Re: Kant
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:13 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:36 amWhether the assumption is assumed or not - you are still reading these very words.
The assumption caused them.
Actually the assumption did not strictly cause them alone, considering as assumed they are strictly "taken as is". Causality is an observation of connection, a looping of cause through itself, where cause variates into effect with effect being a cause in itself.
To say "emptiness" is a "cause" (when assumptions are fundamentally empty) is to say cause is fundamentally empty form and we are left with causality being a loop where emptiness is less of a cause but rather "form" as the voiding of emptiness is. Cause is subject to not just a loop in definition, as to describe causality requires the fallacy of circularity, but an actual form of a loop where:
1. The repitition of a thought, emotional experience or action creates a self referential pattern that forms the observer's perspective where the act of observation, in containing reality through a specific value system (as a continuum of certain looping qualties), effectively maintains both the identity of the observer while acting as a "filter" that determines how reality is assumed.
2. The containment of emptiness, or void, through form necessitates a circularity as self referentiality where even the forming of further loops is still an act of looping that is circular thus necessitating the nature of the loop as not just static form but a dynamic process conducive to what we can call "quality" where the subject/object dichotomy is connected through a reciprocality.
3. Quality, as a continuum akin to a dynamic state, necessitates not just reptition (as all repitition is foundationally what a continuum "is") but is "indefinite" or "infinite" in the respect it is continuous. This continuous nature, that which is "not seperate", further necessitates connection that is grounded in looping...thus all quality as both a static form and dynamic process is grounded in "the circle".
4. This can be observed within the cyclical rhythm in any good poetry or the manifestation of any "quality" art work where the artist is effectively intertwined with his or her creation. The same occurs with anyone being observed as a "natural" in some sport or athletic accomplishment or the intuitive beauty of self sacrifice in a selfless act or death. The subject and object are looped in such a manner where there is no distinction. This looping results in the inherent "form", the movements which compose reality (such as the action of an athlete, the words of a writer, the creation or a worker, or the guardianship of a warrior). "Emptiness" is thus contained through action with this action being the dynamic change which results in both form and is form.
Reality as assumed, is negated into form that encapsulates emptiness by form. Cause is thus form and assumption is less of a cause but effectively "formlessness" observed by a multiplicity of causes.
5. The nature of "cause" can be observed in language where language as a symbolic medium to further symbols references itself (in the case of this statement) and further phenomena outside itself. Language as "cause" through symbolism is once again...looping.
Linguistically we can observe this in prograganda "spinning" where a set of words are inverted or spun to "cause" a new set of perceptions in the populace...a new manner or interpreting or rather "measuring" reality, that forms it. This "spinning" connects one manner or interpretation to an entirely new, or rather different, one. But this requires a form of looping.
The act or spelling, or looping through connection various symbols, reflects this nature of causality as well where new words/sentences are created causing a new perception of reality.
Who says it's a definition? That's just how I use words.
It is a connection of assumptions that constitutes an underlying "form" which imprints the emptiness of both reality and the observer where emptiness is the quantum medium that connects both the observer and reality as "one".
Do you understand what a "problem" is? Or is that also just an "assumption".Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:50 pm Actually the symbol grounding problem is not well understood, if it was well understood it would not be a problem. The symbol is assumed as a variation of that which assumes observing the "I" existing through "many" "I" within the course of any dialogue as each symbol is a degree of the same "I", it is recipricol in nature...an object as the extension of a subject (and vice versa), the subjectification of subjectivity as objective, and the objectification of the objective as requiring subjectivity... thus it is inherently grounded in a basic fallacy of circularity according to standard logic.
Problems are disconnected assumptions, thus the nature of analysis (by form alone) creates problems and solutions to these problems under further problems. Do you know what a problem is?
Of course, you have hit rock bottom now. This is Philosophy for you. You can carry on writing pointless posts. Or write a book.
You are assuming rock bottom is a bad thing, but there is little evidence this is strictly the case in light of religious or philosophical literature (zen buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity) as well as empirical history or even subjective experience...as a matter of fact rock bottom is strictly what it is...rock bottom, an empty state of awareness where reality is assumed as is.
In seperate respects there is no rock bottom, that is a statement of relation. Any "bottom" is just the statement of some comparison to another apex or height...but there are so many "heights" of different sorts and varieties that rock bottom is inherently ever present in all endeavors and is fundamentally natural...are bodies are composed of minerals (rocks) after all which is a metaphor in and of itself.
At the very least you understand why a degree in philosophy is worth fuckall in 2019.
A degree period "is worth fickell in 2019"...the university system is a bubble economy protecting corporate interests which the corporations maintaining power by providing addictions to various distractions through a dopamine loop.
That "programming" you do that provides a better means to "get a better cup or coffee", a new "movie to entertain people", etc... is merely a way of dealing with dopamine problems in the general populace by giving them more and more
In these respects programming is about as valuable as a drug dealer is valuable to his clients.
And yes, you will say this conversation is occurring through a computer, but clients kill dealers all the time...it is the ghost in the machine, a self destructive death force archetype programmed in the foundation of all "dopamine hit value systems." And like all dopamine hit systems it provides a false sense of security and acts as an artificial womb, or rather a fortress which acts beyond a natural rhythm or duration.
Technology is just a womb, but looking within any ancient mythos of a feminine dominance over a masculine life force. (specifically the Egyptian myth of "set" in this case) we see an "apocalyptic" or "revealing" event where the God breaks forth from the oppressive limits of materiality and wreaks havoc on the same force which oppressed it.
You fail to understand you are just incubating a generation of nihilistic destroyers...but please continue your work, it is very important the new generation can transfer dick pics to strangers on the other side of the world.