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Re: Dilemma of beginning of time
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:10 pm
by Atla
Speakpigeon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:43 pm
You should be aware we've made our points a while ago. There's no need to insist. We just disagree. Maybe you're correct, but for now you haven't been able to prove it to me. I failed to convince you. Fair enough. Personally, I can live with that.
EB
Well aren't you the noble soul suddenly.

Re: Dilemma of beginning of time
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:35 pm
by Speakpigeon
Do it for both. Countable and uncountable.
Logic again. There are many different sorts of uncountable. Uncountably many?
You already know what kind of infinity it is.
I would know if I knew and i don't s I don't know.
numerical values to the concepts of "yesterday", "today" and "tomorrow"
You should know our measure of time is relative not to time itself but to human activities and natural processes. Why should I attempt something nobody even pretend they're doing. How much time is 24 hours?
Scientists themselves say, since Einstein, that time is "what is measured by a clock". An hour is not what we think of as an interval of time, it's whatever is measured as one hour by clocks.
EB
Re: Dilemma of beginning of time
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:37 pm
by Logik
Speakpigeon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:35 pm
Do it for both. Countable and uncountable.
Logic again. There are many different sorts of uncountable. Uncountably many?
You already know what kind of infinity it is.
I would know if I knew and i don't s I don't know.
numerical values to the concepts of "yesterday", "today" and "tomorrow"
You should know our measure of time is relative not to time itself but to human activities and natural processes. Why should I attempt something nobody even pretend they're doing. How much time is 24 hours?
Scientists themselves say, since Einstein, that time is "what is measured by a clock". An hour is not what we think of as an interval of time, it's whatever is measured as one hour by clocks.
EB
The Nile.
Apparently it's not just a river in Africa.
Re: Dilemma of beginning of time
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:38 pm
by Speakpigeon
Atla wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:10 pm
Well aren't you the noble soul suddenly.

Good. We're done.

EB
Re: Dilemma of beginning of time
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:39 pm
by Speakpigeon
Logik wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:37 pm
The Nile. Apparently it's not just a river in Africa.
I shall ask the Sphinx what that means.
EB
Re: Dilemma of beginning of time
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:40 pm
by Logik
Speakpigeon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:39 pm
Logik wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:37 pm
The Nile. Apparently it's not just a river in Africa.
I shall ask the Sphinx what that means.
EB
Ask for lessons in logic instead

Re: Dilemma of beginning of time
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:08 pm
by Ramu
Time is a concept occurring within Consciousness.
Re: Dilemma of beginning of time
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:56 am
by Speakpigeon
Ramu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:08 pm
Time is a concept occurring within Consciousness.
For how long is it thus
occurring?
EB
Re: Dilemma of beginning of time
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:06 am
by Ramu
In other words Consciousness is first order Reality that occurs outside of time
Re: Dilemma of beginning of time
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:29 am
by Dontaskme
Speakpigeon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:56 am
Ramu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:08 pm
Time is a concept occurring within Consciousness.
For how long is it thus
occurring?
EB
How long is infinity?
Re: Dilemma of beginning of time
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:26 pm
by Speakpigeon
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:29 am
Speakpigeon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:56 am
Ramu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:08 pm
Time is a concept occurring within Consciousness.
For how long is it thus
occurring?
How long is infinity?
Infinitely long, I'd say. More, you think?
I guess you didn't quite get the irony in my question. How time could be anything "
occurring" if it is only a concept? Get it?
Logic doesn't seem to be your thing.
Unless you're equivocating on the term "consciousness"? Or on the term "concept"? Or on the term "occurring"? And what else?
How do you think we can at all have a conversation if you keep equivocating?
consciousness
n.
1. the state of being conscious; awareness.
2. the thoughts and feelings, collectively, of an individual or of an aggregate of people.
3. full activity of the mind and senses, as in waking life: to regain consciousness.
4. awareness of something for what it is; internal knowledge: consciousness of wrongdoing.
5. concern, interest, or awareness: class consciousness.
6. the mental activity of which a person is aware, contrasted with unconscious thought.
7. Philos. the mind or the mental faculties, characterized by thought, feelings, and volition.
So how time could possibly be "
occurring" if it is only a concept?
If what you mean is that there is only "consciousness" and nothing else, then just say so, that will save
time.
EB