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FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmWe can colour in your first premise there as red for Junk. There is no quantitative method available for judging beauty.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmWithout that there is no way to disentangle cause and outcome in any measurment of attraction rates within or between races. Thus you cannot measure the value of race versus that of racial prejudice. You didn't even bother to try and compensate for income disparities, let alone any other cultural factor.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmProminence of western culture is a bit of a nothingburger. This thing about beauty standards and white women is contingent so there's no point even bothering to address whether it can be a natural truth. We'll make them purple for pointlessness.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmYour next plausible candidate for a factual claim would be that "Miscegenation is not generally practiced around the world, except in Cosmopolitan areas." It doesn't really make any sense though, metropolitan areas are the ones where racial mixing is expected to occur, no? What was the point of this claim please?

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmIt seems to matter for this Jewish miscegenation conspiracy theory that we are about to have to wade into...

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:27 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmWe can colour in your first premise there as red for Junk. There is no quantitative method available for judging beauty.

Incorrect, beauty directly correlates with physical and mathematical symmetry, the Golden Mean.
Since you're ignorant of this, it makes sense why you're ignorant of most the rest of your beliefs.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmWithout that there is no way to disentangle cause and outcome in any measurment of attraction rates within or between races. Thus you cannot measure the value of race versus that of racial prejudice. You didn't even bother to try and compensate for income disparities, let alone any other cultural factor.

I don't need to. According to the Doctorate student researcher and information in online dating, the data leads to obvious conclusions about racial dating statistics, outcomes, and variables. The data takes into consideration all the factors you stated.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmProminence of western culture is a bit of a nothingburger. This thing about beauty standards and white women is contingent so there's no point even bothering to address whether it can be a natural truth. We'll make them purple for pointlessness.

It's not a "nothingburger" if there is a severely different presentation of beauty in mass media from decade to decade, and there is. Especially today where MSM, mainstream media pushes "fat acceptance" (of obesity) and marxist-ideological standards. But this presentation does not match reality, does not match the data, and does not match any rational explanation that you offer excuses for. You defend it, without realizing your complicity.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmYour next plausible candidate for a factual claim would be that "Miscegenation is not generally practiced around the world, except in Cosmopolitan areas." It doesn't really make any sense though, metropolitan areas are the ones where racial mixing is expected to occur, no? What was the point of this claim please?

The point is that some societies and cultures are tolerant of racial marxism and multi-culturalism, while others are not. You represent such a system, leading to...

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmIt seems to matter for this Jewish miscegenation conspiracy theory that we are about to have to wade into...

...your neurosis here.

You believe, that because I half-jokingly refer to the sacrifice of Zionist led Zelensky mass human sacrificing millions of Ukranian Slavs, to conjure the Antichrist to Earth, in a great demonic summoning...that I must be some fantastical Caricature that appeared in your schizoid mind. You perceive me as some redneck, hillbilly, "racist!" The problem for you therein, is that you are outclassed. You don't know what you're talking about. So tell me about this "Jewish miscegenation conspiracy theory"? What could that possibly mean? I want to hear your delusions.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:53 pmHe doesn't seem to care when promethean keeps posting links to some revolting site called 'best gore' dot com or when he glorifies serial killers who rape and torture women to death.

Where Sculptor works and resides is so white that he's probably never seen a non white person in his life--a common trait of wonkers.
He hates me because I confront him with the truth of his hypocrisy. He has no answer for it, except to throw around the 'R&B' words (which has worn thin), so he pretends to not read my posts

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:39 amAre you saying that 'white' people are more symmetrical?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:27 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmWe can colour in your first premise there as red for Junk. There is no quantitative method available for judging beauty.

Incorrect, beauty directly correlates with physical and mathematical symmetry, the Golden Mean.
Since you're ignorant of this, it makes sense why you're ignorant of most the rest of your beliefs.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmWithout that there is no way to disentangle cause and outcome in any measurment of attraction rates within or between races. Thus you cannot measure the value of race versus that of racial prejudice. You didn't even bother to try and compensate for income disparities, let alone any other cultural factor.

