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promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:25 pm No, you guys still don't get it with Age. He's not a Nazi, just an autistic resident contrarian. If you're sidin with the Joos, he's gotta side with the Nazis for a minute so he can challenge your claims. Duddint matter what the content of the argument is. He's gonna play the socrates that takes the counter position. You say the Red Sox are better. He'll say the White Sox could be better unless we irrefutably clarify.

I have no interest in 'getting' him and I certainly don't need your mansplanations. I'm quite capable of working people out for myself.

Maia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:31 pm

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:25 pm No, you guys still don't get it with Age. He's not a Nazi, just an autistic resident contrarian. If you're sidin with the Joos, he's gotta side with the Nazis for a minute so he can challenge your claims. Duddint matter what the content of the argument is. He's gonna play the socrates that takes the counter position. You say the Red Sox are better. He'll say the White Sox could be better unless we irrefutably clarify.

Being a contrarian is fine, and all, but I completely disagree with that.

You being funny?

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:25 pm

Maia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:31 pm

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:25 pm No, you guys still don't get it with Age. He's not a Nazi, just an autistic resident contrarian. If you're sidin with the Joos, he's gotta side with the Nazis for a minute so he can challenge your claims. Duddint matter what the content of the argument is. He's gonna play the socrates that takes the counter position. You say the Red Sox are better. He'll say the White Sox could be better unless we irrefutably clarify.

Being a contrarian is fine, and all, but I completely disagree with that.

You being funny?

Probably not very.

Anyway, back to the travelogue. I think I skipped over Jerusalem a bit in my opening post.

The hotel we stayed at was on top of the Mount of Olives, outside the Old City walls, and adjoined the Church of the Ascension, from which spot, allegedly, Jesus ascended to heaven. From there, there was an extremely steep road, enclosed by high walls, leading down to the Old City. About half way down was the entrance to the Garden of Gethsemane, which we had a brief walk round. It had some extremely ancient olive trees in it, warm to the touch, in neat little square allotments. At the bottom of the hill we came to the Valley of Kidron, and had to cross a busy, multi-lane motorway to get to the Old City, which we entered via St. Stephen's Gate. My overriding impression of the Old City was of an enclosed, very crowded sort of place, which I didn't much like. I appreciated the history, of course, walking in the footsteps of so many famous people and events. We didn't get a chance to go up onto the Temple Mount, sadly, as there was a huge queue. We did, however, have time to go in a Pizza Hut right in the centre, for much needed refreshments.

We also visited the Hebrew University, and met up with a group of blind students, who told us what it was like there. And then, later, we went for a meal.

Early on both mornings, at the hotel, we heard church bells ring out from very close by, presumably the Church of the Ascension, though the whole area was full of churches and monasteries, so it could have been any of them. Then, just a few minutes later, we heard the Muslim call to prayer, also from very near. And then, a few minutes after that, the church bells again. They must have had some sort of agreement to take it in turns, rather than trying to drown each other out.

I think Jerusalem is one of those places that anyone interested in history should visit at least once, and I'm very glad to have been able to. It was a bit rushed, as we only had one full day there, but even so, it was worth it.

"Being a contrarian is fine, and all, but I completely disagree with that"

You don't imagine him to be like an old Macintosh programmed to identify simple argument algorithms and produce counter-arguments just for the hell of it? Maybe I'm wrong. I just thought he was obsessed with debate to the point of having a brain that won't let him agree with anything or anyone ever. It's a mode of being for Age. He's a mode, I should say. Simple but deterninate and relentless. A rare rainmanian black swan event at a forum. He's not a schizo like the the others or a sociopath like me and fishpie and godelian. He's one of the first real forum brainiacs with assburgers. That other guy that always said the weirdest shit... the guy with the vampire name. No longer around. He was another one but he had a unique disassociative language thing going on where no linear sense could be made out of any of it. Like a computer trying to become and work out a human language.

Damn dude you didn't give me any time to reply... now I look like I'm derailing the thread again.

Okay I now declare this matter resolved and we shall return to our regularly travelogued program.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:43 pm "Being a contrarian is fine, and all, but I completely disagree with that"

You don't imagine him to be like an old Macintosh programmed to identify simple argument algorithms and produce counter-arguments just for the hell of it? Maybe I'm wrong. I just thought he was obsessed with debate to the point of having a brain that won't let him agree with anything or anyone ever. It's a mode of being for Age. He's a mode, I should say. Simple but deterninate and relentless. A rare rainmanian black swan event at a forum. He's not a schizo like the the others or a sociopath like me and fishpie and godelian. He's one of the first real forum brainiacs with assburgers. That other guy that always said the weirdest shit... the guy with the vampire name. No longer around. He was another one but he had a unique disassociative language thing going on where no linear sense could be made out of any of it. Like a computer trying to become and work out a human language.

It does seem like that sometimes but what's with all the "in the time this was being written" or whatever it is? I don't think he's adequately explained that.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:46 pm Damn dude you didn't give me any time to reply... now I look like I'm derailing the thread again.

Okay I now declare this matter resolved and we shall return to our regularly travelogued program.

It's ok, derail away.

