Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:46 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:41 pm
What if "adolf hitler" just rallied together some human beings and killed a group of people who were going to be the cause of untold and unimaginably misery, damage, and harm to humanity, itself, which human beings collectively could not have overcome from?
Is this something you are planning?
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:46 pm
Well this is one Truly absurd and idiotic thing to even begin to imagine or assume, let alone ask 'out aloud' in a public forum of all places. And, especially considering what I have actually been saying and writing in this forum.
Hm, no answer. Perhaps you're tone deaf about how that portion of your text sounds.
If you, really, do want me to answer 'your' question above here, then you will, obviously, have to inform 'me' what the 'something' is, exactly, that you are even talking about and referring to, in 'that question'.
you really do have absolutely no clue nor idea that when a thought arises in 'that body' that if you do not specifically inform another of what 'that thought' actually is, then 'the other' does not know.
LOL Just 'look at' 'your question', and imagine if someone asked you the exact same thing. 'Is this something you are planning?'
Now, answer the question "iwannaplato".
Hm, 'no answer', as well.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:46 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:55 am
Would you kill millions or help to organize the killing of millions of people if you thought this would lead to a net reduction in human suffering?
'This one' has, again, managed, completely, to miss what I have actually meant and was pointing out.
I asked a question. Your questions left open people being better if the people they kill people who will end up doing bad things.
Does 'your claim' here make sense, to you?
If no, then would you like to fix it up?
But, if it does make sense, to you, as it stands, then it does not, to me.
As I read it you have completely and utterly missed or misinterpreted what I was saying, and meaning.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:46 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:55 am
If someone drives somewhere to rape a baby and on the way accidently runs over a serial killer on the way to the rape, does this make the driver a better person?
To who?
To you. I asked you. I'd ask other people if I wanted to know their beliefs.
But, if some thing happens accidentally, then if that make 'that person', who had an accident a 'better person', or not, is dependent upon 'them'.
However, if you are just asking if just 'having an accident' makes one a 'better person' from 'my perspective', then 'that question' is illogical and nonsensical.
'Accidents' and 'becoming better' or not do not necessarily correlate.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:46 pm
Notice how this one will not answer clarifying questions, but then, only at particular times, chooses to ask clarifying questions.
Notice the internal contradiction in this assertion..
I think you misunderstood, once more.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:46 pm
Which is Truly funny, considering the actual questions it decides to ask. That is; the questions have absolutely nothing at all to do with what I was pointing out and showing.
I'm sure if there are other readers they will see where my questions are coming from and how they relate to what you wrote. I understand that you don't understand.
you have just proven, once again, that what 'you assume', when you read 'my words', are completely and utterly False, Wrong, and Incorrect, and which then leads you to absolutely illogical conclusions.
If you, really, believe that what I was saying, and meaning, is that if some one 'accidentally' kills one who, if not killed, would have turned out to be like an "adolf hitler", and that this is where you are 'coming from' and that 'your question' relates 'to this', then you really do have absolutely no idea nor clue as to what I meant, in what I wrote.
For a self-professed "teacher" of the english language, you really do have an extremely hard time with comprehension skills regarding my writings here.
you, once again, could not be any further away from what I actually wrote, and meant, here.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:55 am
Would "adolf hitler" be as bad as some made him out to be?
Given the vast range of assessments different groups of 'some people' have made about Hitler, yes.
So, even if "adolf hitler" ended up killing one or more human beings, that it was found out later, who would have been far worse than "adolf hitler", "itself", 'this one' still believes that "adolf hitler" would have been so-called 'as bad' as some made it out to be, before those ones realized what "adolf hitler" had actually saved their children and grandchildren, for example, from, exactly.
Re-read my answer. You're confused.[/quote]
So, again, this one believes that it just has to say, 'you are confused', to another, and that this is all that is needed.
I suggest you re-read my first posts, in every thread, seek out and obtain actual clarity/clarification before you respond, and then decide how to respond, exactly.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:46 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:55 am
Are you a consequentialist?
Obviously 'you', still, do not have any absolute clue nor idea as to who and what 'I' am, exactly.
Which is absolutely understandable considering that 'you' have never even tried to understand who nor what 'I' am, exactly.
If 'you' even has the slightest remote idea to who 'I' am, then 'you' would not have asked such a Truly nonsensical question as 'you' did here
. No answer.
LOL Does 'this one' miss things, purposely, or absolutely unknowingly?
If a question to me is 'nonsensical', then OBVIOUSLY I am not going to answer it.
one would have to be an absolute fool and idiot to imagine that another would answer a nonsensical question.
Again, 'your question' is 'nonsensical', to me, "iwannaplato".
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:46 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:55 am
Or, what if what if what "jesus christ" did was what has caused the wars, misery, damage, and destruction that is happening and occurring in 'the world', when this is being written.
Do you view this as hypothetical?
Why?
What you described in relation to Jesus Christ is how many people actually view the effects of his life and the religion formed around him. You seemed unaware of this, but I asked a question to see if you merely seemed that way.
So, why be elusive and deceiving?
Why not just write, instead, some thing like, for example, you seem to think a 'certain way', is this 'the way' you are thinking here?
Then just WAIT. And then find out what the 'actual answer' is, exactly.
Asking things in a Truly complicated and/or 'convulated way' is not helping any one here.
Now, there are so many clarifying questions I could ask you here, like on just about every other occasion, 'with you, here.
So, are there really some people who view that it was only 'the theology' formed around one human being known as "jesus christ" that has caused the wars, misery, et cetera?
Would it matter one iota?
If yes, then why, exactly?
What if what "jesus christ" did, has caused the Wrong in 'the world' 'today', when this is being written, would ...?
No answer to my question.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:55 am
Would "jesus christ" be as 'good' as some make him out to be?
What group or individuals is 'some' referring to?
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:46 pm
To any group, or individual, who claims "jesus christ" is 'good'?
The answer depends on which group. Different groups and sets of individuals will have different reactions.
Very, very True.
So, it would have been much better if I was far clearer, and concise.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:46 pm
Also, I will have to apologize for the misuse of one word twice here.
Apologize to whom? When will you apologize?
you seem to not be able to follow 'common usage of words in the day when this is being written'.
When one says, 'I have to apologize for ...', this can mean that it has actually already been done.
So, the answer to your question is, already.
And, the answer to your other question here is every one who read that post.