Reincarnation

[Age]

Still, it is a good topic to use for ridiculing folks. Almost as good for that, as Christianity.

Yes, that's what I thought, too.

Obviously.

But what happens if 'reincarnation' is ACTUALLY HAPPENING, but it is only your OWN Wrong INTERPRETATIONS of what 'reincarnation' IS, which is what is ACTUALLY BONKERS?

WHO then would be the ones of 'ridicule'?

[Age]

Thanks Veg.

(((smile)))

Have you ever noticed, no one alive ever walks around with a permanent smile on their face.

Have you ever noticed the way 'you', adult human beings, treat and mistreat children?

Maybe it's because there is nothing to smile about.

So, because human beings do not walk around ALWAYS smiling, then, to "dontaskme", this MEANS that there is absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to smile about.

Some of 'us' can RECOGNIZE and SEE the DISTORTED THINKING here straightaway.

And that we always seem to fake our smile.

So, to "dontaskme", what "dontaskme" does, automatically, transfers to what absolutely EVERY one else does.

We instinctively know that there's nothing to smile about, and that there's just a natural impartial neutrality about being alive. To Grimace or to Smile, is just a conditioned human reaction to what is essentially an indifferent cold uncaring unforgiving universe.

LOL 'you' begin to speak some sense, but then instantly KILL that off with 'your' OWN MISGUIDED, False, Wrong, and Incorrect INTERPRETATIONS.

Why do we smile for the camera, is it because that's when we get to look at ourself square in the face.

Is that WHY 'you' smile 'for the camera', "dontaskme"?

I guess we wouldn't want to know what's really lurking beneath that smile, so I guess we smile even though our heart is aching, because that's the reality of it, that's about your lot, so you better wear that smile, you better look on the bright side of life.


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IMBECILE. Y don't you learn how to quote the correct person? I never stated any of the above drivel that came from someone with NO comprehension of God.

Okay.

[Age]

As no one has managed to refute my claim that the idea of reincarnation is bonkers, I am officially declaring my assertion to be irrefutable, and that's that.

To the same extent you are unable to refute my claim that reincarnation is the truth.

In many religious and philosophical traditions, there is a belief that a soul is "the immaterial aspect or essence of a human being" that lives as a living body.

Cannot be proven atto.

But what is ACTUALLY True here has ALREADY been PROVED IRREFUTABLY True.

You’d have to be immaterial to know that immaterial actually exists as a real direct experience.

If there is such a thing as the immaterial then that must perish at the exact same time as the body.

In what ACTUAL way does the 'immaterial' 'perish'?

What if there is no birth or death for the body — what if there is only the body changing from one appearance to another.
What if birth and death are the same state, just differing in appearance that’s all?

But this is NOT a 'what if'. This is a 'what IS'.

That said, nothing is really reincarnating except nothing itself which is everything always one with itself.

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Which is HOW and WHY the 'reincarnation' does work. WHEN LOOKED AT and QUESTIONED, accurately AND properly.

[Age]

I can't remember why I started it. I was probably trying to cause trouble. All I can say for certain is that it wasn't because I'm interested in reincarnation.

Bullshit. Just like you'd claim you are not interested in whether or not God exists.

You mean god as in a creator?

Only the creator can claim to be the creator and that’s just not you is it?

You didn’t make yourself be alive did you?

You cannot claim there is a creator because even you are not creating the idea there is a creator Y because you already are prior to the claim. And you have no idea how you came to be, none whatsoever except your claim of being created….but you can’t even imagine the creator if it’s not you can you?

Do you see the dilemma?

You cannot experience yourself as the immaterial nor as a material object therefore you have to be both at the same time inseparably one not two.

Are you AWARE "dontaskme" that what you CLAIM here has ALREADY been DISCOVERED, and UNCOVERED, and is ALREADY UNDERSTOOD, and KNOWN? IRREFUTABLY SO, I will add.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

As no one has managed to refute my claim that the idea of reincarnation is bonkers, I am officially declaring my assertion to be irrefutable, and that's that.

