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Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:40 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:17 am
Oh give it a rest. He obviously got sick of a crazy clucking chook who had temper tantrums like a little toddler and demanded to be indulged 24/7.
Clearly you didn't 'love him unconditionally' or you still would you ridiculous person, and you certainly wouldn't be defaming him all over an internet forum. That's just bullying because you know he will never defend himself.

Signed, Harbal's ex wife.

Oh what a surprise, just another typical predictable response, sorry to have kept you waiting for ages to pounce.

I love Harbal unconditionally. If either you or Harbal chooses not to believe me, then that's not my problem.

It could maybe be the case that both you or Harbal don't actually understand the true and real meaning of what is unconditional love. Too bad, just keep on clucking, your only jealous that I got to experience 2 blissful years with him.

He's got nothing to defend, everything I have spoken out has been the absolute honest truth, all of it. How can he defend something that's he already knows to be truth.

You have zero evidence of what went on in our relationship, so your not qualified to judge.

But do carry on with your childish tantrums over this saga if it gives your life any sense of purpose or meaning, it's no skin of my nose.

Fairy is HOT as F ...I can have any man I want, whenever I want, men adore me. Not that I want a man right now, if at all, but if the time ever comes around again, then what will be will be.

I'm just so grateful that H was able to spare two years of his life for me. It's a shame it couldn't have been for the rest of our lives, but hey, I cannot force him to love me unconditionally like I love him unconditionally. He left me, and I totally let him leave, out of my unconditional love for him.

I've seen the photos

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:04 am
I've seen the photos

So have I

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:03 am Women are Crazy. Men are Stupid.
Women are complicated, while men are simple.

Men become indeed somewhat stupid when we see an attractive woman that we want to have sex with. Once we got what we wanted, the stupidity will be gone too: Post-nut clarity

That is why men may smash and dash:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/smash_and_dash

An act of sex after which one immediately leaves.

"I'm not looking for a long-term relationship: I'm okay with an occasional smash and dash."

If the woman was crazy already, this will only make her crazier.

godelian wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:02 am

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:18 am The psychological 'insights' of a man who hates women and has to pay for sex ...

PsyHacks: All men PAY: the more she likes you, the bigger the discount

There's this fantastic scene in the movie Jack Reacher where Jack played by Tom Cruise is approached by a very attractive young woman in a bar -- I'll put a link to the scene in the description below -- she makes it very clear that she would like to leave with him and he replies that he can't afford her when she indignantly responds that she's not a hooker he replies that well then he really can't afford her.

Jack Reacher (2012) - "I can't afford you" Bar Scene

If you cannot convince a man to pay even one dollar to you, then you have failed as a woman. In that case, you are not even a hooker.

I love how your defense of your own behavior, is to aim more hatred at women, using movies from a country you hate. IOW you explain your own moral behavior or lack of it by reference to the behavior of others, shirking your own responsibility for your actions. You get to say what you said to accelefine because you assume that men won't pay her for sex. Her situation - which you've hallucinated - justifies your within Islam immoral behavior in relation to her.

And then notice how this guy frames the interactions between men and women as payment, a transactional view that does not fit Islam.

The religion choice seems to be one of convenience: he can have sex in exhange for payment in a non-Muslim country and ignore Islam whenever he chooses to.

Gotta keep up with Hollywood, though Jack Reacher, a fictional character for God's sake, never paid for sex.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:14 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:04 am
I've seen the photos

So have I

I almost feel sorry for him. Imagine trying to get away from a vengeful loon like you who uses the internet to post revenge porn and pretends it's out of 'unconditional love'. I'm pretty sure you are confusing 'love' with 'hate'. If it's not illegal then it should be.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:30 am using movies from a country you hate.

I don't hate any country. I just believe that some ruling mafias must prove that they are willing to risk their lives and die for what they believe in.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:30 am You get to say what you said to accelefine because you assume that men won't pay her for sex. Her situation - which you've hallucinated - justifies your within Islam immoral behavior in relation to her.

A man must pay mahr (sign-on bonus) and later on nafaqah (regular living expenses) in Islam prior to having sex with a chaste woman. But then again, the minimum mahr (sign-on bonus) is just 10 dirham (around $10) and it doesn't even need to be a ring. If you can't get the man to pay that to you, then as a woman you are a biological failure.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:30 am Gotta keep up with Hollywood, though Jack Reacher, a fictional character for God's sake, never paid for sex.

As he said, he couldn't afford it.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:14 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:04 am
I've seen the photos

So have I

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:04 am Put it this way. You were made for each other

That's right. A match made in heaven. I agree.

