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Satyr wrote:I expect nothing but {?}
warmer..warmer..hot hot hot!? did i find your truth or its degree already? or shall we play more?
good work.

thanks!
sounds like you really live inside your model?
Is that what you understood?
If i was, retard, then you would not be here....and I would not, despite yourself, be making sense to you...even if on a gut level.
are you saying that: in that case, i should not be here. maybe in a average type of retard or rat, but not in a living person and human being like you? and you would not be making sense to me, to my idiot mind? so, is it so?
I don't know what gods I have, woman, but you must see them everywhere.
My models live or die by their merit. If they have no reference to your world, as you perceive it, then let them go, discard them and fuck off.
surely you have word "gods"? and many other words, i hope so. is your "merit" replacing the "gods" in your meaning and vision of "world"?
"Did you not present the indirect repercussions of your attitudes,a s these are induced upon you, due to your own world view?"
did i? do you see so trough your model?
"Idiot...who here does not offer a world-view, a model, even if most, the vast majority offer an other's in place of their own?"
who does? you?
"Must we ask these stupid questions, or is this your idea of intellectualism and openness?"
does it look like so? why is that? tell me more.
Idiot, just asking the "right" questions does not make you smart.

like smart ass?
? wrote: He called himself one, for some reason, but was he?

good question. can we believe him? should we read him?
Reread Nietzsche, keeping in mind that he is not talking to imbeciles, like you, directly, but he is talking over your heads, and you might gain an added appreciation of his genius.

how you know that? did he said so? did you believe him?
i am testing your type, which you represent brilliantly.
When a scientists uses a rat for his experiments, the rat itself, is irrelevant, it is its type which he is testing.
If the rat proves to be average, then this is all which is analyzed.

does it look like that?
How do we evaluate which perspective is more or less likely to be closer to a more precise understanding of a dynamic world?
shit, that you ask me this after all that was said makes me become more convinced that this is wasted time.

Short...pragmatism...the details I've already posted.

shortly, are you talking to yourself? or to your straw man about your own words in my mouth?
pragmatism sounds like one ism? like surrealism or dadaism? still, nice word!
Why do you not tell me?
what do you want to know?
You actually asked the question that lead to this unnecessary analysis?
Yes...perhaps taking you seriously was an error...a small one.
are you shooting the messenger?
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? wrote:
Satyr wrote:I expect nothing but {?}
warmer..warmer..hot hot hot!? did i find your truth or its degree already? or shall we play more?
Oh sweetie, do you present your feigned humility as a sign of your wisdom, you superior intellect. Are you my little Socrates?

There is no "warmer" moron, I already know what you are all about.
I've been playing all along.
? wrote:are you saying that: in that case, i should not be here. maybe in a average type of retard or rat, but not in a living person and human being like you? and you would not be making sense to me, to my idiot mind? so, is it so?
See?
Already you are admitting that you have no clue about what is being said?

But your Christian "humility" prevents you from taking responsibility, so you prefer to think that I am making no sense.
This flatters you, and is supported by the majority, which simply bolsters your inferiority with a hypothesis that twists it into a superiority.

Yet...still....here you are....and that thorn in your mind's eye keeps on reminding you that there is something here....but you just can't place your finger on it.

Girl, I've been playing all along.
? wrote:surely you have word "gods"?
I have tools; metaphors, symbols, allegories, art, specimens....I leave the worshiping to you, sweetie.
If you ask enough questions you might hit on something.
? wrote: and many other words, i hope so. is your "merit" replacing the "gods" in your meaning and vision of "world"?
Should I discard my pride and rip my ego apart to meet you on your presumptuous level, sweetie?
Should I castrate myself, and amputate my limbs and decapitate my dignity, to meet you down there, in mediocrity...on your even playing field, in your ideal paradise, world?
? wrote:did i? do you see so trough your model?
What I see need not concern you, for we are playing.
All you need to know is that you see "through my model", or you think and feel that you do.
? wrote:who does? you?
Who's on second, and what's or third?
God knows might be on first.
? wrote:does it look like so? why is that? tell me more.
Mmmm, I love the defensiveness....that twist of ego trying to save itself.
Tell you more what?

This is a game...you ask i respond....since you have nothing to say, but much to imply.
Implying is safe...it can be denied, whatever this is and what is implied.

