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Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 8:39 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 10:01 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 3:27 am
Phil8659 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:34 am
I would never have thought of pure gibberish. Must be the reality of an empty brain.
No one can predicate existence. All anyone can do is name the elements of a thing; its limits, i.e., noun and its relative difference, i.e., verb. Now, from the start, use this binary to form a geometric figure called a simple line segment.
Take a segment and label it at the start as "does not exist", or 0 and "does exist" as 1.
Divide this at the median, 0 to .5 is intelligible, .5 to 1 is perceptible. Plato demonstrated how to form binary chains in his dialogs, so that one does not end up with the raunchy string of nonsense that started the post. That process can go one as long as one wants to follow a binary chain to a conclusion.
Predication is existence.
You must be hoping for the NO bell prize for stupid remarks.
The existence of my stupidity is predicated on what exactly if "no one can predicate existence"? I am curious.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:47 am
by popeye1945
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 8:37 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 7:20 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 3:28 am
If reality is purely a subjective biological experience than by default your statement that reality is a subjective biological experience is purely a subjective interpretation on your part by your own standards and as such is not a universal truth.
There is a level of commonality of experiences within biologizes, like species, but organisms have differing apparent realities according to their given biological natures. Biological reality needs the physical world or the energies that alter/change the standing state of our biology. This is how we come to know the world as a biological readout of the changes made to us by the outside world. The meaning we acquire, thus, is the experience of change and the judgment of that change concerning the outside world.
That is your subjective state.
Yes, and yours.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 7:33 am
by Eodnhoj7
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:47 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 8:37 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 7:20 am
There is a level of commonality of experiences within biologizes, like species, but organisms have differing apparent realities according to their given biological natures. Biological reality needs the physical world or the energies that alter/change the standing state of our biology. This is how we come to know the world as a biological readout of the changes made to us by the outside world. The meaning we acquire, thus, is the experience of change and the judgment of that change concerning the outside world.
That is your subjective state.
Yes, and yours.
If everything is subjective, according to you, than you are merely projecting your state onto others as a paradox ensues given you cannot speak of another's subjective state without it being your own in one regard and with it being your own you cannot know other's subjective states or even if they have any.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:43 am
by Fairy
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:37 am
If an absence of an absence is a thing and the absence of a thing is an absence is reality purely absence considering all things are an absence of absence?
Things are absent because things are absent of an imaged presence. Things are thoughts which are present but absent of an image.
Awareness of imaged things is the awareness of the absence of imaged things, as an image is a thought thing, and a thought thing is wholly present, never absent. It’s the paradox of language.
No image is ever seen, images are only known as thoughts are known to be absent of presence.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:52 am
by Fairy
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 7:33 am
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:47 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 8:37 pm
That is your subjective state.
Yes, and yours.
If everything is subjective, according to you, than you are merely projecting your state onto others as a paradox ensues given you cannot speak of another's subjective state without it being your own in one regard and with it being your own you cannot know other's subjective states or even if they have any.
This proves the solipsistic nature of reality.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 7:58 am
by popeye1945
Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:52 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 7:33 am
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:47 am
Yes, and yours.
If everything is subjective, according to you, than you are merely projecting your state onto others as a paradox ensues given you cannot speak of another's subjective state without it being your own in one regard and with it being your own you cannot know other's subjective states or even if they have any.
This proves the solipsistic nature of reality.
Each organism has its own subjective reality, according to its biological nature and the condition/constitution of its biology. This makes each organism the centre of its universe. For biology is the measure and the meaning of all things, reality remains true to the condition of the biology doing the experiencing, alter that biology, and you alter its apparent reality.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:35 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:43 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:37 am
If an absence of an absence is a thing and the absence of a thing is an absence is reality purely absence considering all things are an absence of absence?
Things are absent because things are absent of an imaged presence. Things are thoughts which are present but absent of an image.
Awareness of imaged things is the awareness of the absence of imaged things, as an image is a thought thing, and a thought thing is wholly present, never absent. It’s the paradox of language.
No image is ever seen, images are only known as thoughts are known to be absent of presence.
That statement, a thought, is an image and we perceived relative to and through other images.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:38 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:52 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 7:33 am
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:47 am
Yes, and yours.
If everything is subjective, according to you, than you are merely projecting your state onto others as a paradox ensues given you cannot speak of another's subjective state without it being your own in one regard and with it being your own you cannot know other's subjective states or even if they have any.
This proves the solipsistic nature of reality.
No, because Popeyes claims everything is subjective results in him merely speaking for himself. If all of reality is one's own mind, and they have no control over that mind, then they cannot prove all is there own mind as they do not have their own mind.
Solipsism contradicts itself.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:39 pm
by Eodnhoj7
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 7:58 am
Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:52 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 7:33 am
If everything is subjective, according to you, than you are merely projecting your state onto others as a paradox ensues given you cannot speak of another's subjective state without it being your own in one regard and with it being your own you cannot know other's subjective states or even if they have any.
This proves the solipsistic nature of reality.
Each organism has its own subjective reality, according to its biological nature and the condition/constitution of its biology. This makes each organism the centre of its universe. For biology is the measure and the meaning of all things, reality remains true to the condition of the biology doing the experiencing, alter that biology, and you alter its apparent reality.
You are an organism, hence your claim is strictly your subjective state and as it being your subjective state you cannot speak for anything beyond it.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:07 pm
by popeye1945
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:39 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 7:58 am
Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:52 am
This proves the solipsistic nature of reality.
Each organism has its own subjective reality, according to its biological nature and the condition/constitution of its biology. This makes each organism the centre of its universe. For biology is the measure and the meaning of all things, reality remains true to the condition of the biology doing the experiencing, alter that biology, and you alter its apparent reality.
