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Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:06 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
Anti-Judaism:
According to Langmuir, it is based on "total or partial opposition to Judaism as a religion—and the total or partial opposition to Jews as adherents of it—by persons who accept a competing system of beliefs and practices and consider certain genuine Judaic beliefs and practices inferior."

As the rejection of a particular way of thinking about God, anti-Judaism is distinct from antisemitism but historically, it has also encouraged the development of racial antisemitism, a racist ideology which was articulated in the 19th century. Some scholars have found intersections between theology and racism and as a result, they have coined the term religious antisemitism.
What most interests me in this (from Wiki) is the part about "the rejection of a particular way of thinking about God".

But I am also interested in this phrase: "total or partial opposition to Judaism as a religion—and the total or partial opposition to Jews as adherents of it—by persons who accept a competing system of beliefs and practices and consider certain genuine Judaic beliefs and practices inferior" except that I want to be able to talk about a position that is anti-Christian for the same, or similar reasons.

These are really topical, interesting, relevant and valid questions to ask. And I assume, and I validate, that anyone, Jew or Gentile, can ask such questions and talk about the issue without being (accused of being) antisemitic in the sense of wishing ill on Jews or seeking to harm them.

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:14 pm
by Walker
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:11 pm Exactly, which is why the sculptors of the world keep desperately trying to concoct conspiracy theories to claim it never happened. David Irving would be proud. What exactly motivates these people? I don't think sculptor is thick, so there is something else going on...
Sculptor was placed into your consciousness by The Powers That Be. His role is much like the spirit of Dada, that is, to present absurdities that offer opportunities for you to hone what you know in a variety of contexts … or else complain, blame God, answer with absurdities, insult ... whatever floats your boat. It takes a degree of ego detachment for him to so knowingly play the fool.

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:19 pm
by accelafine
Sculptor wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:15 pm
accelafine wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:35 am Completely unhinged. :cry:
It was written by a person who knows more about it than you and has taken the trouble to look beyond the MSM versions given to you by the Biden controlled establishement
MSM? What are you? A conspiracy nut? Are you a Holocaust-denier? I mean, how does anyone know that there were extermination camps and gas chambers without actually experiencing them first hand? Why bother studying history or learning anything about the past? Gosh, it's probably all just made up by the 'MSM' that you refer to (whatever that even means). I've never seen a dinosaur either. How do we know the 'MSM' hasn't been pulling our legs all this time with fake bones and fossils? 'Strange' the way you believe anything that fits your agenda, but dismiss actual video evidence, taken by the Hamas psychopaths themselves, boasted about by the Hamas psychopaths themselves, posted online by the Hamas psychopaths themselves, shown to journalists and media people (including one of your probable heroes, Peter Tatchell, who after viewing it changed his stance and called Hamas 'ISIS' and described his utter disgust at what he had seen).....
Your nasty little sour-puss profile pic is certainly fitting.

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:46 pm
by Immanuel Can
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:40 pm So, the question to be asked is: How does one get out from under curses of this sort?
That's very easy. Every Jew and every Christian knows the right answer to that one. It's the very meaning of Yom Kippur.

But as for curses, he who knows the OT knows that Israel was given both blessings and curses, at Mts Ebal and Gerizim. That is because Israel was a privileged and blessed people, intended by God to represent His love and salvation to the nations of the world: as God said to Abraham, "through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed." Not bad news, for us goyim.

But being the recipient of the first blessing, and the rightful testimony to the world, while a privilege, is not a light thing. It comes with a duty to be faithful to that calling. With privilege comes responsibilty And if the nation that ought to represent HaShem abandons its role, then it is equally certain that God will have to demonstrate His displeasure with that choice, so as to keep the way of salvation open not just to the nations, but also to Israel.

That's the whole story of the First Testament. And it's the reason for Israel's troubles...which any fair assessment recognizes as much more grievous and protracted than the suffering of any other nation. But then, they were given a great privilege, a great opportunity and an unequaled moral charge...and they gave it up.

The good news: God is ready to forgive and restore, and longs to do so. But Israel must respond to that offer, and rediscover its commitment to HaShem and to the salvation of the world. As the prophet Zechariah tells us,“And I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and of pleading, so that they will look at Me whom they pierced; and they will mourn for Him, like one mourning for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn." (Zech. 12:10)

It's coming. Count on it.

Merry Christmas. 🎄 And Happy (belated) Hannukah. 🕎

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:33 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
Walker wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:14 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:11 pm Exactly, which is why the sculptors of the world keep desperately trying to concoct conspiracy theories to claim it never happened. David Irving would be proud. What exactly motivates these people? I don't think sculptor is thick, so there is something else going on...
Sculptor was placed into your consciousness by The Powers That Be. His role is much like the spirit of Dada, that is, to present absurdities that offer opportunities for you to hone what you know in a variety of contexts … or else complain, blame God, answer with absurdities, insult ... whatever floats your boat. It takes a degree of ego detachment for him to so knowingly play the fool.
I don't think he could ever 'detach his ego' so he's just a fool then.

