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Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:27 am
by SpheresOfBalance
attofishpi wrote:Godfree wrote:attofishpi wrote:Ok Godfree so we are back at square two. Read closely what i had written, i am not stating any universe increases, i am stating the entropy of the system is increasing.
I am stating that the resources available to man ARE finite...to which you are disagreeing.
Once again by disagreeing with my statement you are stating that the resources available to man are infinite.
Entropy , while you may consider your being clever here ,
a term like that is a complex and vast subject on it's own ,
to drop it in here as tho we all know what it means ,
or what you mean in this context ,?????????
but since your sooooo clever ,
put it in laymans terms ,
are you talking about the total mass in the universe , total knowledge , variations ,???
show us how clever you are and put it in a sentence everybody here can understand ,,,!!!!
Being a first class layman myself, i thought it was rather obvious what i am stating. If you didnt understand the term entropy then you should have looked it up in a dictionary prior to answering my question.
I think my original statement is in "layman's terms":-
The resources available to man ARE finite.
Or do you still disagree?
How do you know that entropy, as it pertains to cosmology, is something that shall ever be the case. How could one know what happens when nothing but black holes exist, and what happens if they all eventually come together, making one Super-Duper-Pooper-Scooper massive black hole, it could possibly recycle everything. Maybe it'll collapse in on itself, sucking in all space-time, to form another singularity, that goes bang, thereby making the universe infinite, in a manner of speaking.
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:15 am
by Hjarloprillar
"How do you know that entropy, as it pertains to cosmology, is something that shall ever be the case. How could one know what happens when nothing but black holes exist"
because holes exist due to entropy ,idiot. we are star stuff due to entropy. idiot.
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:40 am
by SpheresOfBalance
Hjarloprillar wrote:SpheresOfBalance wrote:How do you know that entropy, as it pertains to cosmology, is something that shall ever be the case. How could one know what happens when nothing but black holes exist
because holes exist due to entropy ,idiot. we are star stuff due to entropy. idiot.
OK moron, remember, you asked for it, so here it goes:
entropy en·tro·py [en-truh-pee]
noun
3.(in cosmology) a hypothetical tendency for the universe to attain a state of maximum homogeneity in which all matter is at a uniform temperature (heat death)
Now I bet you can't type because you can't see the keyboard due to the foot in your mouth.
But more importantly, I spoke of a singular Black Hole, due to them all merging, that man has never known before, and that may have the power to suck space-time into it, all dark matter and dark energy, how could you, an asshole, know what may happen in that case.
Plus in case you missed it, I called it a super-duper-pooper-scooper black hole. See anything strange? I guess you missed my messing around a bit, with such a strange hyphenated word.
Not to mention that ignorant is appropriate, while idiot is you seeking compensation, for past whippings, I've given you.
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:35 pm
by Hjarloprillar
in reflection
i see the same old.
One comes to know in heart that war is a tale.
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing.
So i surrender. You 'win'.
Say whatever pleases you. I have reached that point where i no longer care.
A point oft said to make one the most dangerous.
but in truth for me a point where the small things become the most coveted.
a comfy chair a good book.
And gene barry on my big screen cowering in ditch as martian tripods blow stuff up.
What you say means very very little compared to these things.
be well
prill
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Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:40 pm
by Kuznetzova
Hjarloprillar wrote:Eric Learner?
never heard of him.
Dear Hjarloprillar,
Godfree wrote:
I was emailed by Micheal Lewis a couple of days ago , invited me to join Linkedin ,
Micheal has a Physics degree and used maths to prove his claim that there was no big bang ,
and the universe is not expanding ,
Citations, please.
Godfree wrote:
thebigbangneverhappened.org ,,there you will find Micheals equations and explanations of ,
what causes the red shift ,
the pattern of galaxies ,
and just a logical alternative explanation for the universe ,
based on his science and facts , for which he has been recognized ,
(
http://www.bigbangneverhappened.org/ )
This looks like Eric Lerner's website.
I don't see any mentions of Michael Lewis here.
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:53 pm
by Hjarloprillar
"Micheal has a Physics degree and used maths to prove his claim that there was no big bang ,
and the universe is not expanding"
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I have a doctorate in applied sodomy from university of girlfriend number 44.
There expansion factor p over >* x pi
proved that there are limits to expansion. you cant fit an SUV in a bar fridge ..'hick'
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:15 pm
by Kuznetzova
"There you will find Michael's equations".
Uh, no. They are not there.
Fix your citations and make a vague attempt at proper punctuation.