You are an organism, hence your claim is strictly your subjective state and as it being your subjective state you cannot speak for anything beyond it.
That is true of all life; subjective experience is the measure and the meaning of all things. Life bestows meanings upon a meaningless world as a response/reaction to the world of objects, altering our standing biology, giving us experience/meaning.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:28 pm
by Eodnhoj7
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:07 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:39 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 7:58 am
Each organism has its own subjective reality, according to its biological nature and the condition/constitution of its biology. This makes each organism the centre of its universe. For biology is the measure and the meaning of all things, reality remains true to the condition of the biology doing the experiencing, alter that biology, and you alter its apparent reality.
You are an organism, hence your claim is strictly your subjective state and as it being your subjective state you cannot speak for anything beyond it.
That is true of all life; subjective experience is the measure and the meaning of all things. Life bestows meanings upon a meaningless world as a response/reaction to the world of objects, altering our standing biology, giving us experience/meaning.
I don't think you understanding what I am saying. You claiming experience is purely subjective makes your statement purely subjective meaning you cannot speak for any experience but your own.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:31 pm
by popeye1945
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:28 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:07 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:39 pm
You are an organism, hence your claim is strictly your subjective state and as it being your subjective state you cannot speak for anything beyond it.
That is true of all life; subjective experience is the measure and the meaning of all things. Life bestows meanings upon a meaningless world as a response/reaction to the world of objects, altering our standing biology, giving us experience/meaning.
I don't think you understand what I am saying. Your claiming experience is purely subjective, which means your statement is purely subjective, meaning you cannot speak for any experience but your own.
Your existence is a purely subjective experience. We share as humans a common biology and a very similar experiential life through it. Experience is true to the biology doing the experiencing, but regardless of the same biological constitution, it remains wholly subjective. If you wish to change the experience of your reality, all you need to do is alter your biology, and your experience too will alter. A better life through drugs --lol!! It is all medicine man!! Thanks to the invention of books and other media, today we can gain knowledge of the experiences of other humans, thus expanding our horizons, a secondary source of the meanings common to our species. To the individual, truth is experience; to the collective of individuals it is agreement, meaning a singular subjective experience as opposed to a collective of subjective experiences.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:06 pm
by Belinda
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:31 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:28 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:07 pm
That is true of all life; subjective experience is the measure and the meaning of all things. Life bestows meanings upon a meaningless world as a response/reaction to the world of objects, altering our standing biology, giving us experience/meaning.
I don't think you understand what I am saying. Your claiming experience is purely subjective, which means your statement is purely subjective, meaning you cannot speak for any experience but your own.
Your existence is a purely subjective experience. We share as humans a common biology and a very similar experiential life through it. Experience is true to the biology doing the experiencing, but regardless of the same biological constitution, it remains wholly subjective. If you wish to change the experience of your reality, all you need to do is alter your biology, and your experience too will alter. A better life through drugs --lol!! It is all medicine man!! Thanks to the invention of books and other media, today we can gain knowledge of the experiences of other humans, thus expanding our horizons, a secondary source of the meanings common to our species. To the individual, truth is experience; to the collective of individuals it is agreement, meaning a singular subjective experience as opposed to a collective of subjective experiences.
If you alter your biology too much or if you are too scatterbrained you may loose your life or your friends. Trump seems to get away with it. I suppose Trump's dog will still love Trump forever.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:16 pm
by Eodnhoj7
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:31 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:28 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:07 pm
That is true of all life; subjective experience is the measure and the meaning of all things. Life bestows meanings upon a meaningless world as a response/reaction to the world of objects, altering our standing biology, giving us experience/meaning.
I don't think you understand what I am saying. Your claiming experience is purely subjective, which means your statement is purely subjective, meaning you cannot speak for any experience but your own.
Your existence is a purely subjective experience. We share as humans a common biology and a very similar experiential life through it. Experience is true to the biology doing the experiencing, but regardless of the same biological constitution, it remains wholly subjective. If you wish to change the experience of your reality, all you need to do is alter your biology, and your experience too will alter. A better life through drugs --lol!! It is all medicine man!! Thanks to the invention of books and other media, today we can gain knowledge of the experiences of other humans, thus expanding our horizons, a secondary source of the meanings common to our species. To the individual, truth is experience; to the collective of individuals it is agreement, meaning a singular subjective experience as opposed to a collective of subjective experiences.
That statement is purely your subjective state, you cannot speak for others if everything is subjective by your account. I think you fail to see the paradox in making the statement "everything is subjective".
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:08 am
by popeye1945
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:16 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:31 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:28 pm
I don't think you understand what I am saying. Your claiming experience is purely subjective, which means your statement is purely subjective, meaning you cannot speak for any experience but your own.
Your existence is a purely subjective experience. We share as humans a common biology and a very similar experiential life through it. Experience is true to the biology doing the experiencing, but regardless of the same biological constitution, it remains wholly subjective. If you wish to change the experience of your reality, all you need to do is alter your biology, and your experience too will alter. A better life through drugs --lol!! It is all medicine man!! Thanks to the invention of books and other media, today we can gain knowledge of the experiences of other humans, thus expanding our horizons, a secondary source of the meanings common to our species. To the individual, truth is experience; to the collective of individuals it is agreement, meaning a singular subjective experience as opposed to a collective of subjective experiences.
That statement is purely your subjective state, you cannot speak for others if everything is subjective by your account. I think you fail to see the paradox in making the statement "everything is subjective".
No, not really. To me, you are an object in my world, as is my own body. We assume our commonality of biology and common experience, but we cannot prove it. The world is different to each of us through the differing constitutions of our bodies. If you wish to experience reality differently, simply alter the state of your present biology. Truth to the individual is experience, and to an individual group, it is agreement, as we feel our way through this projected world of biological readout, a reality relative to biology.