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Dubious wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2026 5:19 am
You claimed "It's clear, then, that you haven't even read one biography of Marx".
Have you? Which one?
Marx was able to employ his analytical skills in defining how Capitalism operates,
How come he got everything wrong, then?
I never claimed to have read a biography on Marx. Evidently you have which supposedly establishes your view of him. I'm less interested in a biography then where in his theories he was successful and where he failed. It's a two-sided story but when you irrationally hate someone as you do Nietzsche and Marx the one side gets erased to favor yours.
The problem is not that Marx got everything wrong, that is simply contrary to the consensus; it's the fact that you got everything wrong about him.
So again indicate to me a biography of Marx where it stipulates that he was responsible for 120 million deaths! May the reason be why you can't name one is because you can't find one?
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2026 9:53 pm
A swimming pool is fine.
How about ten? At what point do you get all aggitated? And why?
Is owning a bank fine?
Of course.
If someone owns a bank, then they can pretty much pay off city officials and get their way.
That's illegal already. It's called "bribery."
What about when the Fabian Socialists own the bank? Is that better? Why?
Then Trump must be a Fabian socialist. He's been taking advantage of his political position to curry favor for his businesses like having meetings at Maralargo. His family has pocketed money from Secret Service agents paying to stay at his hotels. They've benefited from foreign investors investing in his real estate and cryptocurrency. He even sells merchandise like $400 dollar designer sneakers with political slogans. And there's granting pardons to some of his higher donors. He doesn't even try to hide it. The man is an unabashed shyster. He makes Fabian socialists look like saints.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2026 5:48 pm
Biographers? Well, they're mostly concerned with Marx's own life, not the impact of his delusions. But you can easily look up the statistics for yourself, and you'll find I've been very kind in my estimates.
For example,
R.J. Rummel’s Democide Studies: Political scientist Rudolph Rummel, who extensively researched government-sponsored mass murder, estimated that communist regimes killed about 148 million people between 1917 and 1987. (AI)
Most frequently, the states and events which are studied and included in death toll estimates are the Holodomor and the Great Purge in the Soviet Union, the Great Chinese Famine and the Cultural Revolution in the People's Republic of China, and the Cambodian genocide in Democratic Kampuchea (now Cambodia). Estimates of individuals killed range from a low of 10–20 million to as high as 148 million. (Wiki)
...and so! The outstanding question is...did Mr. Rummel's Democide Studies in any way implicate Marx as being the reason for these purges? If so, where in his studies is it indicated?
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2026 9:53 pm
A swimming pool is fine.
How about ten? At what point do you get all aggitated? And why?
Is owning a bank fine?
Of course.
If someone owns a bank, then they can pretty much pay off city officials and get their way.
That's illegal already. It's called "bribery."
What about when the Fabian Socialists own the bank? Is that better? Why?
Then Trump must be a Fabian socialist. He's been taking advantage of his political position to curry favor for his businesses like having meetings at Maralargo. His family has pocketed money from Secret Service agents paying to stay at his hotels. They've benefited from foreign investors investing in his real estate and cryptocurrency. He even sells merchandise like $400 dollar designer sneakers with political slogans. And there's granting pardons to some of his higher donors. He doesn't even try to hide it. The man is an unabashed shyster. He makes Fabian socialists look like saints.
...then there's the Trump bible. The stats are as follows:
The Trump Bible was reported to cost less than $3 per copy to print in China, based on trade records reviewed by the Associated Press. The retail price was much higher, at $59.99 for the standard edition.
If you mean a signed edition, that version was reported at $1,000, but the printing cost itself was still described as under $3 per Bible.
Dubious wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2026 1:47 am
The outstanding question is...did Mr. Rummel's Democide Studies in any way implicate Marx as being the reason for these purges? If so, where in his studies is it indicated?
The link is very simple: how many of the above were Marxists? Answer: all of them. The insane project of establishing a Marxist state is behind all the major Socialist blunders of the last century, and even those of this century.
Dubious wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2026 1:47 am
The outstanding question is...did Mr. Rummel's Democide Studies in any way implicate Marx as being the reason for these purges? If so, where in his studies is it indicated?
The link is very simple: how many of the above were Marxists? Answer: all of them. The insane project of establishing a Marxist state is behind all the major Socialist blunders of the last century, and even those of this century.
...not according to Marx's own writings. So again, did Rummel in any way mention Marx as being responsible or is that only YOUR theory?
Dubious wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2026 1:47 am
The outstanding question is...did Mr. Rummel's Democide Studies in any way implicate Marx as being the reason for these purges? If so, where in his studies is it indicated?
The link is very simple: how many of the above were Marxists? Answer: all of them. The insane project of establishing a Marxist state is behind all the major Socialist blunders of the last century, and even those of this century.
...not according to Marx's own writings.
Marx was dead long before they did their dirty work, so it's not even possible that Marx mentioned Stalin or Mao, or the rest of that nasty bunch. What they did, they did because of his ideas, which they tried to implement after he was already knowing better, in the place he earned for himself by being such a horrible person.
Check the timeline. And while you're at it, do read one of those biographies.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2026 2:06 am
The link is very simple: how many of the above were Marxists? Answer: all of them. The insane project of establishing a Marxist state is behind all the major Socialist blunders of the last century, and even those of this century.
...not according to Marx's own writings.
Marx was dead long before they did their dirty work, so it's not even possible that Marx mentioned Stalin or Mao, or the rest of that nasty bunch. What they did, they did because of his ideas, which they tried to implement after he was already knowing better, in the place he earned for himself by being such a horrible person.
Check the timeline. And while you're at it, do read one of those biographies.
You still can't give an adequate reply to your own assertions that Marx was responsible. No one you could name who would inculcate Marx in any of the crimes you accuse him of...not a single one in spite of all your assertions. So in short, you're the only one who choses to demonize Marx. Any true biographer would know better.
Aside which, are you really so incredibly dense, dishonest, naive and stupid in believing these assholes wouldn't have done what they did without ever having heard of Marx?
Marx, in spite of all his faults - not anywhere as extreme as you insist from pure malice - is by far much more valuable than any Jesus who may or may never have lived.