Women are lovely.
? wrote:like smart ass?
Was the a self assessment?
I would take away the "smart" in that case, leaving you with your only source of value.
? wrote:good question. can we believe him? should we read him?
No...and no....
? wrote:how you know that? did he said so? did you believe him?
I felt it in my groin, and no, I agreed with him.
? wrote:does it look like that?
Does it?

Now THIS is philosophy...now!!!!!
? wrote:shortly, are you talking to yourself? or to your straw man about your own words in my mouth?
Am I?
Who is this man you speak of and are dependent upon?
? wrote:pragmatism sounds like one ism? like surrealism or dadaism? still, nice word!
It is...like straw and man.
? wrote:what do you want to know?
Know what?
? wrote:are you shooting the messenger?
Do you have a message?

You know in time even your stupidity and childishness will grow tiresome.
I give you this future victory.
You will need it.
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Satyr wrote:Are you my little Socrates?

who is this socrates? a football player? dog name?
so you prefer to think that I am making no sense.
i noticed that you said something and told the opposite?
I have tools; metaphors, symbols, allegories, art, specimens....I leave the worshiping to you, sweetie.
If you ask enough questions you might hit on something.

so, you use the same words than the worshipers and the others, different ways? whats the big difference?
Should I discard my pride and rip my ego apart to meet you on your presumptuous level, sweetie?
Should I castrate myself, and amputate my limbs and decapitate my dignity, to meet you down there, in mediocrity...on your even playing field, in your ideal paradise, world?

or should you just write some words down here? do you have writing rituals too? i need a bottle of whiskey for a start. make it two.
you see "through my model", or you think and feel that you do.

i see, seems like i see what you have written down here? lets talk about some more about these "my model" that "you see", shall we?
Do you have a message?

can messengers message be like?: do you need help? or should it be like?: you need help!

ps. i think we are doing just fine. better and better every day. found the trench line intact. there seems to be this situation going on: coherent intact views of others and yours, from your point of view?
it is very interesting situation, if there is at least two man and both can see so clearly how they cant show the right picture to the other, until the other somehow and finally starts to see like the other. seems like they both have seen the same, so differently and still, so much better than the other. and they see and feel it so clear. they truly believe what they see and the other not. both of them. quite a funny situation? is there anything like that going on somewhere?
-there is no god you delusional old fart!
-god will hear that and you go to hell!
- i dont believe that shit!
- i believe! you are truly godless!
- yes i am! i believe in pragmatism and empiricism!
- those are gods creations like we are! and science. so that we see gods miracles better and better every day!
-should we continue like this?
- yes please, i like to shout!
- you want to shout it to the world wide web? sounds like some one is in love!
- make it two! the love of wisdom!
-oh my god..
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? wrote:who is this socrates? a football player? dog name?
Chess?
? wrote: i noticed that you said something and told the opposite?
Did you?
? wrote: so, you use the same words than the worshipers and the others, different ways? whats the big difference?
Do I worship something?
? wrote: or should you just write some words down here? do you have writing rituals too? i need a bottle of whiskey for a start. make it two.
Vodka?
? wrote: Shall we?
We?
? wrote: can messengers message be like?: do you need help? or should it be like?: you need help!
Is it a hope?
You need help!
? wrote:ps. i think we are doing just fine. better and better every day. found the trench line intact. there seems to be this situation going on: coherent intact views of others and yours, from your point of view?
Why thank you...well, you follow that trench.
? wrote: it is very interesting situation, if there is at least two man and both can see so clearly how they cant show the right picture to the other, until the other somehow and finally starts to see like the other.
Shall I get the spoon?
? wrote: seems like they both have seen the same, so differently and still, so much better than the other. and they see and feel it so clear. they truly believe what they see and the other not. both of them. quite a funny situation? is there anything like that going on somewhere?
Still missing the point?

