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Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:03 pm

There really appears to be no way whatsoever that the two of us can relate.

One way for the recalcitrant multitudes to gain my favor, and favor their spiritual progress, is to help me gain riches by signing up for the Email Course. Considering the transformation results …

gUaRAnTEeD!

… who could care for the minuscule sign-up fee of $2,299.00?!?

For modest added sum I will mystically bless your Meds!

When authorities stop waging wars, I'll give them favor. Sorry. No freebies today.

iambiguous wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:00 pmWhen did I suggest that only white folks could be racists? You asked "what does 'mastery' mean to you?". I told you.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:32 amBecause the first values and explanations you offered with regard to 'Mastery' were that of Southern White slave-owners, which is a trope. As mentioned, you completely ignored the rest of the world, and the rest of human history. So your mind is fixated on one small section, of what it means to be 'Master' opposed to 'Slave'.

Okay, we both agree that those of all races are capable of embracing racism in their interactions with those of other races.

Now, my own interest then pertains to what "for all practical purposes" that would encompass socially, politically and economically in a particular community where those of the "superior" race were in power. White, black, brown, red or yellow.

This part:

...if you do believe that "on average" your race is intellectually superior to other races and you were in a position of power in a community composed of many different races, what would be permitted and what would not be permitted in regard to social, political and economic interactions? What behaviors would be encouraged/rewarded and what behaviors would be discouraged/punished? For example, would interracial marriages still be legal?

And how would you compare yourself to, say, those who practiced apartheid in South Africa and those who practiced extermination in Nazi Germany?

iambiguous wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:00 pmOr, as with AJ, are you more the "observer" type, not really much interested in "walking the talk" politically down out of the intellectual -- philosophical -- clouds.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:32 amI believe in Participation, not so much Observation. I'm more "Roman" than Greek, you could say. It's not enough to be aware of life, reality, the universe...I believe that everybody has a moral duty to "give back" and participate in society and life. My particular problem, however, is that I don't necessarily know what is right or true or existent. Hence why I use Philosophy to guide me to Truth. I recognize everybody's beliefs, regardless of those who are right or wrong.

This is what I call a "general description intellectual contraption". So, as a Participant in your own rendition of "the best of all possible communities" what conclusions have you reached Philosophically pertaining to race in this community.

You might recognize the beliefs of others in regard to race, but down out of the Philosophical clouds, in that community, mores and laws will be enacted/enforced to either reward or punish particular behaviors germane to race.

Again, you and those like AJ will either go there or you won't.



By the way...

For those curious regarding where Satyr's Philosophical thinking takes him in regard to race, check out the exchange between him and Mad Man P here: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&start=50

iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:26 pmThis is what I call a "general description intellectual contraption". So, as a Participant in your own rendition of "the best of all possible communities" what conclusions have you reached Philosophically pertaining to race in this community.

You might recognize the beliefs of others in regard to race, but down out of the Philosophical clouds, in that community, mores and laws will be enacted/enforced to either reward or punish particular behaviors germane to race.

Again, you and those like AJ will either go there or you won't.



By the way...

For those curious regarding where Satyr's Philosophical thinking takes him in regard to race, check out the exchange between him and Mad Man P here: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&start=50

I think people need to be as realistic as possible about Race without becoming emotionally invested, but this is a very difficult challenge, considering the amount of miscegenation that takes place in most people's postmodern lives and within their extended families. So people are less willing to defend any racially 'pure' ideology.

It's still politically incorrect, taboo, and "far-right", to even broach the subject.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:22 pm

iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:26 pmThis is what I call a "general description intellectual contraption". So, as a Participant in your own rendition of "the best of all possible communities" what conclusions have you reached Philosophically pertaining to race in this community.

You might recognize the beliefs of others in regard to race, but down out of the Philosophical clouds, in that community, mores and laws will be enacted/enforced to either reward or punish particular behaviors germane to race.

Again, you and those like AJ will either go there or you won't.



By the way...

For those curious regarding where Satyr's Philosophical thinking takes him in regard to race, check out the exchange between him and Mad Man P here: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&start=50

I think people need to be as realistic as possible about Race without becoming emotionally invested, but this is a very difficult challenge, considering the amount of miscegenation that takes place in most people's postmodern lives and within their extended families. So people are less willing to defend any racially 'pure' ideology.