While I miss his physical presence. He's forever etched within my heart forever. I'm just so happy and grateful for ever experiencing the good fortune of having once had him and lost him physically, and while that's just life, in my heart and mind he is with me always, because he meant so much to me.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:42 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:14 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:04 am
I've seen the photos

So have I

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:04 am Put it this way. You were made for each other

That's right. A match made in heaven. I agree.

While I miss his physical presence. He's forever etched within my heart forever. I'm just so happy and grateful for ever experiencing the good fortune of having once had him and lost him physically, and while that's just life, in my heart and mind he is with me always, because he meant so much to me.

You talk such a load of hogwash.

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:39 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:14 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:04 am
I've seen the photos

So have I

I almost feel sorry for him. Imagine trying to get away from a vengeful loon like you who uses the internet to post revenge porn and pretends it's out of 'unconditional love'. I'm pretty sure you are confusing 'love' with 'hate'. If it's not illegal then it should be.

I too feel sorry for him, desiring to have a woman in his life, only to discover, she's perhaps not quite what he was expecting. So then yeah imagine finally getting a woman after wanting one, and being with her for two years, then thinks it's a good idea to dump her like she was a piece of trash, all because he couldn't be bothered or make the effort to handle her moods and emotions. I too feel sorry for a man like that, gosh I must have been an enormous disappointment to him. So of course he did the right thing to dump me in the trash can, I was of no longer of any use to him was I?

I mean what sane man wouldn't just throw away someone who didn't quite fit with his particular conditioned model of what he was actually looking for in a woman.

That said, I love him unconditionally, my love for him will never change. I am so happy for him now that he is finally free from the ''awful sorry state'' he must have felt while being around someone like me who ever dares to express her true and real emotions and moods in front of him.

While I despise men who mess with women's emotions, I'm not going to hold back from giving back as good as I got. That's just my nature as a woman, that he possibly over-looked, in fact he's simply not as smart as he would like to think he is. I just played him at his own game. I hope this experience has taught him a valuable lesson. Maybe next time he'll not ever mess with a woman's emotions ever again.

I'm so happy he is finally at peace now, it must have been awful and such a sad and sorry pitiful experience for him.

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:39 am

I almost feel sorry for him. Imagine trying to get away from a vengeful loon like you

You've got it all wrong..You know absolutely nothing about our relationship dynamic. It's like you love to wallow in other peoples misery. I feel sorry for you.

I gave Harbal plenty of opportunities to leave me permanently... he could have left me permanently during those moments I gave the chance to leave me. But guess what, he could never find it in him to leave me, mainly due to the fact he actually liked being with me. Well that was up until the time he changed his mind and decided he didn't like being with me any more, so finally left me for good that time.

The thing is, I didn't care whether he wanted me or not, I'm happy living in my own skin. But while he continued to want me, I continued to want him too. And that's all there was to it.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:13 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:39 am

I almost feel sorry for him. Imagine trying to get away from a vengeful loon like you

.You know absolutely nothing about our relationship dynamic.

No one asked you. You just won't stop talking about it

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:50 am

You talk such a load of hogwash.

Not really, Harbal is a beautiful human being. His heart is in the right place. I could see through his shortcomings to be nothing more than what most older people our age are not immune to, that is their past mental baggage carried over from past experiences of mental and physical trauma's.

I was fully aware and awake to the understanding that he was terrified of his trauma being repeated with someone else. I could actually physically feel his pain body when I was with him. His pain body was really palpable for a sensitive being such as me. He wasn't properly healed from it, and it carried over into his next relationship with me. But I was willing to stick by him even though it was difficult to bear his pain sometimes. Seriously, I could feel his pain so bad, that it was starting to depress me. Then he'd see me depressed and would then just start comparing me to his experience with his x wife, which made me even more depressed.

Having said all that...I absolutely adored H ..he made my spine tingle all over. I've never been with a man who was able to make me feel the way he made me feel. I was in sheer bliss most of the time I was with him. But then I couldn't control my emotions and moods, I'm not perfect, I'm not the type to supress anything I am feeling within myself, it's all or nothing with me. Take me or leave me I don't care.

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:33 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:13 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:39 am

I almost feel sorry for him. Imagine trying to get away from a vengeful loon like you

.You know absolutely nothing about our relationship dynamic.

No one asked you. You just won't stop talking about it

You make a lot of assumptions about what you know nothing about.

And you won't stop listening to your assumptions being debunked. Yes, indeed, you love nothing more than to wallow in other peoples sad sorry states of misery.