The word "funny" always comes about.
Please keep leading me down that trench.
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Satyr wrote:Do I worship something?
do you believe that worship is the big difference?
Still missing the point?
who? what point? do you mean that i too have a model, where those two man with their models exist? maybe i was just trying to picture the the situation that you seem to have picturing here? situation where we have some kind of models and others are better than others models? in another words, i tried your tools to make something, funny or not? so, why you say that your tools are mine? "models" or "views" or what you called them? i think that those are from your imagination, not mine?
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? wrote: do you believe that worship is the big difference?
Did I bring it up?
But no response, huh?
What do I worship?
Define "big".
? wrote:who?
He's on first.
? wrote:what point?
What's on second.
? wrote:do you mean that i too have a model, where those two man with their models exist?
What two men?
Should have I said a billion men...and spent pages writing to a retard?
? wrote: maybe i was just trying to picture the the situation that you seem to have picturing here?
"Trying" is a good word...and "maybe" is an even better one.
Never actually say something...you might expose yourself, and that will ruin your high.
? wrote: situation where we have some kind of models and others are better than others models? in another words, i tried your tools to make something, funny or not?
Again "try" is a good word...it denotes a motive.

Sometimes a child tries to annoy its parent. It's motive is to annoy....but not the dominant motive.
? wrote:so, why you say that your tools are mine?
Why do you say that I said that?

When you say "mine" what do you mean?
? wrote: "models" or "views" or what you called them? i think that those are from your imagination, not mine?
And here you are.
Do you see me?
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Satyr wrote: Never actually say something...you might expose yourself, and that will ruin your high.
if you are writing many posts about your writings somewhere in the internet and sharing links to them so that we can read them, and if you are talking about your writings and how they are better than others and calling others retards - would you read some questions from other people about your writings? why cant i only ask questions, why do i have to have something to argue? are questions some kind of problem to you? why you need me actually to say something? what if i am only interested about what others have said? what if they are wiser than me? why you see only hiding maneuvers and defensive tactics all around you? are you constantly scared about something yourself? have you tried your postings, full of words like "delusional", in psychology now-forum?
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? wrote:
Satyr wrote: Never actually say something...you might expose yourself, and that will ruin your high.
if you are writing many posts about your writings somewhere in the internet and sharing links to them so that we can read them, and if you are talking about your writings and how they are better than others and calling others retards - would you read some questions from other people about your writings?
I post to express my views.
I post to test my views. I post to flaunt my views. I post to attract others to my views.
When faced with retards, I adapt accordingly.

What have you asked which was about the ideas rather than me, and how many times do you think it is appropriate to answer the same questions, asked in the same way, from the same simplistic vantage point?
? wrote:why cant i only ask questions, why do i have to have something to argue?
You can do as you like...and I can respond to it as I like...where do you see a problem dear?
You have nothing to say, but you keep it to yourself because ...well let me not say more.
? wrote:are questions some kind of problem to you?
Stupid ones that have nothing to do with the subject do...but I get over it and I adapt.
See me adapting?
? wrote:why you need me actually to say something?
I don't need anything from you.
I want you to be just as you are.
A question is usually a sing of a need.
? wrote:what if i am only interested about what others have said?
What if?
Rhetorical.
? wrote:what if they are wiser than me?
What if?
But why are you so humble? We both know you are playing with me.
? wrote:why you see only hiding maneuvers and defensive tactics all around you?
Do I?
Was that a defensive tactic...because you are about to pretend you are fearless.

Do you know what domestication does to a mind?
? wrote:are you constantly scared about something yourself?
Yes.
? wrote:have you tried your postings, full of words like "delusional", in psychology now-forum?
Have I?

I don't think I've wasted my time here.
This place is my fish-tank.
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Satyr wrote: What have you asked which was about the ideas rather than me,
like this ones? i try not to. even if there would be like 99% about the real matter.
and how many times do you think it is appropriate to answer the same questions, asked in the same way, from the same simplistic vantage point?
what if you are not talking with the fishes? what if thats the point? what if you are not finding out why its happening all the time? what if you see it only that way?
What if?
Rhetorical.
really? do you believe so?
What if?
But why are you so humble? We both know you are playing with me.

do we? do you believe so? could repeated word "believe" be a big clue/lead/hint to a philosopher? like 2000 years old question itself or more?
This place is my fish-tank.
could that be limiting your expectations and efforts to think?
do you see these questions like philosophical or psychological or what, in this forum? what is this forums context, a fish tank maintenance, decorations and feeding?
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? wrote:what if you are not talking with the fishes? what if thats the point? what if you are not finding out why its happening all the time? what if you see it only that way?
What if.

