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Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 11:33 pm
Considering the fact that the Republican Party currently seems to be the primary favorite of neo-Nazis and white supremacists, and the Democratic Party less so, does that mean that I should vote Republican because they are actually anti slavery and the Democrats are actually pro slavery? I'm confused.

I'll save others the trouble.

Your premise is bullshit.

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 12:12 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 11:33 pm
Considering the fact that the Republican Party currently seems to be the primary favorite of neo-Nazis and white supremacists, and the Democratic Party less so, does that mean that I should vote Republican because they are actually anti slavery and the Democrats are actually pro slavery? I'm confused.

I'll save others the trouble.

Your premise is bullshit.

Do most neo-Nazis and white supremacists vote Republican, or do most vote Democrat? I've seen more clatter from self-described neo-Nazis favoring Republicans than Democrats. Is that not the case?

MikeNovack wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 8:36 pm

You gotta look for the root, not the leaves.
The leaves are the expression of the root.

The root is, The Democrats Party Hates America.
Loving slavery is the proof, slavery that required the principles of the constitution to end slavery, despite the Democrat's love of slavery.

Blacks are catching on, now that Democrats are pandering to illegals.
Blacks are comprehending how unhappy the empty promises of Democrats have made them.

(edited to cut down on pronouns, for clarity)

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 12:27 am
Do most neo-Nazis and white supremacists vote Republican, or do most vote Democrat? I've seen more clatter from self-described neo-Nazis favoring Republicans than Democrats. Is that not the case?

Gary, I haven't made myself clear.
Here, let's try again.
Until you explain how you separate spirituality from the rest of life, I don't answer your questions.
Are we clear on that?

Because for you Gary, that is the issue, not your questions about other topics that you somehow shield from spirituality.

Spirituality is your issue.

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 12:32 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 12:27 am
Do most neo-Nazis and white supremacists vote Republican, or do most vote Democrat? I've seen more clatter from self-described neo-Nazis favoring Republicans than Democrats. Is that not the case?

Gary, I haven't made myself clear.
Here, let's try again.
Until you explain how you separate spirituality from the rest of life, I don't answer your questions.
Are we clear on that?

Because for you Gary, that is the issue, not your questions about other topics that you somehow shield from spirituality.

Spirituality is your issue.

I am mostly agnostic when it comes to questions about "spirituality" because I see no way of verifying or discerning the truth of such matters. On the other hand, I see ways to verify that something is 10 feet long or that something can be observed and measured by the sciences. If it's observable and measurable by the sciences, then I'm not necessarily agnostic about it. If it's not observable or measurable by the sciences, then I won't pretend to know something about it. If that means I "separate spirituality from the rest of life" according to you, then I'm really not sure how to answer. Maybe you do. Is being admittedly agnostic concerning things having to do with "spirituality" effectively "separating" it from the rest of life? Instead, I should pretend to have answers to such things so that I don't "separate" it?

That's a paragraph.

Here's a good essay

The Left's Worst Political Miscalculation
https://townhall.com/columnists/chrissa ... n-n2678106

Why are so many Latino Americans walking away from the Democrat Party?

Their preferred explanation is that Latino voters have somehow changed. Mine is simpler: Latinos haven't changed; the Democrat Party has.

And that’s why Democrats are in a panic. Because their leftist political movement has always been built on division.

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:03 am Here's a good essay

The Left's Worst Political Miscalculation
https://townhall.com/columnists/chrissa ... n-n2678106

The guy at Walker’s link wrote:The Left's Worst Political Miscalculation
Chris Salcedo

I recently joined my dear friend …

… Latino Americans … the Liberty-Loving Latino … Latino voters … Latinos … Latino voters … Latino men … Hispanic Americans … Latinos … Latino men … Latino voters …

… we discussed how often Democrats reduce people to demographic categories.

Wow! This guy Chris Salcedo projects without a trace of self-awareness or irony!

They’re wearing Team Algae T-Shirts.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jeT2Lss2dcc

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 11:33 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 8:46 pm

MikeNovack wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 8:36 pm Walker, are you truly blind to the reality that the REPUBLICAN Party today doesn't stand for what it did in 1860, 1880, 1900, 1920, 1940, 1960, 1980, etc.? American political parties aren't representing fixed ideologies but instead shifting coalitions of voters.

