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This could change the complexity of analysis.

“So, I will say what I know we all say and I will say over and over again, the United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people in defense of the NATO Alliance.”
- Kamala Harris, Vice President of the United States of America
DNC General Session

Ukraine isn’t defending the NATO Alliance.
NATO isn’t defending The Ukrainian people.

If the world is into appeasing Putin, which history proves isn't effective with these types, this isn't how to do it.
This might even sound like a taunt to Putin.

She doesn't know what's happening.
This woman could soon have her finger on the trigger.
Everybody duck, good luck!
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Sculptor wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:30 pm
iambiguous wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:15 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:13 pm

No one intervened during Hitlers genocidal killing spree in world war II ..well at least not until millions of people had been slaughtered.

Seems like history is repeating itself. Except this time around, thousands of long range nuclear weapons are at our disposal.

Dark days ahead.
Try to imagine if Hitler had been able to create a nuclear arsenal of his own back then. If he and the Nazis had won that particular arms race.

What gets tricky with Ukraine is that Putin has access to literally thousands of nuclear bombs. And we really do not know what is actually unfolding inside his head. It's not like Americans going to war in Iraq or Afghanistan.
It is exactly the same, except that Putin is a lot more restrained than the US's numerous invasions in the last 60 years.
The only difference seems to be the colour of the skins of the invaded which seems to get a bigger response for them being white rather than dark as they were in Iraq twice, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Laos, Cuba, Cambodia, Vietnam, Grenada.. etc.
With those other invasions, Putin and the Russians were back farther in the distance. With Ukraine, it could well become an actual showdown. The difference is enormous for those who want Putin defeated but recognize that they themselves might end up being vaporized if we push him too far. That was never really on the table before. At least going back to the Cuban Missile Crisis. And those who lived through that can tell you the difference more perspicuously.
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iambiguous wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:08 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:30 pm
iambiguous wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:15 pm

Try to imagine if Hitler had been able to create a nuclear arsenal of his own back then. If he and the Nazis had won that particular arms race.

What gets tricky with Ukraine is that Putin has access to literally thousands of nuclear bombs. And we really do not know what is actually unfolding inside his head. It's not like Americans going to war in Iraq or Afghanistan.
It is exactly the same, except that Putin is a lot more restrained than the US's numerous invasions in the last 60 years.
The only difference seems to be the colour of the skins of the invaded which seems to get a bigger response for them being white rather than dark as they were in Iraq twice, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Laos, Cuba, Cambodia, Vietnam, Grenada.. etc.
With those other invasions, Putin and the Russians were back farther in the distance. With Ukraine, it could well become an actual showdown. The difference is enormous for those who want Putin defeated but recognize that they themselves might end up being vaporized if we push him too far. That was never really on the table before. At least going back to the Cuban Missile Crisis. And those who lived through that can tell you the difference more perspicuously.
Yes, as I said in those other conflicts Russia stood back and did not interfere. America just need to learn the same lesson, simple.

Despite all the bluster and histrionics, Kennedy did the smart thing and gave in to Russia's request to remove NATO nukes in Turkey.
As long as the US an EU mind their own business in Ukraine then things will work out well.
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Walker wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:04 pm This could change the complexity of analysis.

“So, I will say what I know we all say and I will say over and over again, the United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people in defense of the NATO Alliance.”
- Kamala Harris, Vice President of the United States of America
DNC General Session

Ukraine isn’t defending the NATO Alliance.
NATO isn’t defending The Ukrainian people.

If the world is into appeasing Putin, which history proves isn't effective with these types, this isn't how to do it.
This might even sound like a taunt to Putin.

She doesn't know what's happening.
This woman could soon have her finger on the trigger.
Everybody duck, good luck!
Do not forget that every single woman alive in the world, was once inside a mans ball sack. .women are men, and men are women = (Woman) Therefore, cherish the counterpart of yourself as yourself always and forever as long as you both shall live.

Humans only fight and hate each other because they falsely believe they are the opposition, when in reality they are not, the difference is totally imagined, difference is not actually there in reality.

This imagined belief that we are separate is why I have personally chosen to live a solitary life, and so far it is the heaven I've always dreamed of.
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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:46 am
Walker wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:04 pm This could change the complexity of analysis.

