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Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:55 am
by Arising_uk
No, I use it to drink and cook with.
Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:00 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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And so you cling to it.
Pouring the empty into the emptiness.
Let go.
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Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:57 am
by Arising_uk
Cling to what? Get a grip.
Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:40 am
by Bill Wiltrack
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We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us.
~~~ Einstein ~~~
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Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:16 pm
by Barbara Brooks
And now they find ~~~ Einstein ~~~
is wrong!
Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:30 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Welcome Barbara Brooks!
Thank you for posting here.
I'm not sure I understand your last post here but you don't need to explain it.
I'm just happy you have broken out!
Again, welcome.
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Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:39 pm
by Barbara Brooks
You made me.
New Delhi; IBNLive.com: Will Einstein's 1905 theory of relativity - one of the most fundamental pillars of physics - that underpins "nothing can travel faster than light-300,000 kms, or 186,000 miles, per second" be proved wrong? The speculations started coming after scientists at the world's largest physics lab CERN claim to have clocked sub-atomic particles or neutrinos travelling faster than the speed of light.
European Organization for Nuclear Research CERN, near Geneva, says a neutrino beam shot off from a particle accelerator near Geneva to a lab 730 km away in Italy, whooshed 60 nanoseconds faster than light, with a speed of 186,282 miles per second.
But, how could the fact be ignored that Einstein's theory has been tested thousands of times over the past 106 years? And, only recently have here been just slight hints that the behaviour of some elementary particles of matter might not fit into it.
If the findings by the CERN are correct, it would force an overhaul of the fundamental laws of nature and how the universe works. These particles are 6 km/second faster than light, which is strange because 100 years ago, Einstein suggested nothing can go faster than light. If these scientists are right and Einstein was wrong, whatever we know about our Universe will soon be turned on its head.
Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:46 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Thank you Barbara!
Einstein may have been a bit off in his measurements and theories but I think he was dead nuts on when he stated,
We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us.
~~~ Einstein ~~~
Thank you Barbara for adding to this thread.
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Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:18 pm
by Barbara Brooks
His theories on atomic energy I feel were without thought of tomorrow and we are now paying the consequences.
Biased facts selectively presented (thus possibly lying) to encourage a particular synthesis, using loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political, or other type of agenda. We have been in an age of propaganda which has caused so many political wars.
I am so glad you are not angry with me.
Thanks for the welcome,
BB
Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:26 pm
by Arising_uk
If your Einstein quote is true Bill then he can't say "we"?
And if it is true and you believe it then why do you post the stuff you do?
Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:17 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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It's true. I believe it. That's why I post the stuff I do.
Good questions.
Thank you for participating upon this thread.
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Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:21 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Barbara, you are a dream.
I just wanted to coax you away from that singular topic area so that you would share your views and philosophical insights upon other forum topic headings.
In this way others will benefit from your opinions and you may even expand your knowledge.
Cheers!
And nothing but the best to you Barbara!
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Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:51 pm
by puto
Bill, you still post pictures, and now you are into paradox's. You do not know anything about philosophy do you

People have been trying to help you understand what philosophy is, and is not, but you don't seem to understand what philosophy is, and is not.
Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:17 pm
by bus2bondi
i know better than saying this but, your pictures of einstein deeply remind me of my uncle. the persons funeral i went to last year. i never realized how they looked as twins, until now. the funeral, that i unpurposefully invaded your art thread with.
Re: “You only lose what you cling to.”
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:15 pm
by bus2bondi
the first picture, i can't place it. it is just him. the second is with his wife. on thier bedroom 'stand'. after the funeral i was in their bedroom where everyone laid there coats and i 'viewed' it frequently. quite often as i often went out for a cigarette, needed my jacket for the cold. leaving things out, like, tears, pain, etc.. the third, him at my dads, table, drunk. not the only time.