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marjoramblues wrote:

chaz wyman wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote: No, you can't even begin to understand, throughout my life I noticed he was just like CHAZ; Always right!!! No matter WHAT? When I was 4 years old and he physically abused me,


You are such an odious little wanker. How dare you compare me to an abuser! You must be really fucked up!

You need to get a grip buddy.

FYI - when you say I "am always right", basically you are talking about yourself.
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Chaz and SOB

Probably placing myself in the firing line here; but I don't need to be gunned down by either of you formidable beings.
However, I do need to say that - at first I didn't feel that Chaz was being portrayed as an abuser. Only that SOB reads him as having to be right all the time, and against him, always.

I could have interpreted it differently, from Chaz's perspective. SOB's story linked Chaz with his abusive father and the phrase 'always right' - no matter what. This phrase was repeated throughout the narrative. SOB asked if we could start to see a pattern.

Chaz was placed in an absolute and unchanging position. And yes, the same could be said about SOB, absolutely. Always him against the world, seemingly: ' Unlike all the rest of the people of the world, I do not fear truth'. Whatever that means.

This exchange can no longer be seen as just a 'sidebar'; it is a thread derailed - a train wreck. A pattern ?

artisticsolution wrote:Hi SOB,

Here's hoping you get well soon.
This was demeaning and uncalled for, in order for you to place yourself above, which is your compensatory measure in coping with your self esteem. Instead of this, I shall give you what you need below. Though it should come from within.

In this case I see, getting well as relative, as I'm definitely better than a lot of people. In that I have never had any serious entanglements with law enforcement, no record to speak of, except traffic violations, I am and have been well enough to function.

As far as what has happened to you in your past, I know it's hard to fathom...but you must forgive your father for your own sake and move on. Too much punishment you put yourself through by hanging on to your abusive past.
No It's not hard to fathom, it's a ridiculous christian way, that you believe. I am a man of science, I'll trust my psychologist, thank you!


But this is exactly why I hate psychology. It makes us focus too much on the thought we have been 'harmed.' It almost becomes a game of "who feels the most pain". Causing us to glorify our abusive past and totally devalue our 'happier' side. Almost making our positive side unworthy of any deep insight.

I feel N does this too much in his general tone. I also feel that is why he is more popular than K. Because N uses anger to make his point...it is cool in a militant way. K does not do this...K's message is basically the same...only he doesn't blame a particular group. He simply makes a statement and says, "what are your thoughts?' Leaving you to imagine much more and perhaps take on much more personal responsibility. Unlike N...he doesn't give you a way out. Which is what being powerful is about i.e. not able to give our weaknesses power and instead confront our thoughts head on without feeling like a victim. N on the other hand....tells us who is to blame for our problems. He tells us we are victims of Christianity. It is almost as if he chides or goads his followers into having no choice to believe him ...or else be part of the 'problem'. I believe N is popular because he is sort of a 'white knight' or savior for victims of Christianity.
Here's what I promised you above. This bit I've highlighted in purple is great, not that I necessarily agree, because I haven't read either one, but I like the way you've proceeded with your rational thought process, good job! I seldom hand out kudos because their focus is on that which need not be changed, it is good in and of itself, I see that their is no need to waste time mentioning it, rather celebrate it. I understand that this could be a good thing to change, to support those of need. And I think that it may also stem from the fear of appearing weak, and that actually there is strength in not fearing appearances, this has been a hard lesson to learn, in light of my history.

bobevenson wrote:You people are all fucked up and need to read "The Ouzo Prophecy" to achieve any meaning in your pathetic lives.

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:You people are all fucked up and need to read "The Ouzo Prophecy" to achieve any meaning in your pathetic lives.

Enter the comic relief! You know I'm sorry I ever considered you a threat, you're just a clown, our court jester! Because every time you interject this kind of crap, I always find myself uncontrollably laughing at you!

bobevenson wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:You people are all fucked up and need to read "The Ouzo Prophecy" to achieve any meaning in your pathetic lives.

Enter the comic relief! You know I'm sorry I ever considered you a threat, you're just a clown, our court jester! Because every time you interject this kind of crap, I always find myself uncontrollably laughing at you!