I don't need to. According to the Doctorate student researcher and information in online dating, the data leads to obvious conclusions about racial dating statistics, outcomes, and variables. The data takes into consideration all the factors you stated.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmProminence of western culture is a bit of a nothingburger. This thing about beauty standards and white women is contingent so there's no point even bothering to address whether it can be a natural truth. We'll make them purple for pointlessness.

It's not a "nothingburger" if there is a severely different presentation of beauty in mass media from decade to decade, and there is. Especially today where MSM, mainstream media pushes "fat acceptance" (of obesity) and marxist-ideological standards. But this presentation does not match reality, does not match the data, and does not match any rational explanation that you offer excuses for. You defend it, without realizing your complicity.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:27 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmYour next plausible candidate for a factual claim would be that "Miscegenation is not generally practiced around the world, except in Cosmopolitan areas." It doesn't really make any sense though, metropolitan areas are the ones where racial mixing is expected to occur, no? What was the point of this claim please?

The point is that some societies and cultures are tolerant of racial marxism and multi-culturalism, while others are not. You represent such a system, leading to...

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:27 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:09 pmIt seems to matter for this Jewish miscegenation conspiracy theory that we are about to have to wade into...

...your neurosis here.

You believe, that because I half-jokingly refer to the sacrifice of Zionist led Zelensky mass human sacrificing millions of Ukranian Slavs, to conjure the Antichrist to Earth, in a great demonic summoning...that I must be some fantastical Caricature that appeared in your schizoid mind. You perceive me as some redneck, hillbilly, "racist!" The problem for you therein, is that you are outclassed. You don't know what you're talking about. So tell me about this "Jewish miscegenation conspiracy theory"? What could that possibly mean? I want to hear your delusions.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:08 amThis is boring now. You proimised to just ruin me with all this racial truth, but you cannot comprehend the difference between factual demonstration and intepretive insinuation. You have had enough chances to demonstrate causal links between race and beauty that are a result of anything other than cultural preference for some skin tone or other, you've got nothing, and you possibly cannot understand the problem.

If you were going to do better you would have done so by now. Instead of addressing that problem of simple cause and effect, you've opted for some conspiracy theory about marxism that does nothing about the actual structural problems in your claim, and nobody has time for that shit. For this reason, those claims are all denied out of hand with no further consideration due.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:08 amRacial-marxism? Can I even be bothered asking?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:27 amIt's not my obsession. You, completely unbidden wrote "Miscegenation coincides directly with Liberalism/Zionism/Marxism (your worldview)." And then you also wrote "Miscegenation also coincides with pro-Immigration policies and Desegregation (Liberalism)."

You are already blaming all the fat acceptance stuff on a marxist conspiracy, and you've introduced 'racial marxism' as some sort of problem. Typically peopel like you tend to say that zionism is the root of marxism, and your own use of "Liberalism/Zionism/Marxism (your worldview)" suggests that you are of more or less the same opinion.

half-jokingly?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:47 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:08 amThis is boring now. You proimised to just ruin me with all this racial truth, but you cannot comprehend the difference between factual demonstration and intepretive insinuation. You have had enough chances to demonstrate causal links between race and beauty that are a result of anything other than cultural preference for some skin tone or other, you've got nothing, and you possibly cannot understand the problem.

If you were going to do better you would have done so by now. Instead of addressing that problem of simple cause and effect, you've opted for some conspiracy theory about marxism that does nothing about the actual structural problems in your claim, and nobody has time for that shit. For this reason, those claims are all denied out of hand with no further consideration due.

You've already dodged the Doctoral student's sociological research and data a couple times now, along with not even reading the first source presented. Because if you had read it, then you'd know it agreed with my conclusion. There are obvious racial biases in Western civilization with regards to dating, mating, and marriage. These facts are uncomfortable to you, representing deeply uncomfortable truths, which you repress.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:47 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:08 amRacial-marxism? Can I even be bothered asking?