“So, I will say what I know we all say and I will say over and over again, the United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people in defense of the NATO Alliance.”
- Kamala Harris, Vice President of the United States of America
DNC General Session

Ukraine isn’t defending the NATO Alliance.
NATO isn’t defending The Ukrainian people.

If the world is into appeasing Putin, which history proves isn't effective with these types, this isn't how to do it.
This might even sound like a taunt to Putin.

She doesn't know what's happening.
This woman could soon have her finger on the trigger.
Everybody duck, good luck!
Do not forget that every single woman alive in the world, was once inside a mans ball sack. .women are men, and men are women = (Woman) Therefore, cherish the counterpart of yourself as yourself always and forever as long as you both shall live.

Humans only fight and hate each other because they falsely believe they are the opposition, when in reality they are not, the difference is totally imagined, difference is not actually there in reality.

This imagined belief that we are separate is why I have personally chosen to live a solitary life, and so far it is the heaven I've always dreamed of.
You sound as clued into the reality of the thread topic, as Kamala.
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Sculptor wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:32 pm
Yes, as I said in those other conflicts Russia stood back and did not interfere. America just need to learn the same lesson, simple.

Despite all the bluster and histrionics, Kennedy did the smart thing and gave in to Russia's request to remove NATO nukes in Turkey.
As long as the US an EU mind their own business in Ukraine then things will work out well.
You have some strange fantasy notion that fairness applies to War, and World politics.

That probably because folks have the fairness gene.
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Wouldn’t it be absolutely hideous if what’s rattling around in Brandon’s head is … (“Ukraine, let that be a lesson not to mess with Kunter again! Cause I was getting sick and tired of that!”)

Brandon says to Taiwan, so sorry, you don’t belong to NATO either. So, like everyone else you can just sit back and watch Russian tanks line up to shoot holes in big buildings where people are just trying to make ends meet. Guess you should have joined NATO, huh?

Which raises the question. Did Taiwan ever rebuff Kunter? Never know what’s rattling around in Brandon’s head.

In the meantime, Taiwan is nervously looking at China and saying, oh crap. Is resistance really futile? Can we join NATO?

If the past is any indication, then in theoretical response to Taiwan's theoretical question ...

The brick-head mouthpiece with hair to match, snarkly uptalks to Taiwan, with an announcement to The American People and The World, that everyone has the opportunity to study geography and should avail themselves to be properly informed, ‘cause Taiwan isn’t in the North Atlantic.

Then, every Leftist media outlet seizes on it, and repeats the talking point,
Kamala cackles 'cause in her head she’s learning this only now after becoming VPOTUS and oh the irony,
and college students are quick to sniff out and repeat this appropriate litany to their professors, which these days is a ticket to catch the A-Train.

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John F. Kennedy’s philosophy:

A little nibble** here, a little nibble there, and pretty soon The Evil Empire*** has gobbled up the world, although Kennedy didn’t use that term that I know of, and Ronnie probably wasn’t that firm in his knowing at that time.

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*** for the fact checkers, that term was made popular after Kennedy, and Ronnie's views likely weren't firm enough for such absolutes at that point in time.
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Sculptor wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:30 pm

It is exactly the same, except that Putin is a lot more restrained than the US's numerous invasions in the last 60 years.
The only difference seems to be the colour of the skins of the invaded which seems to get a bigger response for them being white rather than dark as they were in Iraq twice, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Laos, Cuba, Cambodia, Vietnam, Grenada.. etc.

America absolutely leveled Iraq with the help of the UK.It's ironic seeing the West now condemn Putin for doing what they have done themselves.

Karma I mean Kamala is a bitch and then you die..

Oneness has no argument with itself, always be yourself the real fictional character, always live beneath the bottom line.

Or play the game of wack-a-mole. It's a fun game if you are endorsing it. It's fun to die. War Video games prepared you for this.

Films prepared you for this. ( Hunger Games)

Those who are not a conspiracy theorist are not paying attention.
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Kamala Harris could have said that, although she wouldn't used her own name.

In the primaries she would have used Brandon's old name.