Jesus Christ, I can't even get thru one of your incredibly pompous and vebose posts without half-falling asleep. At least the book of Revelation and "The Ouzo Prophecy" present material that is distilled into the very essence of truth itself, O my brothers in tribulation!

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:You people are all fucked up and need to read "The Ouzo Prophecy" to achieve any meaning in your pathetic lives.

Enter the comic relief! You know I'm sorry I ever considered you a threat, you're just a clown, our court jester! Because every time you interject this kind of crap, I always find myself uncontrollably laughing at you!

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:Jesus Christ, I can't even get thru one of your incredibly pompous and vebose posts without half-falling asleep. At least the book of Revelation and "The Ouzo Prophecy" present material that is distilled into the very essence of truth itself, O my brothers in tribulation!

bobevenson wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:You people are all fucked up and need to read "The Ouzo Prophecy" to achieve any meaning in your pathetic lives.

Enter the comic relief! You know I'm sorry I ever considered you a threat, you're just a clown, our court jester! Because every time you interject this kind of crap, I always find myself uncontrollably laughing at you!

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:Jesus Christ, I can't even get thru one of your incredibly pompous and vebose posts without half-falling asleep. At least the book of Revelation and "The Ouzo Prophecy" present material that is distilled into the very essence of truth itself, O my brothers in tribulation!

People who use smilies have hit rock bottom. People who use multiples of them are lower than whale shit, and that's at the bottom of the ocean!

bobevenson wrote:You people are all fucked up and need to read "The Ouzo Prophecy" to achieve any meaning in your pathetic lives.

SpheresOfBalance wrote:Enter the comic relief! You know I'm sorry I ever considered you a threat, you're just a clown, our court jester! Because every time you interject this kind of crap, I always find myself uncontrollably laughing at you!

bobevenson wrote:Jesus Christ, I can't even get thru one of your incredibly pompous and vebose posts without half-falling asleep. At least the book of Revelation and "The Ouzo Prophecy" present material that is distilled into the very essence of truth itself, O my brothers in tribulation!

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

bobevenson wrote:People who use smilies have hit rock bottom. People who use multiples of them are lower than whale shit, and that's at the bottom of the ocean!

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

reasonemotion wrote:It is obvious not one of you have any idea or experience of what SoB has told you.

Not a single one.

SoB... you throw pearls to Swine.


and you call yourselves intellectuals


SoB you only mistake here is you gave too much

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

reasonemotion wrote:It is obvious not one of you have any idea or experience of what SoB has told you.

Not a single one.

SoB... you throw pearls to Swine.


and you call yourselves intellectuals


SoB you only mistake here is you gave too much

As Popeye used to say: "I yam what I yam," And at this late stage in the game, I'm finally capable of, ever so slowly, understanding that it's their loss, if they find their abuse in my words, and need to hold me accountable, for their release, as their truth can only be found in their individual personal mirror.

bobevenson wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

reasonemotion wrote:It is obvious not one of you have any idea or experience of what SoB has told you.

Not a single one.

SoB... you throw pearls to Swine.


and you call yourselves intellectuals


SoB you only mistake here is you gave too much

As Popeye used to say: "I yam what I yam," And at this late stage in the game, I'm finally capable of, ever so slowly, understanding that it's their loss, if they find their abuse in my words, and need to hold me accountable, for their release, as their truth can only be found in their individual personal mirror.

What kind of bullshit is that???

SpheresOfBalance wrote:As Popeye used to say: "I yam what I yam," And at this late stage in the game, I'm finally capable of, ever so slowly, understanding that it's their loss, if they find their abuse in my words, and need to hold me accountable, for their release, as their truth can only be found in their individual personal mirror.

bobevenson wrote:What kind of bullshit is that???

SpheresOfBalance wrote:
You attempt to goad, er ah, I mean, you are a toad, aahhh, never mind, same thing!

reasonemotion wrote:It is obvious not one of you have any idea or experience of what SoB has told you.


SoB... you throw pearls to Swine.


and you call yourselves intellectuals


SoB your only mistake here is you gave too much

chaz wyman wrote:

reasonemotion wrote:It is obvious not one of you have any idea or experience of what SoB has told you.


SoB... you throw pearls to Swine.


and you call yourselves intellectuals


SoB your only mistake here is you gave too much

It is obvious you are mistaken.