Abortion is murder, or is it?

[Nick_A]

Sthit wrote: The government sanctions killing is wars to defend its country, in self defense to protect the right of an individual to live. These are good reasons unless you think otherwise. So it follows that allowing abortion is a good reason too.

So you think people should not be allowed to defend themselves? You think the right to kill in self defense is politically motivated? I am appalled at your ignorance.

Yes in all these cases human beings have lost their value so should be killed in the eyes of the law. However abortion is the one case that the victim is killed for convenience. Self preservation is one thing and convenience is another.

I find it repulsive because I cannot eat humans. You don't find it repulsive. So go ahead and eat. Why are you obsessed with making others eat human parts? You are one sick sicko.

Why is it a person can eat a chicken wing and be repulsed by eating a human arm? The human arm is a part of a human being which you believe has value as similar to yourself so the idea is repulsive. The chicken has no value other than as food so it may as well be eaten.

I respect her decision as much as I respect the decision of a woman who wants an abortion.

But if a woman is willing to risk her life for a meaningless zef don’t you think she should be required to receive therapy? If a woman is willing to risk her life to protect a head of lettuce don’t you think she needs help? Who knows what she may do for an onion?

And my dislike for Simone Weil is not misogyny. It is rooted in the undisputable fact that the woman was a weird dumbass. And that still does not explain your weird contradiction of worshipping a dead woman and still having no respect for the living ones.

Albert Camus called Simone the only great mind of the times. You call her a weird dumbass. Sure seems like misogyny to me. I admire her brilliant scientific mind coupled with an evolved woman’s heart but this isn’t worship. It is admiration of an extreme rarity. This has nothing to do with other living women.

However your support for killing a baby for convenience and rationalizing it as killing a meaningless zef is degrading the unborn in as horrible way as possible: murder.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Why do you keep raving on about that lunatic? No wonder religion is classified as a mental illness.

[Hobbes' Choice]

However your support for killing a baby for convenience and rationalizing it as killing a meaningless zef is degrading the unborn in as horrible way as possible: murder.

Having an abortion is doing god's work. Transferring a small foetus into a small bucket of "bio-hazardous waste" for disposal is transforming matter, as is gods plan.

[sthitapragya]

Yes in all these cases human beings have lost their value so should be killed in the eyes of the law. However abortion is the one case that the victim is killed for convenience. Self preservation is one thing and convenience is another.

This is like a merry-go-round. So just war and self defense are okay in the eyes of the law, so is abortion, because your government does not consider it killing. However, you do and you cannot agree with two kinds of killing and then disagree with a third one.

Convenience = misogyny.

Why is it a person can eat a chicken wing and be repulsed by eating a human arm?

Because most people are not sickos like you.

The human arm is a part of a human being which you believe has value as similar to yourself so the idea is repulsive. The chicken has no value other than as food so it may as well be eaten.

Not really. The chicken has value other than food too. There are a lot of vegetarians who think you are as bad as you think as abortionist is because you eat chicken. It is all subjective.

But if a woman is willing to risk her life for a meaningless zef don’t you think she should be required to receive therapy? If a woman is willing to risk her life to protect a head of lettuce don’t you think she needs help? Who knows what she may do for an onion?

No, a woman who risks her life to save her baby is to be commended. She does not require therapy. A woman who is willing to save her life to protect a head of lettuce requires help. A man who compares a baby to a head of lettuce requires far more help than the lady in question though.

Albert Camus called Simone the only great mind of the times. You call her a weird dumbass. Sure seems like misogyny to me. I admire her brilliant scientific mind coupled with an evolved woman’s heart but this isn’t worship. It is admiration of an extreme rarity. This has nothing to do with other living women.

Maybe Albert Camus thought she was a great mind. I think she is a dumbass. I read the stuff of hers you put up. She is a dumbass. Misogyny would be if I disliked her because she was a woman. I dislike her because what she writes is the most mindboggling nonsense I have ever read. She is a dumbass.

Your admiration of hers is not a good benchmark because you just compared a baby to a head of lettuce. So it figures that you would like her.

You calling abortion convenience shows complete lack of understanding or sympathy for a woman's position when she opts for abortion. That is misogyny. And you do worship the dumbass because you parrot her like you have her books tied around your waist.