That "time when this was written" thing is one of those speech quirks that these guys often have. And he's not even trying to sound like a guy trying to sound like a Moses when he does that. He actually does it for real. He picked the phrase up somewhere, and now it's a permanent fixture in his speech. He is totally unaware that he sounds like Moses. Truly remarkable.

Btw, while i do love you dearly, Maia, her majesty, and the seven houses of the town hall counsels of her majesty's court would never permit it, and you know that.

We would have to throw ourselves off a bridge to be together lest i be imprisoned in a dark and damp cell with stone walls and a chain shackled around my leg, and you dressed in a very unsexy burlap sack looking 18th century dress i would never endeavor to see you in and burned at a stake in her majesty's town square with raving british conservatives all around holding torches and chanting bloody this and bloody that.

That's how my fate has it with good women. The bad ones, no problem. They're everywhere and nobody objects. But to get a good one, she'd have to be willing to become a character in a shakesperean tragedy, or I'd have to face a king's army or an armed civilian militia.

p brain wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:43 pm "Being a contrarian is fine, and all, but I completely disagree with that"

You don't imagine him to be like an old Macintosh programmed to identify simple argument algorithms and produce counter-arguments just for the hell of it? Maybe I'm wrong. I just thought he was obsessed with debate to the point of having a brain that won't let him agree with anything or anyone ever. It's a mode of being for Age. He's a mode, I should say. Simple but deterninate and relentless. A rare rainmanian black swan event at a forum. He's not a schizo like the the others or a sociopath like me and fishpie and godelian. He's one of the first real forum brainiacs with assburgers. That other guy that always said the weirdest shit... the guy with the vampire name. No longer around. He was another one but he had a unique disassociative language thing going on where no linear sense could be made out of any of it. Like a computer trying to become and work out a human language.

You are so unfunny it's not funny, and nearly as annoying as Age. No one needs your disingenuous amateur psychoanalysis. Not sure why you would include fishpi as being 'sociopathic'. Actually it's just a fancy word for a total arsehole and yes, it applies to you and godelian. Odd 'coincidence' that you are both male and both try to turn macho strutting into an art form (unsuccessfully).
What on earth is 'brainiac' about Age? I've never seen him write anything interesting or intelligent. All his posts are identical so you only have to read one of them. His Hitler comment is the only honest thing he's ever said. Now we all know him for what he is. You are only flying to his defence because he's a Jew-hater like you. There was some other idiot on here you were praising for their 'genius' who had the insight of a broom. I think he ended up being banned for life. You are like the characters swooning over everything Peter Sellers said in 'Being There'. Moron.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:24 pm That "time when this was written" thing is one of those speech quirks that these guys often have. And he's not even trying to sound like a guy trying to sound like a Moses when he does that. He actually does it for real. He picked the phrase up somewhere, and now it's a permanent fixture in his speech. He is totally unaware that he sounds like Moses. Truly remarkable.

Btw, while i do love you dearly, Maia, her majesty, and the seven houses of the town hall counsels of her majesty's court would never permit it, and you know that.

We would have to throw ourselves off a bridge to be together lest i be imprisoned in a dark and damp cell with stone walls and a chain shackled around my leg, and you dressed in a very unsexy burlap sack looking 18th century dress i would never endeavor to see you in and burned at a stake in her majesty's town square with raving british conservatives all around holding torches and chanting bloody this and bloody that.

That's how my fate has it with good women. The bad ones, no problem. They're everywhere and nobody objects. But to get a good one, she'd have to be willing to become a character in a shakesperean tragedy, or I'd have to face a king's army or an armed civilian militia.

Damn, I hadn't thought of that. Oh well, I'm sure I'll get over it.

I know this is hard, and being nonchalant about it may be the best way for you to express those troubling feelings, but i need you to be strong right now, Maia.

Prom is in rare form. A true chivalrous gentleman! (I did say "rare" form, right?)

EDIT: [Just joking around, BTW. Prom is fine in my book.]

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:25 pm No, you guys still don't get it with Age. He's not a Nazi, just an autistic resident contrarian. If you're sidin with the Joos, he's gotta side with the Nazis for a minute so he can challenge your claims. Duddint matter what the content of the argument is. He's gonna play the socrates that takes the counter position. You say the Red Sox are better. He'll say the White Sox could be better unless we irrefutably clarify.

It is great to see that some people actually get 'it'.

But just to be clear, I do not 'side' with absolutely any thing, here. Except, of course, for the children and babies, which you adult human beings are dropping bombs on, taking homes from, and depriving shelter, food, medicine, help, care, guidance, and love from.

Maia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:31 pm

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:25 pm No, you guys still don't get it with Age. He's not a Nazi, just an autistic resident contrarian. If you're sidin with the Joos, he's gotta side with the Nazis for a minute so he can challenge your claims. Duddint matter what the content of the argument is. He's gonna play the socrates that takes the counter position. You say the Red Sox are better. He'll say the White Sox could be better unless we irrefutably clarify.

Being a contrarian is fine, and all, but I completely disagree with that.

What is 'that', exactly?

What is 'it' that you, completely, disagree with, here?