Quantum mechanics seems bonkers too. I hope reincarnation IS bonkers. Who wants to go through this all over again?

It is an ABSOLUTE IMPOSSIBILITY for a 'you' to 'go through this all over again'. So, no matter who wants to, it is NEVER going to happen.

Next time you could be a sad little insect being slowly consumed by a bigger insect

OR, it could be said, 'you' could be a happy little insect who lives well into so-called 'old age'.

How many insects live to old age? Most get eaten, idiot, and the rest get squished or sprayed with poison which burns their insides out.

[Walker]

Yes, that's what I thought, too.

Obviously.

But what happens if 'reincarnation' is ACTUALLY HAPPENING, but it is only your OWN Wrong INTERPRETATIONS of what 'reincarnation' IS, which is what is ACTUALLY BONKERS?

WHO then would be the ones of 'ridicule'?

The ones who enter and respond to a hypothetical world such as you create with your questions, under conditions admittedly designed by the thread creator that are intended to ridicule. That's who.

[Walker]

How many insects live to old age? Most get eaten, idiot, and the rest get squished or sprayed with poison which burns their insides out.

There's always more pests where they came from.

Shirley, you know the story of DDT. After an hysterical banning of the chemical by frantic Leftists, millions of humans have died of malaria, which was getting under control before they, the crazy Leftists, stuck their snouts into it.

Do you understand that?

[attofishpi]

The ones who enter and respond to a hypothetical world such as you create with your questions, under conditions admittedly designed by the thread creator that are intended to ridicule. That's who.

WELL FUCK

..getting impatient waiting for the ridicule (ya know, the stuff that makes the concept of reincarnation absurd and implausible) FFS.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

How many insects live to old age? Most get eaten, idiot, and the rest get squished or sprayed with poison which burns their insides out.

There's always more pests where they came from.

Shirley, you know the story of DDT. After an hysterical banning of the chemical by frantic Leftists, millions of humans have died of malaria, which was getting under control before they, the crazy Leftists, stuck their snouts into it.

Do you understand that?

Go and drink some then. Do the world a favour.

[Walker]

atto:

You know that's not how it goes.
The inspectors contribute nothing worthwhile.

As you notice in VT's last posting there, they don't ever respond to content.

[Walker]

How many insects live to old age? Most get eaten, idiot, and the rest get squished or sprayed with poison which burns their insides out.

There's always more pests where they came from.

Shirley, you know the story of DDT. After an hysterical banning of the chemical by frantic Leftists, millions of humans have died of malaria, which was getting under control before they, the crazy Leftists, stuck their snouts into it.

Do you understand that?

Go and drink some then. Do the world a favour.

You have to ask nicely. Pretty please, with sugar on top.

I bet you can say it now, when you want to kill someone.

[Iwannaplato]

Gooroo talk:

If you chain an elephant it will fight the constraint. The elephant is strong enough to pull up your puny stakes. If you fight a thought it will fight the constraint while you’re watching it, and it’s strong enough to stay. You can’t fence them in, but once you can guide elephants and thoughts you can guide them to stillness and they won't go on a rampage. But guiding women? Good luck, Buck.

I don't want the role of guiding DAM. Just noting what seemed like a claim she would never change her mind about philosophy in a philosophy discussion forum while she is pontificating to others.

There's a not too pleasant dominance message in that combination.

You’re only fooling yourself with that one. You often try to guide her towards understanding the meaning of what you write, more than most try, and like I said and demonstrated for you, good luck with that.

You're likely to get a bunch of pictures and insults for your efforts. But you get no admission of understanding.

I and others here have long ago calculated the cost to benefit ratio of that little drama, (cost being the futility), and rarely need the practice of futility anymore.

