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Re: work and play?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:53 pm
by Peter Kropotkin
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:38 pm
Walker wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:34 am
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:52 pm
Well, I don't know why Iran should be wanting to just be threatening. What's the point in that?
Your ignorance of reality is not my concern, Gary. I have no need to step into your wonderland.
I'm not concerned with "reality" as much as I am with morality.
K: and I to believe in morality more than reality...so, keep on
exploring Morality... what does it mean to be a moral person?

Kropotkin

Re: work and play?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:09 pm
by Walker
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:53 pm K: and I to believe in morality more than reality...so, keep on
exploring Morality... what does it mean to be a moral person?

Kropotkin
Riddle me this …

What kind of morality moralizes about the actions of others?

Re: work and play?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:13 pm
by Walker
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:51 pm K: I don't go onto youtube.....
I leave that facility of untruth to others..

Kropotkin
Actually, the clip illustrates a common delusion that applies to the comment you made about being a creator. If you like, then out of kindness and the generosity of PLAY I could summon time and energy to transcribe the dialogue of the scene, and describe the action, for you to understand. Of course, you realize it would be low on the priority of my pressing obligations, so do be patient, Kropotkin.

But only at your sincere request, and of your sincerity I alone shall be the judge.

Re: work and play?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:07 pm
by Peter Kropotkin
Walker wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:13 pm
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:51 pm K: I don't go onto youtube.....
I leave that facility of untruth to others..

Kropotkin
Actually, the clip illustrates a common delusion that applies to the comment you made about being a creator. If you like, then out of kindness and the generosity of PLAY I could summon time and energy to transcribe the dialogue of the scene, and describe the action, for you to understand. Of course, you realize it would be low on the priority of my pressing obligations, so do be patient, Kropotkin.

But only at your sincere request, and of your sincerity I alone shall be the judge.
K: no thanks...

Kropotkin

Re: work and play?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:36 pm
by Walker
Oh, Peter Kropotkin. Tsk tsk. You seem ignorant of the Philosophy of Play. No, to be generous, it has not awakened in you yet within the context of philosophy. It is a primary part of human nature, inherent if you will, but it needs secondary conditions to awaken from the emptiness of infinite potentiality, and blossom into manifestation as objective duality. I can relate to your grimness. Grinding it out, day by day, pulling the harness. It builds character, keeping heart and home together via the treadmill, so take comfort.


Playfully speaking ...

- There's two kinds of folks. Those who just gotta hear, and those who just gotta say. I think we have sufficient evidence to properly classify Kropotkin based on this taxonomy.

- This gives rise to a critical Philosophical Question. A question borne of play ...

- What do you get with a roomful of teachers, but no students?

Re: work and play?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:56 pm
by commonsense
Walker wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:36 pm - What do you get with a roomful of teachers, but no students?
A teachers’ lounge.

Re: work and play?

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:56 am
by Walker
Behind the scenes, in the teacher’s lounge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Y7jHHUmvE

Re: work and play?

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 5:23 am
by Walker
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:26 pm I actually create philosophical content..
and you just reply to this content... I create, you reply....
that is all you do, reply to other's content... nothing more...

Kropotkin
I shall abide by the imposed limitation created by your FSK, however, a suggestion to consider. I'll grok more if you write less. Tighten it up. We've been over this before. I thought we were together on this. :P

Re: work and play?

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:27 pm
by Walker
San Francisco 49ers … Superbowl

- Kropotkin is a 49er’s fan.
- Christian McCaffrey is Superman.
- He accounts for more than half the offensive yardage.

- Can Superman be stopped?
- All the 49er’s eggs in one basket?

- Does rooting for a Christian cause a conflict for San Fran atheists?

:D

Re: work and play?

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:51 am
by Walker
(continued)

- I gave Christian ten offensive points for team spirit. The team spirit in football is his will and dedication to winning one step at a time. He simply will not stop until he is stopped. I saw him run for about thirty feet with four strong athletes who have trained since the pee wee days to tackle, hanging off him, and he was dragging one of them like a rag doll.