However your support for killing a baby for convenience and rationalizing it as killing a meaningless zef is degrading the unborn in as horrible way as possible: murder.

Convenience= Misogyny. Inability to understand that your government does not think abortion is killing.

And you are the one degrading the unborn by trying to get people to eat them. Sicko.

[Nick_A]

Sthit, somehow you’ve become an unfortunate victim along with many others of pedophobia. It is what allows supporters of abortion to justify abortion without batting an eye. It can be treated. Good luck.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/ ... ekey=12179

Pedophobia: An abnormal and persistent fear of babies and children. Sufferers experience anxiety even though they realize their fear is groundless. Rearing a child or being around active children can both produce anxiety.

From the Greek "pais" (child) and "phobos" (fear).

It is safer for victims of pedophobia to abort babies before they can fight back. These babies do have it rough.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Sthit, somehow you’ve become an unfortunate victim along with many others of pedophobia. It is what allows supporters of abortion to justify abortion without batting an eye. It can be treated. Good luck.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/ ... ekey=12179

Pedophobia: An abnormal and persistent fear of babies and children. Sufferers experience anxiety even though they realize their fear is groundless. Rearing a child or being around active children can both produce anxiety.

From the Greek "pais" (child) and "phobos" (fear).

It is safer for victims of pedophobia to abort babies before they can fight back. These babies do have it rough.

Why do you think digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole is going to help your cause?

[sthitapragya]

Sthit, somehow you’ve become an unfortunate victim along with many others of pedophobia. It is what allows supporters of abortion to justify abortion without batting an eye. It can be treated. Good luck.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/ ... ekey=12179

Pedophobia: An abnormal and persistent fear of babies and children. Sufferers experience anxiety even though they realize their fear is groundless. Rearing a child or being around active children can both produce anxiety.

From the Greek "pais" (child) and "phobos" (fear).

It is safer for victims of pedophobia to abort babies before they can fight back. These babies do have it rough.

Sorry, dude. I have two daughters. In case you didn't know, they started out as babies. The problem is not any perceived fear of babies I might have. I have none. I kind of love babies at the risk of sounding mushy.

The problem is your misogyny combined with your unhealthy obsession of trying to shove fetuses down other people's throats, a sickness for which there is no name as it has never been documented, so you can at least claim to be the sickest sicko in human history. Ever. Which is a pretty big deal. So congratulations. I am not a fan.

You also seem to be claiming that every woman who has an abortion suffers from pedophobia. You really are the king of misogynists.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Sthit, somehow you’ve become an unfortunate victim along with many others of pedophobia. It is what allows supporters of abortion to justify abortion without batting an eye. It can be treated. Good luck.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/ ... ekey=12179

Pedophobia: An abnormal and persistent fear of babies and children. Sufferers experience anxiety even though they realize their fear is groundless. Rearing a child or being around active children can both produce anxiety.

From the Greek "pais" (child) and "phobos" (fear).

It is safer for victims of pedophobia to abort babies before they can fight back. These babies do have it rough.

I have a 21 years old son. When his Mum became pregnant I pleaded for an abortion. I do not regret that position. My life would have gone to plan and my future would have been different. But she wanted the child,and so I resolved to do my best my "it". When he was born I thought it a great day and have loved him ever since.
I'm a happy father and relish my time with him. That does not change my position at the time and I still stand by that POV. I had to sacrifice all my plans, but made the best of it.

Nothing you say on this matter is relevant or important to me.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Sthit, somehow you’ve become an unfortunate victim along with many others of pedophobia. It is what allows supporters of abortion to justify abortion without batting an eye. It can be treated. Good luck.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/ ... ekey=12179

Pedophobia: An abnormal and persistent fear of babies and children. Sufferers experience anxiety even though they realize their fear is groundless. Rearing a child or being around active children can both produce anxiety.

From the Greek "pais" (child) and "phobos" (fear).

It is safer for victims of pedophobia to abort babies before they can fight back. These babies do have it rough.

