Reality is Inaccessible

[Age]

Yes they are all known, all concepts are known..

By who and/or what?

Already answered, but if you like to play your own parrot game. Then I'll repeat the answer for you again.

The who or what is No one knows.

LOL

How does that 'you there' KNOW, irrefutably, that there is NO one who knows who and what the 'one' IS, EXACTLY?

WHY do 'you there' continually BELIEVE that that one single little you, who exists only for a relatively nothing period of time, is actually able to speak for EVERY thing for ALL time?

[Age]

The more you 'try to' rationalize and/or justify what you have previously stated and written, the more complex you are making, what is essentially Truly pure simple and easy.

Stop trying to do what you keep accusing others of doing then... it's that simples.

What do yo envision or imagine I am "trying to do" here?

[Dontaskme]

LOOK, you want to make the claim that 'you' BURN with fire, BUT you are completely incapable of clarifying what that 'you' IS, EXACTLY.

I know what the 'you' is.

Listen, if you do not understand what it means to feel burning on your flesh, then so be it, doesn't mean other people do not know.

Also, you making the claim now that there is a 'you there' and a 'you here' completely contradicts your other claim that there is only a nondual reality.

There is no such thing as Nonduality, because Nonduality is not a thing...something you keep forgetting, even though it has been explained to you hundereds of times, so be it, continue with the fallacy, it's your need.

A 'you there' and a 'you here' means that there really is a dual reality.

already been explained, that Nonduality is duality...but then you like to play the parrot game, and so I'm just here to entertain your desires. Carry on with the fallacy, there's nothing else for you to do here.

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[Dontaskme]

The more you 'try to' rationalize and/or justify what you have previously stated and written, the more complex you are making, what is essentially Truly pure simple and easy.

Stop trying to do what you keep accusing others of doing then... it's that simples.

What do yo envision or imagine I am "trying to do" here?

What you assume others are doing.

[Age]

You already have all the answers to your questions Age.

You do not need to seek clarification for your own questions... your own need to know knowledge.

Unless you do not believe your own self grown knowledge, or you believe that there are others who have a different knowledge to you, and that this other knowledge exists independently of your own, in that case, either you take those other independant forms of knowledge to be your own, or reject them outright, it's your need, no one elses.

What are you on about now?

I neither believe nor disbelieve ANY thing.

Then you can never know if anything I say to you is true or false, right or wrong, correct or incorrect.

If 'I' was 'you', then I would NOT be so sure of this.

And, WHY would what you say here logically follow?

If like you beleive, you have no bleiefs about anything you are reading.

But I do NOT believe this. Therefore, moot.

So tell me AGE, what are you actually talking about.

I have mostly just been asking you clarifying questions in order to be able to try to better comprehend what you are saying, so as to better understand you.

And who are you responding to, and why are you writing at all, and why are you asking for clarification from others if you have no beliefs about what they are saying, to be true or false or whatever, and why are so insane and crazy?


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If you are NOT going to ask questions from a Truly OPEN perspective, then there really is NO use even attempting to answer them Honestly.

I am responding to the ones who I quote and respond to.

I am writing to learn how to better communicate with 'you', human beings.

I ask for clarification from "others" in order to learn how to better communicate with other "others". Having NO beliefs about what "others" are saying I found allows me to remain Truly OPEN, which then proceeds in more and further clarifying questions.

WHY 'I' am SO "insane" AND "crazy", to you, would be some thing of which only you know.

[Atla]

Again: yes, there is no certain, universally shared, objective ground.

why would you be talking about certainty?

you are the one needing certainty, while denying this

[Atla]

Again, because there would be no grounds for the belief epistemologically (under the stance in question). It would just be arbitrary. And the person couldn't appeal to "conventional usage" of a term, as if they know how other people are using a term, because on their view, they can't actually perceive other people.

Again: yes, there is no certain, universally shared, objective ground. There never was one, people just made it up, as you are making it up now.
And the problem is?

What are you basing the "there is NO certain, universally shared, objective ground" opinion, view, or belief on, EXACTLY, if "there is NO certain, universally shared, objective ground", and "there never was one"?

this way of thinking is above your 60 IQ level

[Atla]

It's scientific fact that we don't directly perceive the outside world as it is. This debate is long over, you guys just have something to gain from being science-deniers. Personally I don't consider the inability to handle the truth to be a strength, a virtue.