Let's say that's how it is. Let's believe you.

Who, then, is responsible for owning slaves, for the Confederacy, for Jim Crow, for the KKK, for turning the hoses on the civil rights marchers, and for betraying the black family in America? It was never the Republicans, of course; they were the party of anti-slavery, of Lincoln, of desegregation, of opposition to Jim Crow, against the New Deal and subsidizing single motherhood and fatherless homes, and so on. And now you say it isn't the Democrats, either?

So nobody is responsible for those things. Things happened, and nobody did them. Neither party can be blamed. This is what you would have to be saying. Are you saying that?

If not, at whose feet do you lay responsibility for slavery, the KKK, the opposition to civil rights, Jim Crow...and so on?

Considering the fact that the Republican Party currently seems to be the primary favorite of neo-Nazis and white supremacists, and the Democratic Party less so,

That's the story the Dems want you to believe, of course. Their own exculpation depends on them forgetting or not knowing the entire history of the Democrat Party, and then shifting it to the Republicans. Then they can "boo" and "hiss," and you'll think they're no longer racist.

But why should you? The Republicans didn't switch. And the Dems kept all but two of the "Dixiecrat" racists in their own party. And which party is still obsessed with race? It's not the Republicans. It's the Democrats. And which party runs all those major cities, like Chicago, LA, NY, Baltimore, Minneapolis, and so on, in which racial inequality is so persistent? The cities aren't being controlled by Republicans, and in many cases, haven't even had a Republican mayor for several decades. And which party is desperate to make sure that you forget everything that happened before around 1970?

So why should you exculpate the Democrats from what they have historically done, and what they are still doing right now, and instead take their protestations of "anti-racism" at face value? Why believe the perpetrators?

mickthinks wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 12:46 pm
Wow! This guy Chris Salcedo projects without a trace of self-awareness or irony!

Here's some Democrat Logic rebounding ...

That guy is a proud Latino.
Criticism of him makes you a racist.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 2:46 am

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 2:25 am From the link about Democrats ...

“Folks, if you can’t love your country now — on the cusp of its 250th birthday, with its unparalleled beauty, its roaring stock market, its mighty military, and World Cup visitors from all around the world professing their love for her — then, well, you might just be a Democrat.”

I know many Democrats AND Republicans... and NONE of them are as hyped up on toxic spew as you are. There ARE many things we all want in common, and thankfully, most people seem to be coming around to see the truths that are in front of us. But there are still people like you, clinging to the Trump Clown Car as it goes in circles with flat tires. Even his own party in Congress is pulling away from him. Eventually, all of his endeavors fail. There's a reason for that, and it's not other people.

People hate Trump.
Team Algae hates MAGA.
Trump, is MAGA.

People who hate Trump, are on Team Algae …
… and quite proud of it.

In defense of Team Algae:

Perhaps God is in defense of the innocent Algae of nature.

After all, Algae is a natural life-form not created by man yet still possesses the know-how to just want a home of its own while being attacked by man. Poor, victimized Algae.

In defense, God is foiling the selfish efforts of man who try to impose his own notions of beauty upon the natural world … like humans who try to change the climate made possible by God’s gifts of stored energy.

And another gift from God, is the capacity granted to man to unlock that which moves the universe, which is energy, instead of just running from forest fires forever, like the critters.

(continued)

The Algae comes from the Potomac.
They say there was a big shit-show on the Potomac early on in the year.
A broken sewer pipe made mans' presence known to nature for a month or two, which is a lot of time considering the situation.

Perhaps Team Algae recognizes that Algae is merely seeking refuge from mankind's corruption of the environment.
Then that wouldn't be a humanitarian effort Team Algae is conducting.

It would be an Algaeitarian effort.

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2026 10:22 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2026 10:16 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:30 pm I commented to AI

Yes, we've noticed you becoming one of those people. Never mind, it isn't a massive loss.

The only reason is because it makes using your old standby, more difficult.

Your old standby is to refute facts, and obvious implications, by attacking the source of information.

If that's a fact, please show me doing so with a quote.