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SpheresOfBalance wrote: No, you can't even begin to understand, throughout my life I noticed he was just like CHAZ; Always right!!! No matter WHAT? When I was 4 years old and he physically abused me,
You are such an odious little wanker. How dare you compare me to an abuser! You must be really fucked up!
You need to get a grip buddy.
FYI - when you say I "am always right", basically you are talking about yourself.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:OK, you politely stated your case this time, without pointing your finger at me as if to imply I'm some kind of dunce, bravo! Seriously, this sounded great, I'm impressed, And because of it, you get an "A" for effort, You 'almost' pleaded your case as if you could actually care for someones life, BRAVO! Like in fact there is actually love in your heart, GOOD MAN!chaz wyman wrote:Gerson is no therapy at all. It is not even diagnostic. If I did not give my opinion of a 50 year out-of-date therapy which has never been demonstrated to work then I would not be offering any help.SpheresOfBalance wrote: Chaz, i really appreciate your help, I do seriously! But I didn't ask for your estimation as to the viability of my chosen therapy,
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Gerson dates back to a time when our understanding of cancer was pitifully small, like many other therapies of the time, it smacks of desperation. Its claims are overblown and delivered by people with little or no medical background. It does not begin to comply with any kind of double blind study nor has it ever had properly designed peer review articles and studies.
Due to your last post you can go and fuck yourself - or maybe your sister - she told me she id waiting for you in the tool shed with your pet rabbit.
It would seem that I gave you more of a benefit of the doubt than you deserved, You took and twisted from this, what you wanted, and in so doing showed your true colors, I feel sorry for your dumb ass, as you seemingly shall always only see things your way, the wrong way! Take your head out of your ass freak, there's more to life than your twisted sense of self, your relative take. Grow up boy!chaz wyman wrote:SpheresOfBalance wrote: No, you can't even begin to understand, throughout my life I noticed he was just like CHAZ; Always right!!! No matter WHAT? When I was 4 years old and he physically abused me,
You are such an odious little wanker. How dare you compare me to an abuser! You must be really fucked up!
You need to get a grip buddy.
FYI - when you say I "am always right", basically you are talking about yourself.
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Oh you wounded me, yeah like if I was in the 5th grade, I would have never thought that my being 2 years older than you would mean such a difference in maturity. What are you, like fucking 12, mentally?chaz wyman wrote:Due to your last post you can go and fuck yourself - or maybe your sister - she told me she id waiting for you in the tool shed with your pet rabbit.SpheresOfBalance wrote: OK, you politely stated your case this time, without pointing your finger at me as if to imply I'm some kind of dunce, bravo! Seriously, this sounded great, I'm impressed, And because of it, you get an "A" for effort, You 'almost' pleaded your case as if you could actually care for someones life, BRAVO! Like in fact there is actually love in your heart, GOOD MAN!
You're such a fucking boy! I feel sorry for your wife/girl. Bet she has to always make allowances for your infantile crap.Chaz and SOBchaz wyman wrote:SpheresOfBalance wrote: No, you can't even begin to understand, throughout my life I noticed he was just like CHAZ; Always right!!! No matter WHAT? When I was 4 years old and he physically abused me,
You are such an odious little wanker. How dare you compare me to an abuser! You must be really fucked up!
You need to get a grip buddy.
FYI - when you say I "am always right", basically you are talking about yourself.
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SoB knows what he is doing.marjoramblues wrote:[
Chaz and SOB
Probably placing myself in the firing line here; but I don't need to be gunned down by either of you formidable beings.
However, I do need to say that - at first I didn't feel that Chaz was being portrayed as an abuser. Only that SOB reads him as having to be right all the time, and against him, always.
I could have interpreted it differently, from Chaz's perspective. SOB's story linked Chaz with his abusive father and the phrase 'always right' - no matter what. This phrase was repeated throughout the narrative. SOB asked if we could start to see a pattern.
Chaz was placed in an absolute and unchanging position. And yes, the same could be said about SOB, absolutely. Always him against the world, seemingly: ' Unlike all the rest of the people of the world, I do not fear truth'. Whatever that means.
This exchange can no longer be seen as just a 'sidebar'; it is a thread derailed - a train wreck. A pattern ?