Well, to some that would be a charitable interpretation of what I'm doing. I'm not taking it that way from you, just noting it. But you know it's not either or. In some situations you don't have to choose between guiding and pointing out assninities because it's pleasant to do so. Doing the latter might end up being the former. And I don't worry about intentions. Here we are dealing voices in the ether. Voices we deal with in everyday life, directly or pulling strings in the shadows, in texts or voices in the media. Systems of belief and attitudes. I don't know why other people come here, but one of the reasons I find a forum like this useful is because you can encounter these voices, some of them extremely anti-life, and interact in slow motion. Watch what they say, but also what they refuse to respond to - maybe they don't notice their own bs, maybe they notice, but can't admit it. The slow-motion aspect - words on a screen - of their responding makes it easier to notice the bs out IRL.

Hell, even a pernicious voice in the head has a harder time being effective after this kind of online interaction.

But you get no admission of understanding.

Agreed.

[Iwannaplato]

I feel like I’m stuck inside a horror movie forever trapped with no way out ever.

Well, then it must be compassion that leads to you sharing your personal philosophy with others. They are clearly missing out.

Oh yeah baby, it's all one taste. No one misses out.

Or so you hope.

One Taste.

There Is Only One Taste.

(“When I heard the bell ring, there was no I and no bell, just the ringing”)

“When I heard the sound of the bell ringing, there was no I, and no bell, just the ringing.”
–Tony Parsons

These eastern spirituality cliches have helped so much, you want to share.

I feel like I’m stuck inside a horror movie forever trapped with no way out ever.

Well, then it must be compassion that leads to you sharing your personal philosophy with others. They are clearly missing out, since it has helped you so much. Sorry, ["you"]

[Walker]

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Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response.

There's all kinds of ways to deal with folks who admittedly have no respect for words and meanings, in a dimension, a realm, where we only exist as words.

[Dontaskme]

“When I heard the sound of the bell ringing, there was no I, and no bell, just the ringing.”
–Tony Parsons

Not a Tony Parsons quote. It's Ken Wilbers, and so is the 'One Taste' Quote.

Tony is who I listen to a lot, I like the way he words the ineffable, if you care to want a taste of what that sounds like, then I highly recommend listening to him... but my guess is you've already done so, but since you have also stated 'guru shit' is not your vibe, then it'll be lost on you anyway. But then you are already familar with the nondual message, even having confessed it's not to your philosophical taste, you admit you do not like the guru vibe....but isn't that what all philosophers are doing?....what the heck are you expecting to hear in a philosophical discussion? are you expecting something no one has ever heard or talked about before, something off the scale of human understanding that has never been thought of before, something completely unique and brand new that blows the mind of every thinking philosopher making all that they had thought previously redundant and irrelevant? is that what you want? will a discussion like that tickle your fancy, stave of the boredom of listening to the same old cliches over and over again, are you just waiting for something extra tangy to wrap your lips round, something with that extra zing that goes that extra mile, and make you go Hmm!!

Is that what you are searching for?

These eastern spirituality cliches have helped so much, you want to share.

These man-made stories, aka cliches like all philosophical cliches have helped I guess, they have helped me to see the frailty and futility and fakeness of humanity and their obsession to cling to their conditioned mythical beliefs as if they were actually real....the nondual message also helped me to understand why humanities apparent separation from nature as and through the human ego, was natures biggest flaw and mistake, as nature seeks endlessly through it's dna replicating molecules for the perfect species, but has failed miserably so far..

I feel like I’m stuck inside a horror movie forever trapped with no way out ever.

Well, then it must be compassion that leads to you sharing your personal philosophy with others. They are clearly missing out, since it has helped you so much. Sorry, ["you"]

Why are you sorry? and for what are you sorry about? seems like you make an awful lot of projections, and assumptions, and beliefs about this so called ''you'' that you are sorry for...so would you care to share what these projections are? would you like to share what it is you think have helped this 'you' ?

And why are you still hanging around the ''guru vibe' that are my posts? if you are not much partial to guru vibing? do you have an axe to grind or something? do continue and share why you are still bothering to hang around.