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Re: An Idea
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 1:41 pm
by popeye1945
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:23 am
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 4:36 am
Fairy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 19, 2025 10:25 am
Words should express ideas, not originate them.
All words are qualifications and/or limitations.
And they are also emptiness pouring into the void.
If you mean to say that meaning is pouring into the void of a meaningless world, this kind of makes sense, as without consciousness, there is nothing.
Re: An Idea
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 2:52 pm
by Fairy
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 1:41 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:23 am
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 4:36 am
All words are qualifications and/or limitations.
And they are also emptiness pouring into the void.
If you mean to say that meaning is pouring into the void of a meaningless world, this kind of makes sense, as without consciousness, there is nothing.
Without consciousness there is nothing, yes, and yet with consciousness there is a conscious awareness of the void.
Re: An Idea
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:01 pm
by popeye1945
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 2:52 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 1:41 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:23 am
And they are also emptiness pouring into the void.
If you mean to say that meaning is pouring into the void of a meaningless world, this kind of makes sense, as without consciousness, there is nothing.
Without consciousness, there is nothing, yes, and yet with consciousness, there is a conscious awareness of the void.
What are you calling the void?
Re: An Idea
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:53 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 12:11 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 12:03 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 10:13 am
I have no idea about that unless I imagine I have.
All thoughts of temporal phenomena are past and future "nows". The now is not only here but in the past and future.
Yes, and “death” has a beginning but no discernible end.
The same can be said of life, they are but reflections of eachother in the process of change.
Re: An Idea
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:02 am
by Fairy
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:01 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 2:52 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 1:41 pm
If you mean to say that meaning is pouring into the void of a meaningless world, this kind of makes sense, as without consciousness, there is nothing.
Without consciousness, there is nothing, yes, and yet with consciousness, there is a conscious awareness of the void.
What are you calling the void?
I don’t know, that’s the thing, I can only imagine something.
Void is the awareness of the emptiness of everything. Insofar as Nothing lasts forever. Everything eventually goes dark and silent. It’s too mysterious, but curiosity makes something out of nothing every time.
Re: An Idea
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:05 am
by Fairy
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:53 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 12:11 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 12:03 pm
All thoughts of temporal phenomena are past and future "nows". The now is not only here but in the past and future.
Yes, and “death” has a beginning but no discernible end.
The same can be said of life, they are but reflections of eachother in the process of change.
Yes, but nothing ever changes, ultimately. Life and death are the same state, appearing different, apparently.
Re: An Idea
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:34 am
by Eodnhoj7
Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:05 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:53 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 12:11 pm
Yes, and “death” has a beginning but no discernible end.
The same can be said of life, they are but reflections of eachother in the process of change.
Yes, but nothing ever changes, ultimately. Life and death are the same state, appearing different, apparently.
Differences occur by change for change is what allows distinction to occur.
Re: An Idea
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 7:01 am
by Fairy
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:34 am
Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:05 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:53 pm
The same can be said of life, they are but reflections of eachother in the process of change.
Yes, but nothing ever changes, ultimately. Life and death are the same state, appearing different, apparently.
Differences occur by change for change is what allows distinction to occur.
It’s a plausible idea considering the idea springs forth from a transparent mind floating in nothingness creating form and destroying it over and over in a very fluid shape shifting way.
The Universe is Mental, it is a mind that literally imagines everything.
This would make a rather interesting conversation during a meal in some crowded restaurant. Imagine the faces on the eavesdroppers.

Re: An Idea
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:32 am
by Eodnhoj7
Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 28, 2025 7:01 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:34 am
Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:05 am
Yes, but nothing ever changes, ultimately. Life and death are the same state, appearing different, apparently.
Differences occur by change for change is what allows distinction to occur.
It’s a plausible idea considering the idea springs forth from a transparent mind floating in nothingness creating form and destroying it over and over in a very fluid shape shifting way.
The Universe is Mental, it is a mind that literally imagines everything.
This would make a rather interesting conversation during a meal in some crowded restaurant. Imagine the faces on the eavesdroppers.
Lol...true.
Re: An Idea
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2025 6:40 pm
by Fairy
“Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,
there is a field. I’ll meet you there.
When the soul lies down in that grass,
the world is too full to talk about.
Ideas, language, even the phrase “each other”
doesn’t make any sense.
The breeze at dawn has secrets to tell you.
Don’t go back to sleep.
You must ask for what you really want.
Don’t go back to sleep.
People are going back and forth across the doorsill
where the two worlds touch.
The door is round and open.
Don’t go back to sleep.”
When you get the message you can hang up the phone. You don't have to wrestle with thought or fill the mind with any of this theory anymore, this is Liberation.
You can rest as Self-Awareness without that concept even. It just sticks there on it’s own. You don't need to try anymore, unless you want to for fun. All pointers can be dropped for Liberation.