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I doubt it would include fat ugly men that actually think they are women.mickthinks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:27 am If the games were being held in, say, Qatar, Islam might be featured.
Yes it never ceases to amaze me that those demanding tolerance (*trans are < 0.5% of the population) are continually poking their stick at others in an attempt to what? See what we will tolerare?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:01 am But why would the organizers of an event meant to unify open the ceremonies with whatever that was. The negative results are so utterly predicatable that it would seem reasonable to think they are intended. The postive ones also, sure. But they couldn't manage to be creative without adding to the splits already out there?
I've looked a bit to see what the officials have said in face of the reactions. Some say it was not intended as a retake on the Last Supper. Some say it was. I've seen images that put the Davinci's last supper over it and it sure looks intentional. It's also not the trans per se, but the range of images: a headless bloody figure, nude figures, the mixing of paganism into Christianity. I mean, I'm not a Christian, more of a pagan. I think any religion is up for pardoy, mockery, reinterpretation. It just seems way out of place here and seems intended to cause the reactions it is creating, given that it would be easy to make some other gesture at inclusion that did not specifically go after one religion. Heck, there is even a feminist critique of drag queens. But that doesn't seem to make it into the discussions because, at least it seems, the point is to make everything a battleground for right vs. left without nuance or complexity.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:13 amYes it never ceases to amaze me that those demanding tolerance (*trans are < 0.5% of the population) are continually poking their stick at others in an attempt to what? See what we will tolerare?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:01 am But why would the organizers of an event meant to unify open the ceremonies with whatever that was. The negative results are so utterly predicatable that it would seem reasonable to think they are intended. The postive ones also, sure. But they couldn't manage to be creative without adding to the splits already out there?
There are very few. No ROC. None in gymnastics.LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:20 amThe Russian athletes are there, the Russian flag is absent. It's still the Olympics. Sort of like the ATP and the WTA, if you will.accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:08 am It's not an olympics without Russia anyway. The hypocrisy is off the charts. Was the US ever banned for invading Iraq and most of the ME? Was GB banned for joining them? So much for 'inclusivity'
'Interesting' that the video has been taken off the internet. Clearly France is ashamed of its opening ceremony.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:23 amI've looked a bit to see what the officials have said in face of the reactions. Some say it was not intended as a retake on the Last Supper. Some say it was. I've seen images that put the Davinci's last supper over it and it sure looks intentional. It's also not the trans per se, but the range of images: a headless bloody figure, nude figures, the mixing of paganism into Christianity. I mean, I'm not a Christian, more of a pagan. I think any religion is up for pardoy, mockery, reinterpretation. It just seems way out of place here and seems intended to cause the reactions it is creating, given that it would be easy to make some other gesture at inclusion that did not specifically go after one religion. Heck, there is even a feminist critique of drag queens. But that doesn't seem to make it into the discussions because, at least it seems, the point is to make everything a battleground for right vs. left without nuance or complexity.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:13 amYes it never ceases to amaze me that those demanding tolerance (*trans are < 0.5% of the population) are continually poking their stick at others in an attempt to what? See what we will tolerare?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:01 am But why would the organizers of an event meant to unify open the ceremonies with whatever that was. The negative results are so utterly predicatable that it would seem reasonable to think they are intended. The postive ones also, sure. But they couldn't manage to be creative without adding to the splits already out there?
Ah, probably because I did a search on utube yesterday for the entire ceremony - watched it right through - about 25mins and didn't see one tranny, so maybe they cut it out.accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:39 am'Interesting' that the video has been taken off the internet. Clearly France is ashamed of its opening ceremony.
Have you ever seen a sitcom on TV where a family eats dinner? The side of the table towards the camera is always empty, not becasue they are stealing from Da Vinci, but because they are dealing with the same problem he had of having a portion of the scene presented obscured by the back of somebody's head.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:23 am the mixing of paganism into Christianity. I mean, I'm not a Christian, more of a pagan. I think any religion is up for pardoy, mockery, reinterpretation. It just seems way out of place here and seems intended to cause the reactions it is creating, given that it would be easy to make some other gesture at inclusion that did not specifically go after one religion. Heck, there is even a feminist critique of drag queens. But that doesn't seem to make it into the discussions because, at least it seems, the point is to make everything a battleground for right vs. left without nuance or complexity.
Yeah, like those freaks weren't sniggering at the ways in which their digusting exhibition may be perceived.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:22 am This is just a case of Christians making everything about themselves, as they invariably do, and only knowing about one painting.
The part where accelefine isn't even an American...LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:18 amWhat part about Americans viewing everything through an America First lens suprises you?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:05 pm Why do people think this has to do with American woke shit? Men have been dressing up as women in France for a long long long long time. America isn't the center of everything.
FFS. The whole ceremony was garbage. And since when were drag queens a 'sexuality'? Men in womanface are now a 'marginalised minority group'? Why not circus clowns? How about 'including' them as a 'vulnerable, oppressed group'? If drag queens feel so 'marginalised' and 'vulnerable' then take off the fucking wigs, bad makeup and dresses. Sorted! Great thunking misogynistic men are 'vulnerable'? Yeah right. Women are vulnerable. Children are vulnerable. Great thunking testoserone-fueled men are NOT VULNERABLEFlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:22 amHave you ever seen a sitcom on TV where a family eats dinner? The side of the table towards the camera is always empty, not becasue they are stealing from Da Vinci, but because they are dealing with the same problem he had of having a portion of the scene presented obscured by the back of somebody's head.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:23 am the mixing of paganism into Christianity. I mean, I'm not a Christian, more of a pagan. I think any religion is up for pardoy, mockery, reinterpretation. It just seems way out of place here and seems intended to cause the reactions it is creating, given that it would be easy to make some other gesture at inclusion that did not specifically go after one religion. Heck, there is even a feminist critique of drag queens. But that doesn't seem to make it into the discussions because, at least it seems, the point is to make everything a battleground for right vs. left without nuance or complexity.
This is not a ripoff of the Last Supper it is just the basic science of framing an image for presentation
This (German) Bacchus and Ariadne might be... but it is good for this demo because it shows the problem of the person with their ass to camera...
The Olympics is a pagan festival, clebrating religious rites in the pre-Christian world. Why would a French team not design their celebration of that with a bunch of stuff about Greek Gods - there's a lot of genuine French art about that subject, and I don't know if you've ever met any Frenchmen, but what I find much less likely is that they would make their opening ceremony about an Italian painting, by an Italian artist, that's in Italy when all the art about Dionysian Bacchanals, some of which is French either by origin or resides in French galleries, is the relevant body of work.
This is just a case of Christians making everything about themselves, as they invariably do, and only knowing about one painting.