I have a 21 years old son. When his Mum became pregnant I pleaded for an abortion. I do not regret that position. My life would have gone to plan and my future would have been different. But she wanted the child,and so I resolved to do my best my "it". When he was born I thought it a great day and have loved him ever since.
I'm a happy father and relish my time with him. That does not change my position at the time and I still stand by that POV. I had to sacrifice all my plans, but made the best of it.

Nothing you say on this matter is relevant or important to me.

Anti-abortionist are so fucked-in-the-head that with their sicko 'logic', using contraception is murdering potential human beings (actually that is what they 'think'). They must hate cancer doctors for murdering all those living cancer cells.

[Nick_A]

What a shame. These men seem open to allowing the born to live but live in fear and hatred of the unborn. This is related to pedophobia and is called tokophobia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokophobia

Psychological disorder[edit]
In 2000, an article published in the British Journal of Psychiatry (2000, 176: 83-85[4]) described the fear of childbirth as apsychological disorder that has received little attention and may be overlooked. The article introduced the termtokophobia in the medical literature (from the Greek tokos, meaning childbirth and phobos, meaning fear).
Phobia of pregnancy and childbirth, as with any phobia, can manifest through a number of symptoms includingnightmares, difficulty in concentrating on work or on family activities, panic attacks and psychosomatic complaints. Often the fear of childbirth motivates a request for an elective caesarean section.[5] Fear of labor pain is strongly associated with the fear of pain in general; a previous complicated childbirth, or inadequate pain relief, may cause the phobia to develop. A fear of pregnancy itself can result in an avoidance of pregnancy or even, as birth control methods are never 100% effective, an avoidance of sexual intercourse or asking for hysterectomy.
Tokophobia is a distressing psychological disorder which may be overlooked by medical professionals; as well as specific phobia and anxiety disorders, tokophobia may be associated with depression and post-traumatic stress disorder.[6]Recognition of tokophobia and close liaison with obstetricians or other medical specialists can help to reduce its severity and ensure efficient treatment.[7][8]

So that explains how the fetus can be scorned as a meaningless demonic parasitic zef whose value is determined by the whims of a woman into this cute little baby with legal rights. It is a phobia. They cannot help themselves. What a shame.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

What a shame. These men seem open to allowing the born to live but live in fear and hatred of the unborn. This is related to pedophobia and is called tokophobia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokophobia

Psychological disorder[edit]
In 2000, an article published in the British Journal of Psychiatry (2000, 176: 83-85[4]) described the fear of childbirth as apsychological disorder that has received little attention and may be overlooked. The article introduced the termtokophobia in the medical literature (from the Greek tokos, meaning childbirth and phobos, meaning fear).
Phobia of pregnancy and childbirth, as with any phobia, can manifest through a number of symptoms includingnightmares, difficulty in concentrating on work or on family activities, panic attacks and psychosomatic complaints. Often the fear of childbirth motivates a request for an elective caesarean section.[5] Fear of labor pain is strongly associated with the fear of pain in general; a previous complicated childbirth, or inadequate pain relief, may cause the phobia to develop. A fear of pregnancy itself can result in an avoidance of pregnancy or even, as birth control methods are never 100% effective, an avoidance of sexual intercourse or asking for hysterectomy.
Tokophobia is a distressing psychological disorder which may be overlooked by medical professionals; as well as specific phobia and anxiety disorders, tokophobia may be associated with depression and post-traumatic stress disorder.[6]Recognition of tokophobia and close liaison with obstetricians or other medical specialists can help to reduce its severity and ensure efficient treatment.[7][8]

So that explains how the fetus can be scorned as a meaningless demonic parasitic zef whose value is determined by the whims of a woman into this cute little baby with legal rights. It is a phobia. They cannot help themselves. What a shame.

It's a shame we can't turn back the clock and have you and your ilk aborted. Troll.