Consciousness is about constant updating, little girl.
Did you not get a thing?
Reality is fluid, consciousness tries to keep up.
? wrote:really? do you believe so?
What if?
? wrote:do we? do you believe so? could repeated word "believe" be a big clue/lead/hint to a philosopher? like 2000 years old question itself or more?
Oh dear girl, you offer scraps of bread as if they were morsels of meat.

Dear woman, belief is a word denoting conviction.
What do you think interpretations or those mental models are, woman?
Have you understood a single, fuckin' thing, that has been said thus far?
see this is what really pisses me off: a stupid idiot comes here all huffing and puffing, because she thinks she knows something I do not see...in the end what does she offer, these hints, but exactly what I was saying all along.
She uses a different word, and THIS she thinks constitutes her "insight".

Dear woman, what is belief, if not a perspective one has confidence is superior than another?
What is truth, you moron, but a word describing this conviction?

No conviction, no judgment, no such thing as "truth"...no such thing as "truth" outside the mind.
Reality, yes...the world yes....Reality, the world, is always independent from all interpretation of it, but truth,m you imbecile, is a judgment...it is a name given to a judgment.

Belief is a judgment call, you pathetic fuck.

Stop wasting my time.
? wrote:could that be limiting your expectations and efforts to think?
Not unless I take you and your ilk seriously, woman.

Even so, I eventually disappear....as I am close to doing right now.
One can take stupidity only for so long.
? wrote:do you see these questions like philosophical or psychological or what, in this forum?
very few judgments concerning the world posted in this forum interest me.
What interests me is the social group dynamics.
Your views are inconsequential, mostly because they are simplistic and dull.

Your behaviors, and how they play out through your views, is what fascinates me...and not because I consider your kind interesting, but because you are a vast and increasing majority....you are the popular environment, when nature and all else has been pushed back and buried in artificiality.
Very little mountain and wood and deer and lion and dolphin...but a whole lot of cables and cars and buildings and myriads of humans, 99% of which are dumb as hamsters.

I study your kind out of necessity...as a hunter would his prey or a farmer his herd or his plants.
? wrote:what is this forums context, a fish tank maintenance, decorations and feeding?
All of the above.
All resources are a means to an end.

You are a necessary and ubiquitous means, my ends are my own business.
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i have found my kitchen psychology so tasteless that i like to keep doing some philosophy instead:
Satyr wrote:What if.
maybe one day i try again some psychological science at my home? i have ridiculous couch already!
Consciousness is about constant updating, little girl.
Did you not get a thing?
Reality is fluid, consciousness tries to keep up.

do you believe so? what if not? did i not get the bible too?
What if?
earth is center of the gods universe? crazy to even think other way? bigger fishes will eat heretical ones outside the flock of fishes?
Oh dear girl, you offer scraps of bread as if they were morsels of meat.

tasty words? have you heard that modern science started to flourish when it started to question smaller question? and started to get bigger answers? bigger words?
Dear woman, belief is a word denoting conviction.
What do you think interpretations or those mental models are, woman?
Have you understood a single, fuckin' thing, that has been said thus far?
sounds like presumptions? or a coherent self-fulfilling prophecies?
the more i hear, the more i have questions?

see this is what really pisses me off: a stupid idiot comes here all huffing and puffing, because she thinks she knows something I do not see...in the end what does she offer, these hints, but exactly what I was saying all along.
She uses a different word, and THIS she thinks constitutes her "insight".
is she your patient in your psychological clinic for ladies? using common words? a case study, filed in i like idiots?
Dear woman, what is belief, if not a perspective one has confidence is superior than another?
What is truth, you moron, but a word describing this conviction?

maybe in psychology but in philosophy there seems to be lots of other truths, books and questionings about those you see that way like your own eyes?
No conviction, no judgment, no such thing as "truth"...no such thing as "truth" outside the mind.
Reality, yes...the world yes....Reality, the world, is always independent from all interpretation of it, but truth,m you imbecile, is a judgment...it is a name given to a judgment.
Belief is a judgment call, you pathetic fuck.
Stop wasting my time.

i see that you keep repeating the same seeings you have seen? no change in your views? any fluidity or what ever in that same river? have you tried some philosophy instead? any new books from nietzche or ancient geeks? sorry, greeks? i give you two more years if you quit smoking. big cigars doesnt count.
One can take stupidity only for so long.