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:01 pm
by Sculptor
accelafine wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:19 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:15 pm
accelafine wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:35 am Completely unhinged. :cry:
It was written by a person who knows more about it than you and has taken the trouble to look beyond the MSM versions given to you by the Biden controlled establishement
MSM? What are you? A conspiracy nut?
Don't be a dickhead and take the trouble to listen to what he says or fuck off

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:12 pm
by accelafine
Sculptor wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:01 pm
accelafine wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:19 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:15 pm

It was written by a person who knows more about it than you and has taken the trouble to look beyond the MSM versions given to you by the Biden controlled establishement
MSM? What are you? A conspiracy nut?
Don't be a dickhead and take the trouble to listen to what he says or fuck off
The ego, to think you can hand out orders and imagine that anyone's going to do anythng but :lol:
Stop being a Jew-hating, lying conspiracy nut or fuck off.

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:34 am
by Sculptor
accelafine wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:12 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:01 pm
accelafine wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:19 pm

MSM? What are you? A conspiracy nut?
Don't be a dickhead and take the trouble to listen to what he says or fuck off
The ego, to think you can hand out orders and imagine that anyone's going to do anythng but :lol:
Stop being a Jew-hating, lying conspiracy nut or fuck off.
I've just linked a jewish person whose opinion I value.
Please desist from your insults.
You can educate your self or stfu.

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:42 am
by accelafine
Sculptor wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:34 am
accelafine wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:12 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:01 pm

Don't be a dickhead and take the trouble to listen to what he says or fuck off
The ego, to think you can hand out orders and imagine that anyone's going to do anythng but :lol:
Stop being a Jew-hating, lying conspiracy nut or fuck off.
I've just linked a jewish person whose opinion I value.
Please desist from your insults.
You can educate your self of stfu.
OOh. Whose 'opinion you value'. Must be worth the effort of clicking on the link then :lol: I'm quite capable of thinking for myself, thanks all the same. It's just a shame that you are not.

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:51 am
by accelafine
Sculptor wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:34 am
accelafine wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:12 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:01 pm

Don't be a dickhead and take the trouble to listen to what he says or fuck off
The ego, to think you can hand out orders and imagine that anyone's going to do anythng but :lol:
Stop being a Jew-hating, lying conspiracy nut or fuck off.
I've just linked a jewish person whose opinion I value.
Please desist from your insults.
You can educate your self of stfu.
Ok. Clicked on it. Couldn't take any more than 5 seconds of his ridiculously OTT gesticulating. I never trust anyone who does that. They are invariably disingenuous wankers who've done too many American-style public speaking courses.
I presume you are ok with muslim countries. It's only the ONE Jewish country that you have a problem with.

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:18 am
by Sculptor
accelafine wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:42 am
Sculptor wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:34 am
accelafine wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:12 pm

The ego, to think you can hand out orders and imagine that anyone's going to do anythng but :lol:
Stop being a Jew-hating, lying conspiracy nut or fuck off.
I've just linked a jewish person whose opinion I value.
Please desist from your insults.
You can educate your self of stfu.
OOh. Whose 'opinion you value'. Must be worth the effort of clicking on the link then :lol: I'm quite capable of thinking for myself, thanks all the same. It's just a shame that you are not.
That's perfecty okay with me. You seem ignorant, and so shall you remain.

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:19 am
by Sculptor
accelafine wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:51 am
Sculptor wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:34 am
accelafine wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:12 pm

The ego, to think you can hand out orders and imagine that anyone's going to do anythng but :lol:
Stop being a Jew-hating, lying conspiracy nut or fuck off.
I've just linked a jewish person whose opinion I value.
Please desist from your insults.
You can educate your self of stfu.
Ok. Clicked on it. Couldn't take any more than 5 seconds of his ridiculously OTT gesticulating.
Truth takes more that 5 seconds.
You can get drugs to help you with your attention span.
Seek help.

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:35 am
by Sculptor
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Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:03 am
by accelafine
Sculptor wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:19 am
accelafine wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:51 am
Sculptor wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:34 am

I've just linked a jewish person whose opinion I value.
Please desist from your insults.
You can educate your self of stfu.
Ok. Clicked on it. Couldn't take any more than 5 seconds of his ridiculously OTT gesticulating.
Truth takes more that 5 seconds.
You can get drugs to help you with your attention span.
Seek help.
Listening to more than 5 seconds of shit recommended by you is more than 5 seconds out of my life that I can never get back. You've already shown yourself to be a nontruthteller and a conspiracy nut, so what on earth would be the point? You need help.

Re: The USA and Israel

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:04 am
by accelafine
''In a high-profile, live-streamed interview with Prince Harry in March 2023, Maté diagnosed the prince publicly with PTSD, ADHD, anxiety, and depression, based on his conversation with him and reading his autobiography Spare.''
The guy's a basket case.