It's still politically incorrect, taboo, and "far-right", to even broach the subject.

People probably need to be as realistic as possible thinking about eye color too. We all know that blue eyes and brown eyes don't mix very well. It'll just create a 'muddy brown' color in eyes. Who wants that?

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+co ... nt=gws-wiz

iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:26 pm Okay, we both agree that those of all races are capable of embracing racism in their interactions with those of other races.

Racism and the *racist* are modern terms and conceptions. In those places where slavery was practiced (and it is still widely practiced today I am told) the basis of it was not as a result of assigning a racially-based inferiority, but rather as a result of conquest or capture (as on the Barbary Coast).

The term racism is far too hot a term, too infused with hot rhetoric, to be of much use in understanding modern cultural conflicts, which seem always far more complex.

Racism and racist have become laden tools with many layers of ideological function and this is why focus is placed on CRT — because these assignations have so many ulterior purposes in modern political struggles.

An interesting interview with Renaud Camus.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:22 pm

iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:26 pmThis is what I call a "general description intellectual contraption". So, as a Participant in your own rendition of "the best of all possible communities" what conclusions have you reached Philosophically pertaining to race in this community.

You might recognize the beliefs of others in regard to race, but down out of the Philosophical clouds, in that community, mores and laws will be enacted/enforced to either reward or punish particular behaviors germane to race.

Again, you and those like AJ will either go there or you won't.



By the way...

For those curious regarding where Satyr's Philosophical thinking takes him in regard to race, check out the exchange between him and Mad Man P here: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&start=50

I think people need to be as realistic as possible about Race without becoming emotionally invested, but this is a very difficult challenge, considering the amount of miscegenation that takes place in most people's postmodern lives and within their extended families. So people are less willing to defend any racially 'pure' ideology.

It's still politically incorrect, taboo, and "far-right", to even broach the subject.

Okay, Mr. Wiggle, but my interest here revolves more around how you would "broach the subject" of Race "for all practical purposes" down out of the intellectual clouds. This part...

...if you do believe that "on average" your race is intellectually superior to other races and you were in a position of power in a community composed of many different races, what would be permitted and what would not be permitted in regard to social, political and economic interactions? What behaviors would be encouraged/rewarded and what behaviors would be discouraged/punished? For example, would interracial marriages still be legal?

And how would you compare yourself to, say, those who practiced apartheid in South Africa and those who practiced extermination in Nazi Germany?

Meanwhile, over at ILP, Satyr has taken up the subject of Race with Ecmandu, someone who has spoken personally to God, the Devil and Buddha: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&start=75

You tell me.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:05 pm

iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:26 pm Okay, we both agree that those of all races are capable of embracing racism in their interactions with those of other races.

Racism and the *racist* are modern terms and conceptions. In those places where slavery was practiced (and it is still widely practiced today I am told) the basis of it was not as a result of assigning a racially-based inferiority, but rather as a result of conquest or capture (as on the Barbary Coast).

The term racism is far too hot a term, too infused with hot rhetoric, to be of much use in understanding modern cultural conflicts, which seem always far more complex.

Racism and racist have become laden tools with many layers of ideological function and this is why focus is placed on CRT — because these assignations have so many ulterior purposes in modern political struggles.

The pedant!!!

Instead, let's get back to this, Mr. Wiggle...


...if you do believe that "on average" your race is intellectually superior to other races and you were in a position of power in a community composed of many different races, what would be permitted and what would not be permitted in regard to social, political and economic interactions? What behaviors would be encouraged/rewarded and what behaviors would be discouraged/punished? For example, would interracial marriages still be legal?

And how would you compare yourself to, say, those who practiced apartheid in South Africa and those who practiced extermination in Nazi Germany?

After consulting with Satyr and the 22nd Wizard of course.

I will happily answer all questions when you sign up for The Course.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:45 pm I will happily answer all questions when you sign up for The Course.

Sieg Heil?

iambiguous wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:06 pm

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:22 pm

iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:26 pmThis is what I call a "general description intellectual contraption". So, as a Participant in your own rendition of "the best of all possible communities" what conclusions have you reached Philosophically pertaining to race in this community.

You might recognize the beliefs of others in regard to race, but down out of the Philosophical clouds, in that community, mores and laws will be enacted/enforced to either reward or punish particular behaviors germane to race.