it helps if you rise your nose up more?
very few judgments concerning the world posted in this forum interest me.
What interests me is the social group dynamics.
Your views are inconsequential, mostly because they are simplistic and dull.
Your behaviors, and how they play out through your views, is what fascinates me...and not because I consider your kind interesting, but because you are a vast and increasing majority....you are the popular environment, when nature and all else has been pushed back and buried in artificiality.
Very little mountain and wood and deer and lion and dolphin...but a whole lot of cables and cars and buildings and myriads of humans, 99% of which are dumb as hamsters.
I study your kind out of necessity...as a hunter would his prey or a farmer his herd or his plants.
should you be lying in the couch now? do i have to wave the clock or write or draw or something down?
All of the above.
outside your mind? have you heard that there are lots of isms? like that solipsism? is your solipsism dead yet like nietzches god? what isms do you favor and is that fair or some kind of favoritism?
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? wrote:maybe one day i try again some psychological science at my home? i have ridiculous couch already!
No, I think you should leave that to the experts, dear....they do the thinking for ya.

I often go to the supermarket, and unless I do not have a biochemist or an expert in produce to tell me what looks like an orange and which one is ripe.
Yesterday morning I saw a bright sphere in the horizon, I rushed to the computer and googled an astrophysicist who told me it was the sun.
? wrote: do you believe so?
Of course not.
Still stuck on the word "believe" huh little girl?
? wrote: earth is center of the gods universe? crazy to even think other way? bigger fishes will eat heretical ones outside the flock of fishes?
What if?
? wrote:tasty words? have you heard that modern science started to flourish when it started to question smaller question? and started to get bigger answers? bigger words?
Interesting story, I had no idea.
Did you believe it?

Here's another story: Have you heard that science has reached down to the miniscule and up to the grand, so far that it now resorts to poetics to describe what does not fit into its previous models?
Unless your religion produces a particle, dear, an indivisible one...you know the end to the universe, I'll consider it a metaphor. A useful one, no doubt, and one which is superior to a God, but still... a word, a symbol, representing a generalized simplification.
? wrote:sounds like presumptions? or a coherent self-fulfilling prophecies?
the more i hear, the more i have questions?
That's odd, because the more i see and hear the more I have answers.

You should consider the "self-fulfilling" aspect in regards to yourself.
? wrote:is she your patient in your psychological clinic for ladies? using common words? a case study, filed in i like idiots?
Your penchant to be impressed with big words and credentials is your affair.

If I meet a retard who claims to have a masters in Philosophy and all he says is regurgitated or stupid, then I take my judgment as superior to his paperwork.
You, of course, can seek guidance in an expert...given that you have little judgment of your own and little confidence in it.

But it takes integrity to live with the consequences of your judgment.
? wrote: maybe in psychology but in philosophy there seems to be lots of other truths, books and questionings about those you see that way like your own eyes?
Then you should stay with your proxies. They have on motive and no failings, other than the desire to keep you safe and sound, dear woman.
? wrote: i see that you keep repeating the same seeings you have seen? no change in your views? any fluidity or what ever in that same river? have you tried some philosophy instead? any new books from nietzche or ancient geeks? sorry, greeks? i give you two more years if you quit smoking. big cigars doesnt count.
Dear woman, when I speak of fluidity I do not speak of one where chaos reigns.
If the past disturbs you, you keep to the New Age gurus.

To explain things further would be more wasted time...so I will finish my essay and perhaps you can read the reply there....one day.
Otherwise, you keep flailing along.
Should I change my mind ever day, to meet your stringent standards of open-mindedness, or does patters and intelligent and the insight they offer, have anything to do with this?
I'm sure that amongst other things the ancients had something to say about the oceans which still hold true today and for many million of years to come...but in a billion, in a trillion years?
? wrote:it helps if you rise your nose up more?
Nah, 'cause this tends to make me want to vomit.
I'm feeling the vertigo already...and so this will be my final reply.
? wrote:should you be lying in the couch now? do i have to wave the clock or write or draw or something down?
Oh sweetie, do you think i exclude myself form my views?
Your judgments, either adopted or your own, are yours to live by.
Be happy that they are common and mediocre enough to not cause too much of a stir in the herd.

This is about who is more normal is it not?
And what does your psychology text tell you?
Read it like a devout Christian would scripture: verbatim, true to the word, and never in doubt.

