The Serpent gave us vice and virtue

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Re: The Serpent gave us vice and virtue

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Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:18 am
Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:17 am
Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:15 am You seem to think this is my website. Or perhaps you've made an even less coherent assumption.

I'm glad you sight it with your eyes, though it can be cool to have synaesthetic experiences.

It's too bad you seem to have no memory of where you sighted it. You do realize that even if you don't take screenshots of things, there are ways to sight them again?
My eyes are peeled.
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Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:18 am
Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:18 am
Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:17 am

My eyes are peeled.
youre not an asshole, youre an aereola
not even a tit, a wanna-be tit. so wanting to be sucked. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: SUCKER
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Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:17 am My eyes are peeled. Why are you an asshole?
Now? I like to hold up a mirror.
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Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:19 am
Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:18 am
Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:18 am
youre not an asshole, youre an aereola
not even a tit, a wanna-be tit. so wanting to be sucked. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: SUCKER
You seem to be harsh on yourself here. Do you need some help with the quote function also, or did you really mean to shit on yourself?
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Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:53 am And Jordan Peterson is his emissary. Why is the world so enamoured and mesmerised by this dispenser of good and evil?
Good and evil are fundamental aspects of reality.
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Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:03 am Correct but only because we are fallen. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is an evil tree. We have spent 6000 years being evil when God would have preferred we spent the first six thousand years having NO KNOWLEDGE OF EVIL
If God is good then how could He create an evil thing, the tree?
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bahman wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:51 pm
Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:03 am Correct but only because we are fallen. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is an evil tree. We have spent 6000 years being evil when God would have preferred we spent the first six thousand years having NO KNOWLEDGE OF EVIL
If God is good then how could He create an evil thing, the tree?
He just said, "let there be a tree", and there was a tree. Normally, at this point, God looks at what he just created, and sees that it is good, so I can only assume something went wrong on this occasion.
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Harbal wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:58 pm
bahman wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:51 pm
Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:03 am Correct but only because we are fallen. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is an evil tree. We have spent 6000 years being evil when God would have preferred we spent the first six thousand years having NO KNOWLEDGE OF EVIL
If God is good then how could He create an evil thing, the tree?
He just said, "let there be a tree", and there was a tree. Normally, at this point, God looks at what he just created, and sees that it is good, so I can only assume something went wrong on this occasion.
Good point.
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Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:03 am The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is an evil tree. We have spent 6000 years being evil when God would have preferred we spent the first six thousand years having NO KNOWLEDGE OF EVIL
Not sure if that is correct.

I think knowledge of G&E are helpful as a kind of gauging and making maps re that.

I also think that any god-mind would know/realize the truth in that and insert a toleration algorithm into the mix.

Old Soul: Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all.

Me: True that.

Old Soul: EZPZ. Tickling The Dragon's Tail -Adds Up To
"Creativity"
Insert a toleration algorithm into the mix.
"MERKABAH"
(Noticeable within The Realms of Democracy
The Mark of The Beast)

Me: True that.

Old Soul: Truthful Insight. Create that path and engineer a metamorphosis.
(Conducive to wellbeing
Those things developed way further into the future of that beginning time.
"The Wayward Stick")
"Insert a toleration algorithm into the mix."
YHWH
Harmony
Time for Soul to Drive
It is all making sense


Me: Truthful Insight, that.

Old Soul:Image

Me: Image

Old Soul:The Trinity of Love are three things operating as One Thing
The Shadow
"The Devil" You Say
"You're in the way!"
Truthful Insight, that.
Cheers!


Me: I will ponder on that for a bit.
Kiaora.

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I am open to being corrected)




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Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:53 am And Jordan Peterson is his emissary. Why is the world so enamoured and mesmerised by this dispenser of good and evil?
The serpent is a symbol of distinction for the serpent is merely a line with curves or a circle (the Orobos), all distinctions are grounded in linearism (progression or regression) and circularity (self-referencing).

The nature of distinction simultaneously connects (good) and seperates (evil) and as such is the grounding of knowledge.

The groundings of knowledge and wisdom is distinction and the serpent is a fitting animal for the above reasons. Bit there are further meanings that can be attributed to it:

1. The shedding of skin represents that with a growth in knowledge comes a loss of the old appearances of it and yet regardless it's skins enamors people, similar to grandiose verbage enamors people.

2. The two poisonous fangs represent dualism poisoning us with internal and external conflict by filling us with contradiction.

3. The tight grip it has around its prey represents the tight grip that the relativity of things has upon us, it strangles the psyche.
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Philosphicalous wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:03 am Correct but only because we are fallen. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is an evil tree. We have spent 6000 years being evil when God would have preferred we spent the first six thousand years having NO KNOWLEDGE OF EVIL
To be sure, the Christian interpretation of the myth.

Gen 2:17 is ADVISORY, warning of consequences (Sometimes God commands do/do not do. Sometimes God says do/do not do because of consequences)

From the Jewish perspective can't be about the origin of sin because before the fruit is eaten, innocent, just one of the animals. I guess could try Eve coaxing Adam to eat as sin (she has eaten, has the knowledge) but in her defense. the Bible is going to forbid female bestiality in Lev 18 so she can't continue to lie down with him if he remains an animal. The knowledge itself makes it impossible for humans to be in Gan Eden, more state of being than physical place.

BTW -- If you look at other Middle Eastern mytic material you will meet the serpent as the wise counsellor of Innana
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