- However, those Chiefs.
- I've only watched the playoffs this year, and those Chiefs are impressive.

- They say big games are won by the defense because both top teams can move the ball on offense.
- The question is, can one of them be stopped from moving the ball.

- They're supposedly evenly matched.

- Only action, action and not analysis will determine The Truth.
- That's the philosophy of Sports ... which is a paradox seeing as how philosophy itself is analysis ... isn't it?

- Will the San Fran atheists be praying to win, in sincerity or mockery?
- Or, will they be analyzing spreadsheets and betting for thrills and profit?

Re: work and play?

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:16 pm
by Alexiev
Speaking of football (as Super Bowl Sunday, the third biggest holiday in America, approaches), I find it interesting that the two most popular spectator sports (football and basketball) in the U.S.favor giants. We love Paul Bunyan stories. Sports commentators yammer on about how NBA players are great athletes. True -- if being seven feet tall constitutes athletic ability.

My theory is that American egalitarianism likes excuses. I've run into many pick-up basketball players who think (incorrectly) they could be stars if only they were 6'10", instead of 5'10". Golfers are even worse, thinking that if they only practiced like pros they could be scratch golfers. This from people who can't break 90, or drive the ball 230 yards.

One more thing: anyone who thinks Canadians are "nice" has never played hockey. In my hockey days (some decades ago) Canadians loved Don Cherry and were the meanest, most egregiously violent hockey players in the world. Fortunately, fighting has been eliminated (pretty much) in amateur hockey because everyone now wears lacrosse-style face masks.

Re: work and play?

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:52 pm
by Walker
There's certainly truth in that. However, size is relative and when they're all giants, the athletic giants have an edge.

Superman who plays for San Franscisco 49ers isn't a giant. In fact, he's my size, height and weight, although it certainly takes more than the same size to be like Superman.

Re: work and play?

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:11 pm
by LuckyR
Alexiev wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:16 pm Speaking of football (as Super Bowl Sunday, the third biggest holiday in America, approaches), I find it interesting that the two most popular spectator sports (football and basketball) in the U.S.favor giants. We love Paul Bunyan stories. Sports commentators yammer on about how NBA players are great athletes. True -- if being seven feet tall constitutes athletic ability.

My theory is that American egalitarianism likes excuses. I've run into many pick-up basketball players who think (incorrectly) they could be stars if only they were 6'10", instead of 5'10". Golfers are even worse, thinking that if they only practiced like pros they could be scratch golfers. This from people who can't break 90, or drive the ball 230 yards.

One more thing: anyone who thinks Canadians are "nice" has never played hockey. In my hockey days (some decades ago) Canadians loved Don Cherry and were the meanest, most egregiously violent hockey players in the world. Fortunately, fighting has been eliminated (pretty much) in amateur hockey because everyone now wears lacrosse-style face masks.
Hhmmm... in your first paragraph you imply that NBA stars aren't great athletes but merely tall yet in your second you state that merely being tall won't be enough to be in the NBA (correctly).

In my experience the (ego salvaging) "excuses" you reference are not limited to particular countries or cultures, that is they seem universal in humans.

Re: work and play?

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:37 pm
by Alexiev
LuckyR wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:11 pm

Hhmmm... in your first paragraph you imply that NBA stars aren't great athletes but merely tall yet in your second you state that merely being tall won't be enough to be in the NBA (correctly).

In my experience the (ego salvaging) "excuses" you reference are not limited to particular countries or cultures, that is they seem universal in humans.
Obviously, NBA players are good athletes, although one probably need be only in the top 10% of athletic ability to have a chance at the NBA if one is 7 feet tall (as opposed to the top .001% if one is 6 feet tall). I'm just guessing about the excuses, but there must be some reason we admire sports in which gigantic size is a huge advantage. I suppose the Japanese like Sumo wrestling -- but soccer, the most popular sport in the world, is played by normal sized people. Why do you think the two most popular U.S. sports are played mostly by huge people?

Re: work and play?

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:27 pm
by Walker
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