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Truth can’t lie. All lies are the truth.

God is Truth.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:44 pm Truth can’t lie. All lies are the truth.

God is Truth.

Liar.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:50 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:44 pm Truth can’t lie. All lies are the truth.

God is Truth.

Liar.

Is that the truth?

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:50 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:44 pm Truth can’t lie. All lies are the truth.

God is Truth.

Liar.

If God is not truth and you are the God you claim to be, then why should you be trusted?

Dialectical theology meaning theological truth-grace and wrath, time and eternity, God and humanity, and so on. Divine truth cannot be synthesized or articulated except by God-given faith.
Demoss, Matthew S, and Miller, Edward J, "Dialectical theology," Zondervan Dictionary of Bible and Theology words, 2002 CE, Digital

puto wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 11:28 am Dialectical theology meaning theological truth-grace and wrath, time and eternity, God and humanity, and so on. Divine truth cannot be synthesized or articulated except by God-given faith.
Demoss, Matthew S, and Miller, Edward J, "Dialectical theology," Zondervan Dictionary of Bible and Theology words, 2002 CE, Digital

If God does not intervene in history but is wholly immanent then divine truth can indeed be synthesised. Inductive reasoning is telling stories. Stories are synthesised.

Concerning "God-given " faith. Man is endowed with reason which he is duty -bound to use .When man was expelled from Eden , God did not disenfranchise man from using his reason.

The Age of Faith is over. We now live in the Age of Reason.

Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:55 pm
The Age of Faith is over. We now live in the Age of Reason.

It takes faith to have reason. They are complimentary opposites.

Fairy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:07 pm

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:50 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:44 pm Truth can’t lie. All lies are the truth.

God is Truth.

Liar.

Is that the truth?

Yes, says my dictionary.

You might try reading the Bible.

It is clear at a number of places that God is a liar and even put's lies on the lips of prophets.

All genocidal Trinity God's are liars.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 24, 2025 5:02 am

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:50 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:44 pm Truth can’t lie. All lies are the truth.

God is Truth.

Liar.

If God is not truth and you are the God you claim to be, then why should you be trusted?

If God is only the creator of truth, then who is the creator of lies?

The whole of Job says that we are to thank God for all that is. Especially Job 2.3 that has God admitting that Satan moved him to do evil without a just cause.

If you meant me stepping up as my own God and master, and especially as final judge of things, then, as
the Bible is clear on, when it has Jesus saying that anything he says of himself cannot be trusted.

Like Jesus, I want you to think before agreeing to anything and take your just rewards. That is the esoteric Jesus and not the damned Armageddon one so many fools believe in.

puto wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 11:28 am Dialectical theology meaning theological truth-grace and wrath, time and eternity, God and humanity, and so on. Divine truth cannot be synthesized or articulated except by God-given faith.
Demoss, Matthew S, and Miller, Edward J, "Dialectical theology," Zondervan Dictionary of Bible and Theology words, 2002 CE, Digital

Nothing quite like grace from God to screw up ones free will.

Are non-believers doomed by Divine Design?

Scriptures say that God decides if a person will be a believer or non-believer. Those scriptures are shown in this link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byHYeHN4ZUQ

Those quotes seem to really screw up the free will notion that Christians say God gives us.

The free will that God offers is kind of a joke anyway given the number of people whose free will to live is ignored in the billions of adults, children and babies that God is shown to torture and murder in scriptures.

If the bible and Yahweh are to be believed, and as a non-believer, I, of course, cannot believe it, thanks to God, by God’s design and will against me, then why did God deny me belief or faith?

Even more important to believers, might be to answer the question of; did God make you a believer in things that you can only hope exists and can never confirm?

Are you happy with God ignoring or negating your free will to think as you please?

I have assumed that God’s work of creating both believers and non-believers is working. If that is so, and you believers must think it so, just as I as a non-believer cannot think it is working, --- and Jesus said that those with faith could do all he did and more, --- then there is not even one believer or person of faith that has ever existed.

Either the bible and Christianity is all a lie, or there must be some who can do what Jesus did.


What is your choice of those two options?

Is the bible and Christianity a lie, or is God just not creating any people with faith, --- which would make all Christians who say they have faith, --- liars.

I mean no insult here but someone is definitely lying, if we read what is written and look at reality and listen to Christians.

What do you think is the truth?

Is it just for God to create people doomed to hell even if they wanted to believe?

Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:55 pm

puto wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 11:28 am Dialectical theology meaning theological truth-grace and wrath, time and eternity, God and humanity, and so on. Divine truth cannot be synthesized or articulated except by God-given faith.
Demoss, Matthew S, and Miller, Edward J, "Dialectical theology," Zondervan Dictionary of Bible and Theology words, 2002 CE, Digital

If God does not intervene in history but is wholly immanent then divine truth can indeed be synthesised. Inductive reasoning is telling stories. Stories are synthesised.

Concerning "God-given " faith. Man is endowed with reason which he is duty -bound to use .When man was expelled from Eden , God did not disenfranchise man from using his reason.

The Age of Faith is over. We now live in the Age of Reason.

I so wish that were true for the believers who somehow think that God makes souls of differing vales, good and evil, that we must hate even as we reproduce them.

Them being our LGBTQ+ brothers and sisters.

So much for all being created equal.

Fairy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 28, 2025 11:17 am

Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:55 pm
The Age of Faith is over. We now live in the Age of Reason.

It takes faith to have reason. They are complimentary opposites.

Indeed.

The line is supernatural thinking.

Faith without facts is for fools.

"I hain't ever said I was the best at telling the truth. I've told some whoppers in my time, and I'm going to keep it up just to stay in practice." Huckleberry Finn

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Oct 01, 2025 12:50 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 28, 2025 11:17 am

Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:55 pm
The Age of Faith is over. We now live in the Age of Reason.

It takes faith to have reason. They are complimentary opposites.

Indeed.

The line is supernatural thinking.

Faith without facts is for fools.

Without faith, there are no facts.

Alexiev wrote: ↑Wed Oct 01, 2025 12:55 am "I hain't ever said I was the best at telling the truth. I've told some whoppers in my time, and I'm going to keep it up just to stay in practice." Huckleberry Finn

Intent is all.

Mens rea. Latin for evil intent or mindedness.