[sthitapragya]

What a shame. These men seem open to allowing the born to live but live in fear and hatred of the unborn. This is related to pedophobia and is called tokophobia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokophobia

Psychological disorder[edit]
In 2000, an article published in the British Journal of Psychiatry (2000, 176: 83-85[4]) described the fear of childbirth as apsychological disorder that has received little attention and may be overlooked. The article introduced the termtokophobia in the medical literature (from the Greek tokos, meaning childbirth and phobos, meaning fear).
Phobia of pregnancy and childbirth, as with any phobia, can manifest through a number of symptoms includingnightmares, difficulty in concentrating on work or on family activities, panic attacks and psychosomatic complaints. Often the fear of childbirth motivates a request for an elective caesarean section.[5] Fear of labor pain is strongly associated with the fear of pain in general; a previous complicated childbirth, or inadequate pain relief, may cause the phobia to develop. A fear of pregnancy itself can result in an avoidance of pregnancy or even, as birth control methods are never 100% effective, an avoidance of sexual intercourse or asking for hysterectomy.
Tokophobia is a distressing psychological disorder which may be overlooked by medical professionals; as well as specific phobia and anxiety disorders, tokophobia may be associated with depression and post-traumatic stress disorder.[6]Recognition of tokophobia and close liaison with obstetricians or other medical specialists can help to reduce its severity and ensure efficient treatment.[7][8]

So that explains how the fetus can be scorned as a meaningless demonic parasitic zef whose value is determined by the whims of a woman into this cute little baby with legal rights. It is a phobia. They cannot help themselves. What a shame.

You are just becoming weirder by the minute. But it's fun now, so go on. I want to see what other stuff your sick mind can come up with. This was interesting but after shoving fetuses down other people's throats, this is lame by your standards. Come on, man, you can do better and my popcorn is getting cold.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Sthit, somehow you’ve become an unfortunate victim along with many others of pedophobia. It is what allows supporters of abortion to justify abortion without batting an eye. It can be treated. Good luck.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/ ... ekey=12179


It is safer for victims of pedophobia to abort babies before they can fight back. These babies do have it rough.

I have a 21 years old son. When his Mum became pregnant I pleaded for an abortion. I do not regret that position. My life would have gone to plan and my future would have been different. But she wanted the child,and so I resolved to do my best my "it". When he was born I thought it a great day and have loved him ever since.
I'm a happy father and relish my time with him. That does not change my position at the time and I still stand by that POV. I had to sacrifice all my plans, but made the best of it.

Nothing you say on this matter is relevant or important to me.

Anti-abortionist are so fucked-in-the-head that with their sicko 'logic', using contraception is murdering potential human beings (actually that is what they 'think'). They must hate cancer doctors for murdering all those living cancer cells.

The sick irony is that they are also literally wankers and murder millions of potential lives each night in secret.

[sthitapragya]

I have a 21 years old son. When his Mum became pregnant I pleaded for an abortion. I do not regret that position. My life would have gone to plan and my future would have been different. But she wanted the child,and so I resolved to do my best my "it". When he was born I thought it a great day and have loved him ever since.
I'm a happy father and relish my time with him. That does not change my position at the time and I still stand by that POV. I had to sacrifice all my plans, but made the best of it.

Nothing you say on this matter is relevant or important to me.

Anti-abortionist are so fucked-in-the-head that with their sicko 'logic', using contraception is murdering potential human beings (actually that is what they 'think'). They must hate cancer doctors for murdering all those living cancer cells.

The sick irony is that they are also literally wankers and murder millions of potential lives each night in secret.

[Nick_A]

These phobias and societal attitudes that sanction and condone abortions of convenience, murder, are unnatural. A woman can try to suppress this awareness but often the result is horrible psychological suffering and even physical addictions. Those here applaud it in such a negative callous manner. It takes all kinds

http://afterabortion.org/2011/abortion- ... -abortion/

REQUIREMENT OF PSYCHOLOGICAL TREATMENT:
A study of the medical records of 56,741 California medicaid patients revealed that women who had abortions were 160 percent more likely than delivering women to be hospitalized for psychiatric treatment in the first 90 days following abortion or delivery. Rates of psychiatric treatment remained significantly higher for at least four years.

In a study of post-abortion patients only 8 weeks after their abortion, researchers found that 44% complained of nervous disorders, 36% had experienced sleep disturbances, 31% had regrets about their decision, and 11% had been prescribed psychotropic medicine by their family doctor. (2)

And the article goes on. Those here who claim to support women and condemn the unborn are hypocrites. They would send women to hell if it furthered their secular agenda.