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Re: Why it is Possible that Christianity May be Legitimate

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 6:26 pm
by Flannel Jesus
Most religions have sacrifice as a central concept. The argument in your op could be used to say just about any religion is "legitimate", which is one of the things that make it such a bad argument. It's just so general and unspecific.

The other thing of course is the complete lack of meaning in the idea of sacrifice being the bedrock of reality.

Re: Why it is Possible that Christianity May be Legitimate

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 11:02 pm
by MikeNovack
Maybe we have more luck if we thought about what might make a religion "not legitimate". If we fail to do that (can find none) then we would have to conclude all religions legitimate and since Christianity a religion, Christianity is legitimate <stronger than we needed;if it is, then certainly it may be>

Any ideas? What might make a religion illegitimate?

Re: Why it is Possible that Christianity May be Legitimate

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:57 am
by Eodnhoj7
Flannel Jesus wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:53 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:37 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 6:22 am

Sure they're inevitable, bad interpretations are inevitable too. Interpretations that use that waffling sophistry type of "philosophy" to say a while bunch of nothing.

The power ranger religion is legitimate because the ultimate nature of reality is rooted in power crystals.

That just doesn't mean anything man.
And what determines one interpretation as bad and the other good without resorting to a meta-interpretation?

The fundamental aspect of the reality we know is change, change requires a negation through dissolution.
Well yours is bad because it's just a word salad that you can plug any word into in place of sacrifice. It's just made up poetic nonsense that lacks substance. Some people think that's what philosophy is about. Sometimes it is.
If all things are subject to change, are sacrificial by nature of time, then of course any word or thing can be placed within it. A universal metaphysical system would be so subtle that it would effectively underlie any and everything.

I think you fail to see that the statement "reality is sacrificial by nature" is an underlying subtley that effectively encapsulates all things.

If there is an underlying principle, or principles, they would manifest through all things to such an extent that to grasp such a principle would effectively be to use it.