Again, you and those like AJ will either go there or you won't.



By the way...

For those curious regarding where Satyr's Philosophical thinking takes him in regard to race, check out the exchange between him and Mad Man P here: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&start=50

I think people need to be as realistic as possible about Race without becoming emotionally invested, but this is a very difficult challenge, considering the amount of miscegenation that takes place in most people's postmodern lives and within their extended families. So people are less willing to defend any racially 'pure' ideology.

It's still politically incorrect, taboo, and "far-right", to even broach the subject.

Okay, Mr. Wiggle, but my interest here revolves more around how you would "broach the subject" of Race "for all practical purposes" down out of the intellectual clouds. This part...

...if you do believe that "on average" your race is intellectually superior to other races and you were in a position of power in a community composed of many different races, what would be permitted and what would not be permitted in regard to social, political and economic interactions? What behaviors would be encouraged/rewarded and what behaviors would be discouraged/punished? For example, would interracial marriages still be legal?

And how would you compare yourself to, say, those who practiced apartheid in South Africa and those who practiced extermination in Nazi Germany?

Meanwhile, over at ILP, Satyr has taken up the subject of Race with Ecmandu, someone who has spoken personally to God, the Devil and Buddha: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&start=75

You tell me.

You are completely obsessed with 'Satyr'. He's not on here and hasn't been for years.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:22 pm

iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:26 pmThis is what I call a "general description intellectual contraption". So, as a Participant in your own rendition of "the best of all possible communities" what conclusions have you reached Philosophically pertaining to race in this community.

You might recognize the beliefs of others in regard to race, but down out of the Philosophical clouds, in that community, mores and laws will be enacted/enforced to either reward or punish particular behaviors germane to race.

Again, you and those like AJ will either go there or you won't.



By the way...

For those curious regarding where Satyr's Philosophical thinking takes him in regard to race, check out the exchange between him and Mad Man P here: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&start=50

I think people need to be as realistic as possible about Race without becoming emotionally invested, but this is a very difficult challenge, considering the amount of miscegenation that takes place in most people's postmodern lives and within their extended families. So people are less willing to defend any racially 'pure' ideology.

It's still politically incorrect, taboo, and "far-right", to even broach the subject.

We are all one species so the idea of miscegenation is meaningless.
There are no races since we are all capable of breeding.
Attempts at "purity" always fail. That is one reason why the Allies won against the "racially pure" Japanese and Germans.
It's a phenomenon called hybrid vigour, when two distinct types get to cross breed.
That's why Obama was the best President in modern history; fitter. smarter, more capable.
And why Trump and Bush were the worst; stupid, narrow minded, inarticulate - a result of in-breeding. Bush because they were hill-billies and Trump because his family has a record of incest.

How many of your own family has you fucked?

From the man who chooses to live as far away from '''''diversity'''' as he can possibly get.

And yeah, if you call 'the best' as in 'the best' at slaughtering children with drones. Wonkers and their hypocrisy

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:06 pm

iambiguous wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:06 pm

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:22 pm
I think people need to be as realistic as possible about Race without becoming emotionally invested, but this is a very difficult challenge, considering the amount of miscegenation that takes place in most people's postmodern lives and within their extended families. So people are less willing to defend any racially 'pure' ideology.

It's still politically incorrect, taboo, and "far-right", to even broach the subject.

Okay, Mr. Wiggle, but my interest here revolves more around how you would "broach the subject" of Race "for all practical purposes" down out of the intellectual clouds. This part...

...if you do believe that "on average" your race is intellectually superior to other races and you were in a position of power in a community composed of many different races, what would be permitted and what would not be permitted in regard to social, political and economic interactions? What behaviors would be encouraged/rewarded and what behaviors would be discouraged/punished? For example, would interracial marriages still be legal?

And how would you compare yourself to, say, those who practiced apartheid in South Africa and those who practiced extermination in Nazi Germany?

Meanwhile, over at ILP, Satyr has taken up the subject of Race with Ecmandu, someone who has spoken personally to God, the Devil and Buddha: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&start=75

You tell me.

You are completely obsessed with 'Satyr'. He's not on here and hasn't been for years.

No more obsessed with him than you are obsessed with thinking that this is actually true. Besides, as AJ made abundantly clear, we are Satyr.