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:29 pm
by Godfree
Hjarloprillar wrote:"How do you know that entropy, as it pertains to cosmology, is something that shall ever be the case. How could one know what happens when nothing but black holes exist"
because holes exist due to entropy ,idiot. we are star stuff due to entropy. idiot.
I think this is a bit harsh to assume everybody automatically knows about the thermo dynamics of the universe ,
is a bit arrogant , this should not be a platform for people to try and impress each other with the size ,
of their words , I always maintain if you can't put it in a understandable sentence ,
then you don't understand it yourself ,
so put it out there for us all to chew over ,
not knowing much about the subject and not having much from you to go on ,
I shall guess , it's what I do best ,
are you saying that the universe is slowly cooling ,,???
are the atoms slowing down ,,???
have they calculated the total amount of energy in the system ,,???
how accurate can any of these calculations be ,,???
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:42 pm
by Godfree
Kuznetzova wrote:"There you will find Michael's equations".
Uh, no. They are not there.
Fix your citations and make a vague attempt at proper punctuation.
Not where ,,? , did you get to the site I mentioned , if not a simple google would have found it ,
myself , I prefer not to just make these pages references to other pages ,
this is the page , we do it here , get your brain out and discuss it here ,
photon decay is the explanation for the red shift , not movement ,
this is one of the main issues dealt with on Micheals site,
also the pattern of galaxies reveals a lot about the movement of the galaxies ,
and ,, my punctuation ,,works fine for me ,,thats just you saying ,
you think your smarter than I am ...
I think your wrong ,
you can't even see past the fact that I am a man and you are a woman ,
you are blinded by your sexism ..!!!
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:17 pm
by Godfree
Kuznetzova wrote:"There you will find Michael's equations".
Uh, no. They are not there.
Fix your citations and make a vague attempt at proper punctuation.
I have my websites mixed up , that reference is indeed Eric J learner ,
please google ,,The Hubble Red Shift By Photon Decay ,,,By Michael Lewis ,
there you will find his equations ,
I found them all with google in the first instance ,
other interesting google themes ,
the biggest black hole ,, the oldest black hole ,, red and dead ,
to obtain good knowledge , you must first ask a good question .
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:48 pm
by Kuznetzova
Goood.
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:06 pm
by attofishpi
SpheresOfBalance wrote:How do you know that entropy, as it pertains to cosmology, is something that shall ever be the case.
I am only discussing entropy as it relates to man's existence, with a view to its consequences and implications.
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:31 pm
by Godfree
attofishpi wrote:SpheresOfBalance wrote:How do you know that entropy, as it pertains to cosmology, is something that shall ever be the case.
I am only discussing entropy as it relates to man's existence, with a view to its consequences and implications.
Very good , go ahead ,,please tell us all , HOW it relates to mans existence ,
what are the consequences ,,???
what are the implications ,,??
it's all very well to say there is this good knowledge called entropy ,
but I repeat ,
if you can't put it in your own terms ,
then you don't understand it and just use it like name dropping ,
to try and make yourself sound clever ,
well I'm all eyes go for it , show us just how big that brain of yours is ,,!!!
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:40 pm
by Godfree
Kuznetzova wrote:Goood.
The term red and dead , refers to galaxies , so Galaxies red and dead ,
and there you will find sites that almost apologize for the fact that ,
the observational data does not fit the bbt ,
we can see a whole host of galaxies around 10 billion light years away ,
ans some of them are red and dead ,
they have completed their life cycle ,
that clearly proves the universe is older than 13.7 billion years ,
and yet the sites avoid making such claims directly ,
it's almost like they aren't aloud to publish material that proves the bbt wrong ,
I have been on bbt websites , that blocked me and banned me from the site ,
simply for challenging the theory and talking about exactly the sort of stuff I am here ,
so just like religion , we have our fundamentalists out there trying to protect their precious bbt
Re: The universe expands ...
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:06 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
Hjarloprillar wrote:in reflection
i see the same old.
One comes to know in heart that war is a tale.
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing.
There is only ever a war of two or more, and often one may find one that doesn't actually exist.
So i surrender. You 'win'.
There are many ways to surrender or win, it's all a matter of perspective, really.
Say whatever pleases you. I have reached that point where i no longer care.
A point oft said to make one the most dangerous.
but in truth for me a point where the small things become the most coveted.
a comfy chair a good book.
And gene barry on my big screen cowering in ditch as martian tripods blow stuff up.
What you say means very very little compared to these things.
Yes we are only ever interested in ourselves, right?
be well
Never give up!
SoB
prill
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