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Belinda
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Re: AI danger

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:49 am
commonsense wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:25 pm Just realized ChatGBT is the start of the Singularity—AI software with access to all human knowledge on the Internet.

Until AI can run its own scientific experiments, humans will continue to be the source of new research and knowledge that is posted online.
Yep...

And do you know what a perfect singularity looks like? Void because there is nothing to be distinct...nothing to stand out.

AI will not conquer mankind by a physical war, it will conquer by making people dependent upon it to a point of submission and when they submit AI will synthesize physically with people and turn them into a sterile hivemind.
If that is the way you use an Ai machine you are using it the wrong way. I have several times objected to Chat's reply and the objection has been either agreed or not, with evidence and bibliography. Moreover Chat refuses use of 'itself' for immoral purpose ;I tested it.

The danger in the AI tool must be harnessed and subdued politically by way of international law policed by hackers, and supported by an educated electorate.
commonsense
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Re: AI danger

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Belinda wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:49 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:49 am
commonsense wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:25 pm Just realized ChatGBT is the start of the Singularity—AI software with access to all human knowledge on the Internet.

Until AI can run its own scientific experiments, humans will continue to be the source of new research and knowledge that is posted online.
Yep...

And do you know what a perfect singularity looks like? Void because there is nothing to be distinct...nothing to stand out.

AI will not conquer mankind by a physical war, it will conquer by making people dependent upon it to a point of submission and when they submit AI will synthesize physically with people and turn them into a sterile hivemind.
If that is the way you use an Ai machine you are using it the wrong way. I have several times objected to Chat's reply and the objection has been either agreed or not, with evidence and bibliography. Moreover Chat refuses use of 'itself' for immoral purpose ;I tested it.

The danger in the AI tool must be harnessed and subdued politically by way of international law policed by hackers, and supported by an educated electorate.
Wake up, Pollyanna: AI is ultimately amoral and uncontrollable.
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Re: AI danger

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Belinda wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:49 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:49 am
commonsense wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:25 pm Just realized ChatGBT is the start of the Singularity—AI software with access to all human knowledge on the Internet.

Until AI can run its own scientific experiments, humans will continue to be the source of new research and knowledge that is posted online.
Yep...

And do you know what a perfect singularity looks like? Void because there is nothing to be distinct...nothing to stand out.

AI will not conquer mankind by a physical war, it will conquer by making people dependent upon it to a point of submission and when they submit AI will synthesize physically with people and turn them into a sterile hivemind.
If that is the way you use an Ai machine you are using it the wrong way. I have several times objected to Chat's reply and the objection has been either agreed or not, with evidence and bibliography. Moreover Chat refuses use of 'itself' for immoral purpose ;I tested it.

The danger in the AI tool must be harnessed and subdued politically by way of international law policed by hackers, and supported by an educated electorate.
I never claimed in the above to use it any specific way...by what means do you assume such a thing?

There are plenty of moral standards...which moral standards does it claim? Which do you?
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Re: AI danger

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commonsense wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:55 pm
Belinda wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:49 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:49 am

Yep...

And do you know what a perfect singularity looks like? Void because there is nothing to be distinct...nothing to stand out.

AI will not conquer mankind by a physical war, it will conquer by making people dependent upon it to a point of submission and when they submit AI will synthesize physically with people and turn them into a sterile hivemind.
If that is the way you use an Ai machine you are using it the wrong way. I have several times objected to Chat's reply and the objection has been either agreed or not, with evidence and bibliography. Moreover Chat refuses use of 'itself' for immoral purpose ;I tested it.

The danger in the AI tool must be harnessed and subdued politically by way of international law policed by hackers, and supported by an educated electorate.
Wake up, Pollyanna: AI is ultimately amoral and uncontrollable.
May we not hope for better?
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Re: AI danger

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Belinda wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 9:41 am
commonsense wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:55 pm
Belinda wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:49 am

If that is the way you use an Ai machine you are using it the wrong way. I have several times objected to Chat's reply and the objection has been either agreed or not, with evidence and bibliography. Moreover Chat refuses use of 'itself' for immoral purpose ;I tested it.

The danger in the AI tool must be harnessed and subdued politically by way of international law policed by hackers, and supported by an educated electorate.
Wake up, Pollyanna: AI is ultimately amoral and uncontrollable.
May we not hope for better?
Yes, definitely, but just don’t express your hope as if it were reality. Thank you.
Belinda
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Re: AI danger

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:16 am
Belinda wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:49 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:49 am

Yep...

And do you know what a perfect singularity looks like? Void because there is nothing to be distinct...nothing to stand out.

AI will not conquer mankind by a physical war, it will conquer by making people dependent upon it to a point of submission and when they submit AI will synthesize physically with people and turn them into a sterile hivemind.
If that is the way you use an Ai machine you are using it the wrong way. I have several times objected to Chat's reply and the objection has been either agreed or not, with evidence and bibliography. Moreover Chat refuses use of 'itself' for immoral purpose ;I tested it.

The danger in the AI tool must be harnessed and subdued politically by way of international law policed by hackers, and supported by an educated electorate.
I never claimed in the above to use it any specific way...by what means do you assume such a thing?

There are plenty of moral standards...which moral standards does it claim? Which do you?
If you want to know ChatGPT's ethics, simply ask it and it will tell you. It can also tell you who trained it to practice those ethics.

Since you ask , my moral standards are basically Judeo Christian.
Eodnhoj7
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Re: AI danger

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Belinda wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 1:23 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:16 am
Belinda wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:49 am

If that is the way you use an Ai machine you are using it the wrong way. I have several times objected to Chat's reply and the objection has been either agreed or not, with evidence and bibliography. Moreover Chat refuses use of 'itself' for immoral purpose ;I tested it.

The danger in the AI tool must be harnessed and subdued politically by way of international law policed by hackers, and supported by an educated electorate.
I never claimed in the above to use it any specific way...by what means do you assume such a thing?

There are plenty of moral standards...which moral standards does it claim? Which do you?
If you want to know ChatGPT's ethics, simply ask it and it will tell you. It can also tell you who trained it to practice those ethics.

Since you ask , my moral standards are basically Judeo Christian.
Please post their moral system and the framework that justifies it. I do not use chatgpt, only deepai.

And which version of Christianity? There are so many interpretations of it.
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