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Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:43 pm
by Dalek Prime
Walker wrote:Answering a question with a question. Tedious.
No question. Explanation. And you ignored it. Your issue.

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:34 pm
by sthitapragya
Nick_A wrote:
Sthit wrote: Are you saying the God of the old testament is not the father that Jesus refers to? If he is not, then the book of Genesis should make no sense to you. The God of Genesis would not be God. So how could he create the world?
There are many words for God in the Hebrew. The God of Creation is the Christian God. The personal Hebrew God is that of Christendom.
Oh, and just for your reference: John 8:54 "Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me."
Paul describes the Christian God. Jesus is within the Christian God and at the same time the Father is within Jesus. Consequently Jesus is not reflecting his opinion as we do. He is reflecting what IS.


Acts 17: 24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us. 28 ‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’[c]


That does not answer my question. Jesus told the Jews that his father was their God. You say you have no connection with the Hebrew God. So either Jesus was wrong or you are. You believe that God is three in one. The father, the son and the holy spirit. Jesus is the son. Is the Hebrew God the father or not? If not, then was Jesus lying? If yes, then why did you commit blasphemy?

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:43 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
Dalek Prime wrote:
Walker wrote:Abortion is death. It isn't funny.

Folks laugh at death.

Why?
You laugh with joy at birth, and celebrate it, yet it leads to death.

Why?

Every parent is directly responsible for at least the same number of deaths as births. That could be billions, given time. Then there's animal deaths, to keep those children fed. And destruction of the ecosystem, to sustain them.
If he's as concerned about eagles as he claims to be, then how does he think all those extra people are going to be housed and 'resourced'? The more humans, the less room for anything else. 'Pro-life' KKKristian types don't tend to give a crap about environmental matters, quite the opposite, so I wonder how genuine he is. Faux 'concern' for other people's embryos doesn't normally go hand in hand with concern for eagles.

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:07 pm
by Dalek Prime
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Dalek Prime wrote:
Walker wrote:Abortion is death. It isn't funny.

Folks laugh at death.

Why?
You laugh with joy at birth, and celebrate it, yet it leads to death.

Why?

Every parent is directly responsible for at least the same number of deaths as births. That could be billions, given time. Then there's animal deaths, to keep those children fed. And destruction of the ecosystem, to sustain them.
If he's as concerned about eagles as he claims to be, then how does he think all those extra people are going to be housed and 'resourced'? The more humans, the less room for anything else. 'Pro-life' KKKristian types don't tend to give a crap about environmental matters, quite the opposite, so I wonder how genuine he is. Faux 'concern' for other people's embryos doesn't normally go hand in hand with concern for eagles.
Yep. And he can't address me anyways. I'm clearly correct. That's not ego talking. That's faith in sound logic.

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:29 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
Dalek Prime wrote: Yep. And he can't address me anyways. I'm clearly correct. That's not ego talking. That's faith in sound logic.
He probably has a wind farm going up near where he lives and he's worried about noise and his house valuation. I doubt if he really cares about eagles at all.

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:01 pm
by Walker
What a couple of pussies you two are.

:lol:

His laugh for the night.

Idiocy must be contagious. You two are riddled with it.

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:41 am
by Nick_A
sthit wrote:
That does not answer my question. Jesus told the Jews that his father was their God. You say you have no connection with the Hebrew God. So either Jesus was wrong or you are. You believe that God is three in one. The father, the son and the holy spirit. Jesus is the son. Is the Hebrew God the father or not? If not, then was Jesus lying? If yes, then why did you commit blasphemy?
Trying to explain the Trinity to a blind denier is cruel and inhuman punishment. It is also impossible to explain the difference between Go referred to in Genesis 1 and LORD God used in Genesis 2. Somehow it is wrong even to try on a thread featuring justifying abortions of convenience.

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:29 am
by Dalek Prime
Walker wrote:What a couple of pussies you two are.

:lol:

His laugh for the night.

Idiocy must be contagious. You two are riddled with it.
That's right. Keep not addressing what I wrote. That's all you're worth.

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:36 am
by sthitapragya
Nick_A wrote:sthit wrote:
That does not answer my question. Jesus told the Jews that his father was their God. You say you have no connection with the Hebrew God. So either Jesus was wrong or you are. You believe that God is three in one. The father, the son and the holy spirit. Jesus is the son. Is the Hebrew God the father or not? If not, then was Jesus lying? If yes, then why did you commit blasphemy?
Trying to explain the Trinity to a blind denier is cruel and inhuman punishment. It is also impossible to explain the difference between Go referred to in Genesis 1 and LORD God used in Genesis 2. Somehow it is wrong even to try on a thread featuring justifying abortions of convenience.
Acts 17: 24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth". You were saying something about the Lord and God?
What in heaven's name are you talking about? On the seventh day, God changed? What utter nonsense.
That is a cop out if ever there was one. What is there to explain?

Jesus said,""If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me."

There is no way anyone can interpret it in any other way.

Jesus is talking to the Hebrews.

He tells them "My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me".

Which means the Hebrew God. Unless you are saying that Jesus was lying. Which is not possible. So Jesus war referring to the Hebrew God as his Father.

The Father.

Whom you worship.

Who kills children to make a point.

So is 1/3rd of your God worse than pro abortionists?

And how do you justify worshiping such a God when you are such lover of life?

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:07 am
by Hobbes' Choice
Walker wrote:Answering a question with a question. Tedious.
Some responses have answers AND questions.
You seem too stupid to notice that the question was answered. And too stupid to find yourself capable of answering the question.
Try to keep up, I know it is difficult on a diet of burgers and Twinkies; but you could at least try.

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:06 pm
by Walker
And some have only questions,
or answers that one could find in a puppy dog’s eyes.

(Sorry to hear about what happened.)

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:20 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Walker wrote:And some have only questions,
or answers that one could find in a puppy dog’s eyes.

(Sorry to hear about what happened.)
Keep taking the pills.

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:40 pm
by Nick_A
sthit wrote: Jesus said,
""If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me."
Genesis 1 refers to God. Genesis 2 refers to LORD God. Can you sense the difference? Well if you can't and insist on arguing about things you dislike, what is the sense in it? You are better off arguing politics.

Understanding what Jesus said requires understanding of what is meant by glorification and let there be light. What is light. It ha a scientific and a spiritual meaning. Delving into these questions isn't your thing. You prefer arguing so are really better off in politics.

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:07 pm
by Walker
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Walker wrote:And some have only questions,
or answers that one could find in a puppy dog’s eyes.

(Sorry to hear about what happened.)
Keep taking the pills.
I hear that you got hit with the stupid stick one too many times and it stuck. You’re stuck on stupid, moron, idiot, etc. What changes stillness to motion for you is to rub this infection off onto someone. To infect them. The fun for folks is to work within the situation of this corruption, this Neinism that infects the world. Embrace the No.

You’ll enjoy this, you fool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2HBdRCroks

Re: Abortion is murder, or is it?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:59 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Walker wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Walker wrote:And some have only questions,
or answers that one could find in a puppy dog’s eyes.

(Sorry to hear about what happened.)
Keep taking the pills.
I hear that you got hit with the stupid stick one too many times and it stuck. You’re stuck on stupid, moron, idiot, etc. What changes stillness to motion for you is to rub this infection off onto someone. To infect them. The fun for folks is to work within the situation of this corruption, this Neinism that infects the world. Embrace the No.

You’ll enjoy this, you fool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2HBdRCroks
How you think this is any kind of response makes me fear for your sanity. But then, it's what I expect from a guy on a diet of burgers and Fox News.