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uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:02 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:19 am No one here is obliged to say anything, but anyone who doesn't want their opinions challenged is a fucking idiot for airing them.

if he's just another nutjob, why is it so important for you to challenge him?

As Bertrand Russell said: 'One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important.' I just think Mr Can's ideas are horrible, the way he defends them utterly dishonest and calling anyone who doesn't accept his bollocks "irrational" is a bloody cheek. Why is it so important for you to defend him?

I defend him cuz he's my friend

you challenge him why?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:10 pm

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:02 pmMr Can's ideas are horrible, the way he defends them utterly dishonest and calling anyone who doesn't accept his bollocks "irrational" is a bloody cheek. Why is it so important for you to defend him?

I defend him cuz he's my friend

you challenge him why?

Well Henry Quirk, if the reasons I have already given aren't good enough, you'll just have to live with a mystery.

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:33 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:10 pm

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:02 pmMr Can's ideas are horrible, the way he defends them utterly dishonest and calling anyone who doesn't accept his bollocks "irrational" is a bloody cheek. Why is it so important for you to defend him?

I defend him cuz he's my friend

you challenge him why?

Well Henry Quirk, if the reasons I have already given aren't good enough, you'll just have to live with a mystery.

he's a nutjob who worships a monster, who talks about it in a forum where he has no power to compel anyone to do anything

yep, I can certainly see why challengin' him is important to you

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:44 pmhe's a nutjob who worships a monster who talks about it in a forum where he has no power to compel anyone to do anything

yep, I can certainly see why challengin' him is important to you

What is your point? Do you think challenging me will achieve any more than I achieve by challenging your rude, impotent, monster worshipping, nutjob friend?

Do you think challenging me will achieve any more than I achieve by challenging your rude, impotent, monster worshipping, nutjob friend?

not really

as I say: I'm just defendin' a friend (and wonderin' why he's such a threat)

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:28 pmI'm just defendin' a friend (and wonderin' why he's such a threat)

Very noble of you, but Mr Can cannot even defend himself, he is therefore no threat.

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:53 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:28 pmI'm just defendin' a friend (and wonderin' why he's such a threat)

Very noble of you, but Mr Can cannot even defend himself, he is therefore no threat.

now I'm even more puzzled...

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:20 pm

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:53 pmVery noble of you, but Mr Can cannot even defend himself, he is therefore no threat.

now I'm even more puzzled...

Funny old world, isn't it? See, I'm slightly puzzled that you apparently think I should only engage with what I perceive as a threat. Is that why you are in this conversation? That's meant as a rhetorical question, but take it seriously if you wish.

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:38 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:20 pm

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:53 pmVery noble of you, but Mr Can cannot even defend himself, he is therefore no threat.

now I'm even more puzzled...

Funny old world, isn't it? See, I'm slightly puzzled that you apparently think I should only engage with what I perceive as a threat. Is that why you are in this conversation? That's meant as a rhetorical question, but take it seriously if you wish.

I'm motivated by curiosity

why, I ask myself, should anyone give a rude, impotent, monster worshipping, nutjob any attention?

if he's not a threat, if he offers nuthin' of value, if his view is vacant, if tusslin' with him is meaningless, then what's the point?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:44 pmI'm motivated by curiosity

why, I ask myself, should anyone give a rude, impotent, monster worshipping, nutjob any attention?

if he's not a threat, if he offers nuthin' of value, if his view is vacant, if tusslin' with him is meaningless, then what's the point?

I'm motivated by curiosity.

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:48 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:44 pmI'm motivated by curiosity

why, I ask myself, should anyone give a rude, impotent, monster worshipping, nutjob any attention?

if he's not a threat, if he offers nuthin' of value, if his view is vacant, if tusslin' with him is meaningless, then what's the point?

I'm motivated by curiosity.

really? your posts to Mannie seem more venomous than curious, but: I'm inclined to take your word

uwot is curious about a rude, impotent, monster worshipping, nutjob: okay

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:05 pm

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:48 pm I'm motivated by curiosity.

really? your posts to Mannie seem more venomous than curious, but: I'm inclined to take your word

If that were true, you would have done so here:

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:02 pmMr Can's ideas are horrible, the way he defends them utterly dishonest and calling anyone who doesn't accept his bollocks "irrational" is a bloody cheek.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:05 pmuwot is curious about a rude, impotent, monster worshipping, nutjob: okay

Well, when you said so, it was so laughably disingenuous, I thought I'd just throw it back at you.

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:39 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:05 pm

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:48 pm I'm motivated by curiosity.

really? your posts to Mannie seem more venomous than curious, but: I'm inclined to take your word

If that were true, you would have done so here:

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:02 pmMr Can's ideas are horrible, the way he defends them utterly dishonest and calling anyone who doesn't accept his bollocks "irrational" is a bloody cheek.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:05 pmuwot is curious about a rude, impotent, monster worshipping, nutjob: okay

Well, when you said so, it was so laughably disingenuous, I thought I'd just throw it back at you.

oh, I see...okay

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:55 pm what is a person?

Corporations, just ask Alito and his brethren.

Citizen's United - like Plessy vs furgusson the century before.

both oporent both fully legal both the worse rulling in centuries.

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but hey Corporations are people and money is speech - you voted for Agent Orange, and he affirm$$ money as speech and Corps as good folks, so you are fine and dandy.

gaffo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:49 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:55 pm what is a person?

Corporations, just ask Alito and his brethren.

Citizen's United - like Plessy vs furgusson the century before.

both oporent both fully legal both the worse rulling in centuries.

-

but hey Corporations are people and money is speech - you voted for Agent Orange, and he affirm$$ money as speech and Corps as good folks, so you are fine and dandy.

you voted for Agent Orange

yes, I did

wanna know why, or are you happy just throwin' crap at me?

as for personhood...

as I say: there seem to be three broad strains of thought on the subject

1-personhood is bestowed

2-personhood is intrinsic

3-personhood is illusion

most here have no real interest in the subject

you?