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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

Immanuel Can wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:The ones who matter are the 30% who do not.

So 70-80% of the people don't matter to you? And you anticipate we'll all just agree with that?

But you've also forgotten that those 20% -30% are still body-dysmorphic, troubled and mentally unhealthy. Many are inclined to suicide, even. But liberals will deny them any help too, and tell them to "normalize" their condition instead -- not because they know it's "good" for the dysmorphic, but just so liberals can feel good about themselves.

In other words, liberalism cares nothing for 100% of the body-dysmorphic sufferers.

You seem to spend your whole existence poking your snout into things that don't concern you. You must be the most gigantic crashing bore to those around you. Just saying.

You don't know that, IC could have a job that deals with these people, or he could know several. Just because you don't care about anyone else, doesn't mean that no-one else cares about others.

thedoc wrote:You don't know that, IC could have a job that deals with these people, or he could know several.

Heh. As a matter of fact...

thedoc wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

Immanuel Can wrote: So 70-80% of the people don't matter to you? And you anticipate we'll all just agree with that?

But you've also forgotten that those 20% -30% are still body-dysmorphic, troubled and mentally unhealthy. Many are inclined to suicide, even. But liberals will deny them any help too, and tell them to "normalize" their condition instead -- not because they know it's "good" for the dysmorphic, but just so liberals can feel good about themselves.

In other words, liberalism cares nothing for 100% of the body-dysmorphic sufferers.

You seem to spend your whole existence poking your snout into things that don't concern you. You must be the most gigantic crashing bore to those around you. Just saying.

You don't know that, IC could have a job that deals with these people, or he could know several. Just because you don't care about anyone else, doesn't mean that no-one else cares about others.

I care a lot more than that slimy reptilian creature does.

Immanuel Can wrote:

thedoc wrote:You don't know that, IC could have a job that deals with these people, or he could know several.

Heh. As a matter of fact...

Don't worry IC, I think we could have quite an interesting conversation, as long as you were willing to dumb it down to something that I could understand. I'm guessing that is VT's biggest problem that she can't understand what you are saying, so she dis's it.

thedoc wrote:

Immanuel Can wrote:

thedoc wrote:You don't know that, IC could have a job that deals with these people, or he could know several.

Heh. As a matter of fact...

Don't worry IC, I think we could have quite an interesting conversation, as long as you were willing to dumb it down to something that I could understand. I'm guessing that is VT's biggest problem that she can't understand what you are saying, so she dis's it.

Why don't you just suck his dick while you are about it?

thedoc wrote:

Immanuel Can wrote:

thedoc wrote:You don't know that, IC could have a job that deals with these people, or he could know several.

Heh. As a matter of fact...

Don't worry IC, I think we could have quite an interesting conversation, as long as you were willing to dumb it down to something that I could understand. I'm guessing that is VT's biggest problem that she can't understand what you are saying, so she dis's it.

I'll bet we could, too. Heck, I think it would be a blast to have a beer with Henry too, and he types mostly in *shrugs.*

Immanuel Can wrote:
I'll bet we could, too. Heck, I think it would be a blast to have a beer with Henry too, and he types mostly in *shrugs.*

Both of them together? You're a vey naughty boy, Immanuel.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:Without the ability to understand the conditions of the study (if their ever was one), or to know to whom the study was directed, and where, the numbers are meaningless.

Dunno if you have checked Mr Can's sources, but so far he has treated us to articles from:
1. The Wall Street journal
Part of News Corps, owned by Rupert Murdoch: "In anticipation of US midterm elections, News Corp. donated $1 million to the Republican Governors Association in June 2010. The move was criticised by Democrats, who said this was evidence of News Corp's media outlets conservative leanings." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corporation by Paul McHugh ("His stands on sexuality, gender, and medical treatment for transgender individuals have been controversial. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._McHugh )
2. The New Atlantis.
"Writing for National Review, editor Adam Keiper described The New Atlantis as being written from a "particularly American and conservative way of thinking about both the blessings and the burdens of modern science and technology." New Atlantis authors and bioethicists publishing in other journals have also similarly referred to The New Atlantis as being written from a social conservative stance which utilizes religion." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_A ... _(journal) The article was co-written by Paul McHugh.
3. The National Post
"When the Post launched, its editorial stance was conservative. It advocated a "unite-the-right" movement..." and "Politically, the Post has retained a conservative editorial stance..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Post
And 4. CNSnews.
"CNSNews.com (formerly known as Cybercast News Service) is a politically conservative American news and commentary website founded by L. Brent Bozell III and owned by Media Research Center, Bozell's Reston, Virginia-based organization." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNSNews.com
It's about Paul McHugh.
Bit of a theme, suggesting that Mr Can is very selective in his reading and confirming, as many suspect, that he is unbalanced.

uwot wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:Without the ability to understand the conditions of the study (if their ever was one), or to know to whom the study was directed, and where, the numbers are meaningless.