On Western television, commercials, movies, governmental policies, DEI corporate trainting, human resources, pretty much every aspect of Postmodern society, there is now 'forced' multi-racial inclusion. I don't expect you to understand or address this fact, because you have a one-day window of time. You don't know what happened 10 years ago, or 20 years ago, or 50 years ago. You don't know one year from the next. If you did, then you'd understand how MSM propaganda has changed, and how this relates to modern sexual standards and expectations.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:47 am

Me wrote:It's not my obsession. You, completely unbidden wrote "Miscegenation coincides directly with Liberalism/Zionism/Marxism (your worldview)." And then you also wrote "Miscegenation also coincides with pro-Immigration policies and Desegregation (Liberalism)."

You are already blaming all the fat acceptance stuff on a marxist conspiracy, and you've introduced 'racial marxism' as some sort of problem. Typically peopel like you tend to say that zionism is the root of marxism, and your own use of "Liberalism/Zionism/Marxism (your worldview)" suggests that you are of more or less the same opinion.

half-jokingly?

I see I have my work cutout for me in dispelling your ignorance.

Do you know how marketing works? It's not mere coincidence that obese women are Victoria Secret models today when this was unheard of 10 or 20 or especially 30 years ago. It's intentional. And it's not necessarily to sell more products either. Why not? Because Hollywood has recently proven that some movies are worth making, despite losing hundreds of millions or billions of dollars. Look at Disney corporation if you need an example.

Why the race-swapping all previous Disney movies? Does the public want this, or, are they being conditioned? What's the difference between a commercial and propaganda?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 11:56 am Accuse others what you are guilty of, and let them suffer the costs of the accusation. A constant 'Offensive' politicking mentality.

A Black Man Was Elected Mayor in Rural Alabama, but the White Town Leaders Won’t Let Him Serve

For at least 60 years, there’s never been an election in the town. Instead, the mantle has been treated as a “hand me down” by the small percentage of white residents ....
https://capitalbnews.org/newbern-alabama-black-mayor/

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:58 am Let the record show that I believe there are beautiful people from every race —but— some races have higher or lower averages. And it is the average that is important. Because it is the average that people see everyday, and relate to. Hence why some races feel slighted against others. Hence why some races feel it's "unfair". Hence why some races get the "short end of the stick" so-to-speak...or not even to speak, it's real. Hence why some races are taller or shorter than others. Hence why some races have more or less testosterone than others.

Flash can deny-deny-deny-deny-deny-deny-deny-deny all he wants, it doesn't matter. His denial does not change how most people feel, experience, relate to, and understand """racism""".

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:30 amYou can either explain this with race itself rather than racial bias as the cause, or you cannot. This is the last time I am bothering to engage with that question because it is obvious that you cannot, and for all your big talk about how smart you are, I see no evidence you are even smart enough to understand what I am tasking you with here.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:30 amAnd why are you presenting this as a racial fact?

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:30 amSo there's a conspiracy of race-swapping in Disney movies?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:43 am I can explain it either way, it makes no difference.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:18 amYou didn't undestand .... surprisingly.

You need to explain how the numbers show that something intrinsic to race, rather than bias either among the participiants or the observer (which is you) accounts for the phenomenon you are describing (such as white men preferring asian women on a dating site). To do that you have to show how you have removed such biases from the data, or compensated for it.

Just saying "race did it" instead of "racists did it" in a sentence doen't do that you grunting halfwit.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:34 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:18 amYou didn't undestand .... surprisingly.

You need to explain how the numbers show that something intrinsic to race, rather than bias either among the participiants or the observer (which is you) accounts for the phenomenon you are describing (such as white men preferring asian women on a dating site). To do that you have to show how you have removed such biases from the data, or compensated for it.

Just saying "race did it" instead of "racists did it" in a sentence doen't do that you grunting halfwit.

It's interesting how you pathologically ignore physical and intellectual differences between races, based on obvious and provable data, such as Height for example.

You'll likely concede the point here, that there are obvious racial differences according to height, both at the extremes and among the averages. Yet you will ignore every other distinction, like testosterone. Why is that? Could it possibly be...that you know you're sitting on a losing argument, and need to divert-divert-divert the dialogue away from my key points? Who gives a shit about bias? Are people biased for, or against, taller people? Ok, so which race is the tallest, at the extremes, and at the averages?

The data is there. It's obvious, because people see it with their own eyes, everyday. Most people trust their eyes...but you don't.

Ask yourself why not.