your opinion otherwise does not change the facts about giving arbitration in place of subordinates.
Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:37 pm
by promethean75
And there's nothing I can do
A total eclipse of the Trump
Re: Trump
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:02 pm
by Gary Childress
At this point I'm for anyone who can bring peace. If Trump can have the balls to back down and negotiate with Russia in this game of one upmanship, then I'll take Trump. Otherwise, the whole world seems to be headed for a cliff. I hope there's a God who will save humanity from ourselves.
Re: Trump
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:53 pm
by mickthinks
That’s vacuous, Gary.
