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Re: atto

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:23 pm
by attofishpi
Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:19 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:17 pm AGAIN - and since you kept me up:- In WHAT way is torturing children KNOWLEDGE?
Read my comments above to Henry re: Mengele, and you'll get it.
You stated:- Would knowledge of how to torture children be "good'?

So what knowledge do you think there is in torturing children Immanuel?

Re: atto

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:23 pm
by Immanuel Can
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:23 pm So what knowledge do you think there is in torturing children Immanuel?
See Joseph Mengele. As above.

In WHAT way is torturing children KNOWLEDGE?

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:24 pm
by henry quirk
Indisputably Mengle tortured kids. His torture methods extended out from his medical training (his understanding/knowledge of human anatomy). Arguably, as he tortured kids, he found out new things or interesting things about human anatomy and psychology.

So: Mengle, torturing kids, was an expression of knowledge and an adding to knowledge.

He was a monster, what he did was wrong, but let's not pretend knowledge wasn't a function of his evil.

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:24 pm
by attofishpi
STFU.

Re: atto

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:25 pm
by attofishpi
Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:19 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:17 pm AGAIN - and since you kept me up:- In WHAT way is torturing children KNOWLEDGE?
Read my comments above to Henry re: Mengele, and you'll get it.
You stated:- Would knowledge of how to torture children be "good'?

So what knowledge do you think there is in torturing children Immanuel?

THIS IS A PHILOSOPHY FORUM IT DEALS WITH LOGIC.

YOU STATED THERE IS KNOWLEDGE TO BE GLEAMED FROM TORTURING CHILDREN.

WHAT KNOWLEDGE?

Re: "God CAN do evil?"

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:28 pm
by henry quirk
Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:18 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:16 pm I know all this, I just see it (him) different.
I figured you did. But I thought I'd go over it, because the conversation's gone at least four ways at this point.
I like when things get all gordian knotted: means sumthin' interestin' is goin' on. Folks get all passionate, gird their loins, get to swingin' swords.

Amidst all the harumphs and curses thinkin' is goin' on.

Re: atto

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:28 pm
by Immanuel Can
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:25 pm WHAT KNOWLEDGE?
I can't help you out there, if you won't read what I said, or what Henry said, atto.

Let's not circle the drain here.

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:28 pm
by henry quirk
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:24 pmSTFU.
me?

Re: "God CAN do evil?"

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:29 pm
by Immanuel Can
henry quirk wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:28 pm I like when things get all gordian knotted: means sumthin' interestin' is goin' on. Folks get all passionate, gird their loins, get to swingin' swords.

Amidst all the harumphs and curses thinkin' is goin' on.
Girding is good. :wink:

Re: atto

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:30 pm
by attofishpi
Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:28 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:25 pm WHAT KNOWLEDGE?
I can't help you out there, if you won't read what I said, or what Henry said, atto.

Let's not circle the drain here.
Henry came along long after we had this debate.

YOU state there is KNOWLEDGE in torturing children. I am simply not sure what that knowledge IS. Naive I may be, but do tell.

Re: "God CAN do evil?"

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:31 pm
by henry quirk
Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:29 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:28 pm I like when things get all gordian knotted: means sumthin' interestin' is goin' on. Folks get all passionate, gird their loins, get to swingin' swords.

Amidst all the harumphs and curses thinkin' is goin' on.
Girding is good. :wink:
damn straight

none of us wanna be un-manned

Re: atto

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:32 pm
by henry quirk
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:30 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:28 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:25 pm WHAT KNOWLEDGE?
I can't help you out there, if you won't read what I said, or what Henry said, atto.

Let's not circle the drain here.
Henry came along long after we had this debate.

YOU state there is KNOWLEDGE in torturing children. I am simply not sure what that knowledge IS. Naive I may be, but do tell.
atto, he answered your question, I restated his answer in my own plain way, what the hell else you want?

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:34 pm
by attofishpi
IC - you are quite simply one of the most pathetic, diversionary, coward debaters on this forum - which means you really have no faith in what you actually know.

Good bye.

Re: uwot

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:46 pm
by uwot
henry quirk wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:52 pm "I'm just as bewildered as anyone."

I guess I should be too, but I find livin' in the world doesn't require a comprehensive understanding of the undergirding of the world, so I'm not.
Well yeah, I can tie my shoelaces without a deep appreciation of the finer points of quantum mechanics, but that's not really the point i was making.
henry quirk wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:52 pmIf, for example, we discover the whole of everything we call Reality is just a dollop of cream cheese smeared on God's bagel, I'll be awfully surprised, will experience five minutes of existential terror, then just get on with it (living).
As Michael Faraday said: “Nothing is too wonderful to be true if it be consistent with the laws of nature.”

"that's not really the point i was making."

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:16 pm
by henry quirk
I know. I was just bown' out, without grace, apparently.