Sing a hymn afterward.
? wrote:outside your mind? have you heard that there are lots of isms? like that solipsism? is your solipsism dead yet like nietzches god? what isms do you favor and is that fair or some kind of favoritism?
As far as I know, solipsism is about living inside your skull, which constant sensual interpretations prevent; Nietzsche was a man...a brilliant and sensitive man; and my only ism, my ideal, is realism....and....the rest is none of your concern.

What a little girl should think about is that all interpretations must refer to phenomena outside the skull otherwise they turn self-referential...like modern cultures do.
This leads to narcissism and schizophrenia///or some variation of the two.
These phenomena and their interactions are called reality....and this constant referencing of them is a constant updating of the mental models in your skull.

And one last thing, little princess...all minds have ideals...as was implied in my essay and in everything I've ever posted...because all awareness is based no projecting.

Whether these projections, these ideals, are sophisticated or not, is what is the question and towards what kind of individual they produce is the better question.

The nuance of the projected absent absolute determines the individual projecting it, and the man striving towards an ideal is defined by the ideal itself, without having to attain it.

For instance a christian striving towards God, his particular brand of God,is defined and shaped by this striving and the particular characteristics this God, this ideal, is given with this projection.
So a man strives towards the ideal so as to deal with the real, which confronts him.

Some added considerations:
The more detached this projected ideal is from the real, the more delusional or solipsistic the mind becomes.
The more attached this ideal is, the more reference points it has to reality, the more realistic it is.
The further ahead, the more ambitious the projected ideal is, the more riskier it is and so all the more importable it is.


Another word for absent absolute is "ideal", retard.
Another word for belief, is conviction, opinion, retard.
Another word for actual is real, you imbecile.
Another word for absolute is perfect, one, God, free, now, here, self, particle, singularity, universe, etc. all human symbols representing the projected absent absolute. Tools, like all language is.
Truth, is a term given to a particular belief, opinion, conviction. It is a judgment concerning the belief itself.
So, if belief is a judgment, then truth is a judgment of the judgment. It has no meaning outside your tiny empty skull.
Another word for dependent is unfree, dimwit.

Language is binary and so it is simplistic as it is simplifying.
It's like trying to paint a sunset with only white and black.
You must use artistry. It requires the same artistry as when using static models and symbols to explain and to express and to define a fluid reality.
Much of language implies the same concept with different symbols and words. Each with a slight variation in mixture, between the binary balances of 1/0, positive/negative, good/bad etc., but still with the same underlying concept in mind.
If I say one and I say God I am refereeing to the same shit, an absence...only in one the anthropomorphic element offers it an image, which makes one feel more intimate with the notion. One is more abstract and so more open to further interpretations - it is more useful. God is too restrictive, too dogmatic, even if just as ambiguous and just as absent.

The differences in the terms is owed to the particular contexts they are used in, to denote the same concept, and the particular hues they invoke.
For example, you stupid fuck, when I say something and when I say nothing, I am using the same concept of thing, only adding a positive or a negative flavor or coming to it from a different direction.
The common term "thing" is another word for absolute.
The flavor a word acquires is not only based on the codified definition but also on the conventional current emotional baggage it sometimes acquires historically or what emotional connections have been made with the term.

I can say race, and immediately the mind of most are flooded with particular sensations and imagery and reactions.
I can say Hitler or Nazi or Stalin or Communist and the same happens. This is domestication at work.
humans are trained with repetition and with reward punishment methods to display a particular behavior at the mere mention of a word or the mere sight of a symbol or an image. This is conditioning. If it persists for generations and breeding is based on it, then we have social engineering, human husbandry, domestication, institutionalization.

Try this, you imbecile...when trying to describe how refined taste leads to a particular demeanor or attitudes towards food and drink or when wanting to describe how a sensitive palate might lead to a more refined sense of taste, use the term discriminate. See how many morons jump up and down and holler like chimps or salivate like when Pavlov rang his bell.

Or instead of saying "I despise you" say "I hate you".

Given that you offer nothing for my efforts, I will bid you a hearty farewell and a guileful...
Ta, Ta,
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Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Post by creativesoul »

Another word for belief, is conviction, opinion, retard.
IFF you're a dumbass hamster running on the wheel.
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