If you mean by, "we don't directly perceive the outside world," that an entire neurological system is required by produce perception, that is of course true. The neurological system is the means by which one is conscious of everything and not just the, "outside word," as you put it, but the, "inside world," (by interoception) as well. The fact is, the more the neurological system is studied by neurologists and physiologists (real scientists) not psychologists (pseueo-scientists) the more astounding it becomes how perfectly that system makes the representation of what is perceived to consciousness.

While almost no one even questions for a second that cameras are able to produce nearly perfect representations of what is photographed these days, they doubt that the much more sophisticated neurological system's representation to consciousness can be trusted at all. It's absurd and truly a rejection of both reason and science.

This is your personal bullshit, not contemporary science.
Again: personally I don't consider the inability to handle the truth to be a strength, a virtue.

[Dontaskme]

By who and/or what?

Already answered, but if you like to play your own parrot game. Then I'll repeat the answer for you again.

The who or what is No one knows.

LOL

How does that 'you there' KNOW, irrefutably, that there is NO one who knows who and what the 'one' IS, EXACTLY?

WHY do 'you there' continually BELIEVE that that one single little you, who exists only for a relatively nothing period of time, is actually able to speak for EVERY thing for ALL time?

The one here is only speaking for itself, it has no access to anything outside of itself.

All that's appearing to be out-there, is actually only accessible to the one here, it's all appearing to the one here, namely me.


The one here does not know how or why I am, only that I am, and the knowledge I know is what I here am making up.

I do not know of anything existing outside this immediate one who is here. Responding to comments made on this forum, is all apparently happening in me here.

[Dontaskme]

I am writing to learn how to better communicate with 'you', human beings.

But if you have no beliefs about anything known in a communicational sense of the word.

What's the point of needing to communicate better?

Why do you need to communicate better with people, why is that important in your life, if you like you say, you know you have no beliefs about what is being communicated ?

The truth is, nondual discussions are totally bonkers, but you just won't admit it to yourself. I know I'm insane, but do you.

[attofishpi]

I am writing to learn how to better communicate with 'you', human beings.

But if you have no beliefs about anything known in a communicational sense of the word.

What's the point of needing to communicate better?

Why do you need to communicate better with people, why is that important in your life, if you like you say, you know you have no beliefs about what is being communicated ?

The truth is, nondual discussions are totally bonkers, but you just won't admit it to yourself. I know I'm insane, but do you.

The fact that U are permitted to spout your drivel across a forum that is supposed to represent a love of "WISDOM" is testament that there is a complete disregard for actual ''PHILOSOPHY''....on this forum, ergo RL feed me in.

[Dontaskme]

I am writing to learn how to better communicate with 'you', human beings.

But if you have no beliefs about anything known in a communicational sense of the word.

What's the point of needing to communicate better?

Why do you need to communicate better with people, why is that important in your life, if you like you say, you know you have no beliefs about what is being communicated ?

The truth is, nondual discussions are totally bonkers, but you just won't admit it to yourself. I know I'm insane, but do you.

The fact that U are permitted to spout your drivel across a forum that is supposed to represent a love of "WISDOM" is testament that there is a complete disregard for actual ''PHILOSOPHY''....on this forum, ergo RL feed me in.

POT kettle.

Pot being the operative word. Just keep smoking what ever gets you through the night!

If you do not LOVE my wisdom, then fuck off, don't read it. Oh wait, you cannot help yourself.

You simply cannot stop your addictions can you, dickhead.

[Dontaskme]

The fact that U are permitted to spout your drivel across a forum that is supposed to represent a love of "WISDOM" is testament that there is a complete disregard for actual ''PHILOSOPHY''....on this forum, ergo RL feed me in.

Until you learn to have respect and regard for other peoples opinions, until you learn to love others as you would love yourself, do unto others as you would want them to do to you, treat others how you would want to be treated, only then will you have the authority to inform others what is Actual philosophy.

Until then, you'll just remain a kunt.

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[Terrapin Station]

Again: yes, there is no certain, universally shared, objective ground.

why would you be talking about certainty?

you are the one needing certainty, while denying this

You believe that I'm needing certainty based on what, exactly? What are some things I said that led you to believe this?

[Atla]

The fact that U are permitted to spout your drivel across a forum that is supposed to represent a love of "WISDOM" is testament that there is a complete disregard for actual ''PHILOSOPHY''....on this forum, ergo RL feed me in.

Until you learn to have respect and regard for other peoples opinions, until you learn to love others as you would love yourself, do unto others as you would want them to do to you, treat others how you would want to be treated, only then will you have the authority to inform others what is Actual philosophy.

Until then, you'll just remain a kunt.

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You've become quite the keeper of sanity DAM