Dunno if you have checked Mr Can's sources, but so far he has treated us to articles from:
1. The Wall Street journal
Part of News Corps, owned by Rupert Murdoch: "In anticipation of US midterm elections, News Corp. donated $1 million to the Republican Governors Association in June 2010. The move was criticised by Democrats, who said this was evidence of News Corp's media outlets conservative leanings." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corporation by Paul McHugh ("His stands on sexuality, gender, and medical treatment for transgender individuals have been controversial. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._McHugh )
2. The New Atlantis.
"Writing for National Review, editor Adam Keiper described The New Atlantis as being written from a "particularly American and conservative way of thinking about both the blessings and the burdens of modern science and technology." New Atlantis authors and bioethicists publishing in other journals have also similarly referred to The New Atlantis as being written from a social conservative stance which utilizes religion." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_A ... _(journal) The article was co-written by Paul McHugh.
3. The National Post
"When the Post launched, its editorial stance was conservative. It advocated a "unite-the-right" movement..." and "Politically, the Post has retained a conservative editorial stance..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Post
And 4. CNSnews.
"CNSNews.com (formerly known as Cybercast News Service) is a politically conservative American news and commentary website founded by L. Brent Bozell III and owned by Media Research Center, Bozell's Reston, Virginia-based organization." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNSNews.com
It's about Paul McHugh.
Bit of a theme, suggesting that Mr Can is very selective in his reading and confirming, as many suspect, that he is unbalanced.

It's no surprise that Mr. Can only reads fascistically included news. Who'da thought!!!

God is obviously a fee paying nazi.

Joe, a white man, sez he's black, sez he 'feels' like a black man, sez he's a black man in a white man's body. He darkens his skin, flattens his nose, crimps his hair.

Is Joe black or deluded?


Stan, a black man, sez he's white, sez he 'feels' like a white man, sez he's a white man in a black man's body. He bleaches his skin, opts for a european nose, straightens his hair.

Is Stan white or deluded?


Lou, a man, sez he's a woman, sez he 'feels' like a woman, sez he's a woman in a man's body. He chemically, hormonally, surgically, alters himself to appear as a woman.

Is Lou a woman or deluded?

henry quirk wrote:Joe, a white man, sez he's black, sez he 'feels' like a black man, sez he's a black man in a white man's body. He darkens his skin, flattens his nose, crimps his hair.

Is Joe black or deluded?


Stan, a black man, sez he's white, sez he 'feels' like a white man, sez he's a white man in a black man's body. He bleaches his skin, opts for a european nose, straightens his hair.

Is Stan white or deluded?


Lou, a man, sez he's a woman, sez he 'feels' like a woman, sez he's a woman in a man's body. He chemically, hormonally, surgically, alters himself to appear as a woman.

Is Lou a woman or deluded?

I'm a tall man in a short man's body. I demand surgery to lengthen my legs, at government expense, of course.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:It's no surprise that Mr. Can only reads fascistically included news.

So your belief is this: "any conservative source of news or research is simply lying. So is any American one. So is any source that gave money to a political cause the Left doesn't like. And Johns Hopkins is a fascist organization, not a medical research facility and hospital."

You won't check the truth of the facts; you'll just criticize the origin of the statement, based on your perception of its nationality, political orientation, or worse -- whether or not it tells you what you already want to believe....

Okay, I guess. One can't argue with "logic" like that.

Mel,

HA!

I fully endorse (but will not pay for) your skeletal lengthening. You just wanna be taller, not deny reality itself. Start slow...try shoe lifts and stilts first.

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Mannie,

Of course Hobbes derides your sources...only soicialists, commies, lefties, and other communitarians tell the truth...any one, every one, else is lyin' scum (like you and me).

henry quirk wrote: Mannie,

Of course Hobbes derides your sources...only soicialists, commies, lefties, and other communitarians tell the truth...any one, every one, else is lyin' scum (like you and me).

Darn right! Those 'mericans, they's all capitalissssss, imperialisssss and racissssssss. And them males, they's all sexisssssss. And them conservatives, they's all facissssssss...

Hey, I think we've found the snake in the Garden.

Immanuel Can wrote: Hey, I think we've found the snake in the Garden.

I think you're more interested in finding henry's little snake.