I think not.reasonemotion wrote:I see it a little differently. There is an association here. Mistrust, which was borne from the abuse SOB had to endure as a child. It is imprinted in his subconscious and unluckily for CW, various traits of CW's expressions unleashed the terror SOB associates with his father. I can see the struggle SOB has with this and it blocks his rational thinking. It is an automatic reaction to his experiences with the father. So SOB has difficulty trusting men. His conscious self recognises CW's offer of help, but the subconscious sets off an alarm. SOB has no trouble trusting women, in fact he has quite a few supporting him. I would not take it personally CW, see it for what it really is. His blind spot. He has intimated that he is working on it.
Written by CW
"Due to your last post you can go and fuck yourself - or maybe your sister - she told me she id waiting for you in the tool shed with your pet rabbit."
Shame on you, CW, you go too far.
You're right, I just really took offense when you said that being married with children, when so young was so tough, in essence that he deserved some special consideration because of it. The point was that if you think he had it bad, how about me, I mean the way I see it, it's the parents job to suck it up, make concessions, as adults, not the baby's/child's. I also see that being married young was his fault that he couldn't keep his dick in his pants and not fuck a 14 yo minor, that is molestation of a child here, as he was of legal age at the time, i.e., 18 or older. I don't know if you noticed but all his life it was all about fucking and not making love. His current wife is over 20 years his junior, and is the one a saved from drowning, and she was definitely a goner, If I hadn't heard her struggle, which was only splashing, everyone else was sleeping, she'd be dead. That was years ago and even still he stole the money my grandmother had for me in that insurance policy, in my name. Not that he should necessarily have to pay for his concubine, but I just wonder what her life and my testicle was worth, not to mention all the other hardships I suffered at his hands, due to his extreme selfishness, when I'm only asking for honesty truth and fair-play. After living through what I've lived through, I defy anyone to side with him, even ever so slightly, as he's had ample opportunity to set things right, but for his selfishness! Definitely an unfit father, instead of sticking it in women he should have had it chopped off instead.reasonemotion wrote:SOB, I am not defending your father. Just stating a fact about both your parents. Too young.
You asked if I would stand up to him. If you mean now, that I am an adult. My answer is yes. With a man like your father , the best weapon of defence against him is the intellect and you are more than adequate in that department. Your story is not uncommon and you are entirely blameless, you were a child living on the battlefield of a mother and father. I would try to move forward with this and you are doing so by receiving therapy.
Exactly! Well actually I had to add the proper punctuation, I hope you don't mind.chaz wyman wrote:I think, not!reasonemotion wrote:I see it a little differently. There is an association here. Mistrust, which was borne from the abuse SOB had to endure as a child. It is imprinted in his subconscious and unluckily for CW, various traits of CW's expressions unleashed the terror SOB associates with his father. I can see the struggle SOB has with this and it blocks his rational thinking. It is an automatic reaction to his experiences with the father. So SOB has difficulty trusting men. His conscious self recognises CW's offer of help, but the subconscious sets off an alarm. SOB has no trouble trusting women, in fact he has quite a few supporting him. I would not take it personally CW, see it for what it really is. His blind spot. He has intimated that he is working on it.
Written by CW
"Due to your last post you can go and fuck yourself - or maybe your sister - she told me she id waiting for you in the tool shed with your pet rabbit."
Shame on you, CW, you go too far.
Merely a reflection of how he treats innocent women, minding their own business, much like that of a drive by shooting. I bet he wants to break my sisters ribs too.reasonemotion wrote:I see it a little differently. There is an association here. Mistrust, which was borne from the abuse SOB had to endure as a child. It is imprinted in his subconscious and unluckily for CW, various traits of CW's expressions unleashed the terror SOB associates with his father. I can see the struggle SOB has with this and it blocks his rational thinking. It is an automatic reaction to his experiences with the father. So SOB has difficulty trusting men. His conscious self recognises CW's offer of help, but the subconscious sets off an alarm. SOB has no trouble trusting women, in fact he has quite a few supporting him. I would not take it personally CW, see it for what it really is. His blind spot. He has intimated that he is working on it.
Written by CW
"Due to your last post you can go and fuck yourself - or maybe your sister - she told me she id waiting for you in the tool shed with your pet rabbit."
Shame on you, CW, you go too far.