Now, she would say Trump.
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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:48 am\


America absolutely leveled Iraq with the help of the UK.It's ironic seeing the West now condemn Putin for doing what they have done themselves.
If you want to start a chain of violence's cause and effect relating to justification, you'll need to track back to the very beginning of mankind. You will have lots of irony for your amusement.

To be of any benefit or relevance, folks should focus on the reality of now, the elements that comprise it, and future ramifications in other than one's personal or social preferences.

The critical crucial current point is: in the USA, the idiots are in charge ... now.

Now, innocents are being slaughtered and displaced.
This is quite clear. There is no murkiness to this.
No Iraq-type of murkiness.

So, Europe and others better find a way to heel Putin.

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I've noticed that European elites are hip to the cool image.
Hip to "acting," elite.

It's long been a satirical point.

Could be they just don't care about Ukraine, could be they are quite above the fray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZMoGyr1BFU
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Walker wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:21 am
If you want to start a chain of violence's cause and effect relating to justification, you'll need to track back to the very beginning of mankind. You will have lots of irony for your amusement.

To be of any benefit or relevance, folks should focus on the reality of now.
Typical conditioned knee jerk response.

Breaking news..There is only NOW!! where, right HERE.. NOW ..the Echoes of eternity sing to the choir of epiphany.

“Each cell of a living organism cooperates with the cell next to it. It does not need any sentiment or declarations of undying love to do so. Each cell is wise enough to know that if its neighbour goes, it also goes. The cells stick together not out of brotherhood, love and that kind of thing, but out of the urgent drive to survive. It is the same with us, but only in a larger scale. Soon we will all come to know one simple thing: if I try to destroy you, I will also be destroyed.”
― U. G. Krishnamurti


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Walker wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:10 am Kamala Harris could have said that, although she wouldn't used her own name.

In the primaries she would have used Brandon's old name.

Now, she would say Trump.
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DAM, you're posting irrelevancies.
It's not cute.

Life and death is a serious topic.

Putin does not respect life. Do you?
Distracting from Gary's serious topic is an indication that like Putin, you don't.

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Before you can venture philosophical answers you have to know the dualistic questions, and for that you need to know what’s happening now.

- In the presidential campaign, Brandon promised to destroy the petroleum industry in the United States.
- Brandon received more votes than any president in history.
- He has been shutting down the petroleum industry since his first day in office.
- This cause, has world-wide ripples.
- Who benefits from this?
- Not the United States.

- Living in a realm governed by force rather than fairness, Putin seized the opportunity to capitalize on the idiocy of what Brandon has been doing.
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Walker wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:01 pm DAM, you're posting irrelevancies.
It's not cute.

Life and death is a serious topic.

Putin does not respect life. Do you?
Why do you expect human beings to respect life..when it is clear, even the universe itself has absolutely no respect for life.

God is an earthquake..life is creating bodies that are fragile and susceptible to breaking at the slightest pressure, capable of feeling the most insideous excrutiating debilitating and crippling pain and suffering...yeah, that's the work of an intelliegent creator isn't it...not!

There's nothing running the show...it's a driverless train always in collision with itself...it's one bumper car that just spins in circles infinitely for eternity....if intelligence exists, it is the realisation that the universe does not care one iota about your opinion, and that reality is meaningless, and pointless and purposeless...to then go on to create more stupidity is stupidy, the cure is the disease.. Only stupidity would want this mindless, brainless unintelligent existence...Intelligence wouldn't touch it with a barge pole if it had the choice.

The world is the way it is because life chooses to make it that way...life loves to lay it's eggs in shit, then are forced to live the consequences of it's choices, which are to lay eggs in shit and call it love. You make your choices and pay the prices.

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Walker wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:29 am
Sculptor wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:32 pm
Yes, as I said in those other conflicts Russia stood back and did not interfere. America just need to learn the same lesson, simple.

Despite all the bluster and histrionics, Kennedy did the smart thing and gave in to Russia's request to remove NATO nukes in Turkey.
As long as the US an EU mind their own business in Ukraine then things will work out well.
You have some strange fantasy notion that fairness applies to War, and World politics.

That probably because folks have the fairness gene.
There is not the slightest hint of fairness suggested. Look to your own genes.
The point is that people get fed up and decide to sue for peace.
Either Biden gets a bullet or Putin gets a bullet, or they both chew the fat.
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