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Re: Coronavirus Craziness

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Walker wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:01 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:08 pm
Walker wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:22 pm
You must see deeper than a dick you see to understand.

If you put all the infected old people on cruise ships and anchor them too far off shore for anyone to swim the distance to land, then put the young people including asymptomatic corona babies in the lifeboats with the women and wannabes, pretty soon everyone on the lifeboat is going to be infected with unknown effects.

What’s going on now is stalling for time by delaying infections in order to discover treatments that will abate symptoms until a vaccine can be developed, way down the road. The stalling will continue until it cannot.

You are saying that the response is disproportionate to the threat and more damaging than the threat of coronavirus and the current total deaths, however the threat is unknown. A 1.0% death rate applied to the world population would exceed the Spanish Flu of the Dada Era in total deaths.
And most people who get it only get mild symptoms. Spanish flu targeted mostly children and young people. Fucking old people should all be euthanised anyway.
No they shouldn't. You're just being silly.

Here’s some reasoning that supports what you’re trying to say, with more in the link.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... -dr-fauci/

“The concept of “flattening” the virus curve; the presumptive reason for social distancing and shutting down the U.S. economy; is based on a theory to extend the spread of COVID-19 to a lesser incident rate over a longer duration, thereby lessening the burden on the U.S. healthcare system. Hence, ‘flatten’ the spike in infections.

“Put another way: 'Flattening' means the same number of people eventually contract the virus, only they do so over a longer period of time, and the healthcare system can treat everyone because the numbers do not rise to level where the system is overloaded. In theory that seems to make sense.

“However, no-one is asking: what is the current stress level on the healthcare system right now? Where are we in that capacity?… and what is normal capacity level during a high-level flu outbreak?… and Where are we when compared against that baseline?”
Exactly. People are idiots. They think it's going to magically get rid of the virus, when all they are trying to do is slow its progress (supposedly). We have essentially become a Police State here (you can get arrested for being out and about) and I wonder if that will reverse back when this is over.
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Walker wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:04 pm In the US, at some point Trump will probably stop listening to the doctors because the cure is worse than the disease.

Grounds for impeachment.
Stupidity is not a crime.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:57 pm
commonsense wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:48 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:05 pm At least politician have their priorities in order. Can't go for a walk with a family member but at least we can still get alcohol--apparently it's an 'essential item'. No doubt there has been plenty of behind the scenes palm greasing, for the liqour industry to weasel THAT exemption.
Never mind all the small businesses that will suffer.
Now all the old alcoholics can sit at home and die of alcohol poisoning instead of coronavirus (which probably wouldn't have killed them anyway), while the rest of us go quietly insane at home to 'save' the old farts.
Why don’t you knock on doors and infect old farts?
Infect them with what? It's just as well that coronavirus droplets get neutralised when people enter a liquor store :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You should infect them with your venom!
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commonsense wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:30 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:57 pm
commonsense wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:48 pm

Why don’t you knock on doors and infect old farts?
Infect them with what? It's just as well that coronavirus droplets get neutralised when people enter a liquor store :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You should infect them with your venom!
What about all the venom directed at children, who are less of a risk to others than anyone. You should see all the dirty, venomous looks I get from olds when I take my granddaughter to the supermarket or for a walk. Children have become pariahs and are being treated as disease-carrying vermin because of old people's jealousy.
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that's not a child, it is a choice

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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:57 pm Infect them with what? It's just as well that coronavirus droplets get neutralised when people enter a liquor store :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is true - the more drunk you are the less infectious you are. I keep telling all the Muslims this so hopefully they will become true Aussies one day - and we can all get along and have a sing song..
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:32 am
commonsense wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:30 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:57 pm

Infect them with what? It's just as well that coronavirus droplets get neutralised when people enter a liquor store :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You should infect them with your venom!
What about all the venom directed at children, who are less of a risk to others than anyone. You should see all the dirty, venomous looks I get from olds when I take my granddaughter to the supermarket or for a walk. Children have become pariahs and are being treated as disease-carrying vermin because of old people's jealousy.
Maybe your granddaughter and you are pissing them off.
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commonsense wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:35 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:04 pm In the US, at some point Trump will probably stop listening to the doctors because the cure is worse than the disease.

Grounds for impeachment.
Stupidity is not a crime.
He will eventually stop listening to their advice about stopping the economy, because eventually stopping the economy will cause more deaths than the virus.

Off-label use of drugs is already looking encouraging as a treatment.
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commonsense wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:15 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:32 am
commonsense wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:30 pm

You should infect them with your venom!
What about all the venom directed at children, who are less of a risk to others than anyone. You should see all the dirty, venomous looks I get from olds when I take my granddaughter to the supermarket or for a walk. Children have become pariahs and are being treated as disease-carrying vermin because of old people's jealousy.
Maybe your granddaughter and you are pissing them off.
Is that really what you think? Or are you just being an old kunt?
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attofishpi wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:04 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:57 pm Infect them with what? It's just as well that coronavirus droplets get neutralised when people enter a liquor store :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is true - the more drunk you are the less infectious you are. I keep telling all the Muslims this so hopefully they will become true Aussies one day - and we can all get along and have a sing song..
I like you fish pie. You just need to ditch the superstiton and trust your natural intelligence more.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:58 am
attofishpi wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:04 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:57 pm Infect them with what? It's just as well that coronavirus droplets get neutralised when people enter a liquor store :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is true - the more drunk you are the less infectious you are. I keep telling all the Muslims this so hopefully they will become true Aussies one day - and we can all get along and have a sing song..
I like you fish pie. You just need to ditch the superstiton and trust your natural intelligence more.
Hey everyone! Veg likes someone! - and of course it's one of the most obnoxious blokes on the forum!

Now Veg - I am not in the least bit superstitious, so if you don't mind clarifying what it is that I am superstitious about?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:55 am
commonsense wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:15 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:32 am

What about all the venom directed at children, who are less of a risk to others than anyone. You should see all the dirty, venomous looks I get from olds when I take my granddaughter to the supermarket or for a walk. Children have become pariahs and are being treated as disease-carrying vermin because of old people's jealousy.
Maybe your granddaughter and you are pissing them off.
Is that really what you think? Or are you just being an old kunt?
No, but since you two are experiencing dirty looks from many old cunts, maybe the cunts represent crowd wisdom.
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commonsense wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:56 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:55 am
commonsense wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:15 am

Maybe your granddaughter and you are pissing them off.
Is that really what you think? Or are you just being an old kunt?
No, but since you two are experiencing dirty looks from many old cunts, maybe the cunts represent crowd wisdom.
Didn't know there was any such thing as 'crowd wisdom'. I would have thought that was an oxymoron.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:15 pm
commonsense wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:56 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:55 am

Is that really what you think? Or are you just being an old kunt?
No, but since you two are experiencing dirty looks from many old cunts, maybe the cunts represent crowd wisdom.
Didn't know there was any such thing as 'crowd wisdom'. I would have thought that was an oxymoron.
The wisdom of the crowd is an oxymoronic thing. Do keep up with the millennials and their vocabulary. :)
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A funny story

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Since the border closures around the states in Australia, some bloke revealed that his house straddles QLD-NSW border and that when he is on one side of his house his phone has the QLD time showing, and NSW when he is on the other!

..personally I think there should be a border patrol officer in his hallway.
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