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Its what gandhi and the boers quaintly called the black south africans.

I think the good Reverend might disagree with you.
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Great posts Chaz.


Thank you for keeping your head on straight.


Thank you for participating in this thread.


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Arising_uk wrote:Its what gandhi and the boers quaintly called the black south africans.

I think the good Reverend might disagree with you.
You might like to look at Hitchens' remarks on MLK and the army of atheist and secular friends he chose to surround himself with.
There is no doubt that MLK manipulated the church and its followers to progress the movement, though.
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Here is an excerpt from Dr. Kink's "Letter from Birmingham Jail", written in 1963, is a "passionate" statement of his crusade for justice. On October 14, 1964, King became the youngest recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, which was awarded to him for leading non-violent resistance to racial prejudice in the United States


All I'm saying is simply this, that all life is interrelated, that somehow we're caught in an inescapable network of mutuality tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly affects all indirectly. For some strange reason, I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. You can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be. This is the interrelated structure of reality.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.





Another paraphrase from an old American Indian saying, a saying that the esteemed Dr. Martin Luther King had occasionally used and lived by: If you have nothing to die for...you have nothing to live for.

So prophetic, so sad, and so very brave.





Astonishing...I've said it before; If African Americans were a separate race, which I know they are not, they would dominate over all other races on earth.


I can't think of a Caucasian philosopher that even comes close to the heart of the African-American, the late, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr..







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Given you've never read any philosophers I not surprised you can't think of any but just for you.

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.

Changed the world.
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chaz wyman wrote:You might like to look at Hitchens' remarks on MLK and the army of atheist and secular friends he chose to surround himself with.
There is no doubt that MLK manipulated the church and its followers to progress the movement, though.
I wasn't saying he was exclusive? Just that being a reverend I'd presume he drew his strength from his faith.
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Arising_uk wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:You might like to look at Hitchens' remarks on MLK and the army of atheist and secular friends he chose to surround himself with.
There is no doubt that MLK manipulated the church and its followers to progress the movement, though.
I wasn't saying he was exclusive? Just that being a reverend I'd presume he drew his strength from his faith.
And I was saying he got his strength from others. His faith is a chimera. Without people his movement was more like a shit.
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Why would you think a reverends faith to be a chimera?
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Arising_uk wrote:Why would you think a reverends faith to be a chimera?

Of course.
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chaz wyman wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:Why would you think a reverends faith to be a chimera?
Of course.
"Of course"? Why would you think a reverends faith to be a chimera to themselves? Because you do not share it?
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I find it amusing that secularists try to embrace the image of a reverend and claim that the devout christian was really an atheist who was preaching for state control of the economy...

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Arising_uk wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:Why would you think a reverends faith to be a chimera?
Of course.
"Of course"? Why would you think a reverends faith to be a chimera to themselves? Because you do not share it?

No, because all Faith (with a capital F) is chimeric by nature.
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Impenitent wrote:I find it amusing that secularists try to embrace the image of a reverend and claim that the devout christian was really an atheist who was preaching for state control of the economy...

-Imp

Who is this to whom you refer?
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In the realm of philosophy I’m not sure there is an overall voice of authority.


At times, the drug addicted is just as insightful as the doctorate.

If you are questioning my authority – that’s GREAT. I know myself well enough to know that I am not an authority on anything.

However, I do have an opinion, and as I re-read my original post I am even more impressed with the philosophical life of the late Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.


He talked the talk and he walked the walk.


Dr. King
gave his life for what he believed in. Through a strange set of circumstances he gave his life for his philosophical views. If you are looking for philosophical authority I would set my cross hairs right there.


The knowledge that if need be an individual would give their life for something they believe in changes an individual.


Inwardly, as I read again King’s quotes from the original thread they are jarring. They stop everything and philosophically, make you look at life differently from that moment on. I believe that is what true philosophy is meant to do.

Outwardly,
if you are looking for authority or an authority figure, Dr. King was the youngest Nobel Peace Prize winner.

For me, one of the most important philosophical aspects of Dr. Martin Luther King is that he associated worker rights with civil rights. Rev. King died while on a trip in support of the garbage workers union in Memphis, Tennessee.


Reverend Martin Luther King Jr., The Bravest Philosopher of Our Time...






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Bill, just admit that you do not know philosophy :!: What it is, or how to do it :!:
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