Moral Compass

[Janoah]

Adultery is a social vice

Yes, that's why it's antimoral.


***We have to define 'what is evil' and provide an exhaustive list on what is covered within 'evil'.***

About good and evil.
In my personal opinion, a moral compass is following one's conscience, in biblical terms, the upright in heart.
"and gladness for the upright in heart" (Psalm 97)

Good is following the conscience, and evil, on the contrary, is going against the conscience.
"Crooked-hearted people never recognize anything good,
and those who distort the truth court disaster."
(Proverbs 17, 20)

Moral rules are a consequence of following conscience.
There may be countless moral rules, but they have one root - following conscience.
The same thing applies to evil, there may be different manifestations of evil, but their root is the same, crooked-hearted, self-deception.
A formally executed moral rule may turn out to be immoral when carried out contrary to conscience.

[Gary Childress]

Adultery is a social vice

Yes, that's why it's antimoral.


***We have to define 'what is evil' and provide an exhaustive list on what is covered within 'evil'.***

About good and evil.
In my personal opinion, a moral compass is following one's conscience, in biblical terms, the upright in heart.
"and gladness for the upright in heart" (Psalm 97)

Good is following the conscience, and evil, on the contrary, is going against the conscience.
"Crooked-hearted people never recognize anything good,
and those who distort the truth court disaster."
(Proverbs 17, 20)

Moral rules are a consequence of following conscience.
There may be countless moral rules, but they have one root - following conscience.
The same thing applies to evil, there may be different manifestations of evil, but their root is the same, crooked-hearted, self-deception.
A formally executed moral rule may turn out to be immoral when carried out contrary to conscience.

My conscience tells me not to get too upset at other living beings. If there's a God then we're the ones trying to deal with the mess God created. So I apologize for being abrasive, however, I'll probably continue to be abrasive toward those who hold the creator of this mess in high esteem. Just know that's the only thing that is upsetting me. Other than that, you're fine.

¯\_(*_*)_/¯

[Janoah]

, since there are Atheists present,

I am not operating here with an unproven belief, but what is proven, is obvious.

...everything in the world happens regularly, the observed regularities are interconnected in One regularity.

I don't think this is obvious to anybody. Maybe you can explain it better.

Let's just say that for those who do not agree that everything in the world happens regularly, nothing can be proven, because what science does is discover and explore the laws of nature.

[Janoah]

My conscience tells me not to get too upset at other living beings. If there's a God then we're the ones trying to deal with the mess God created. So I apologize for being abrasive, however, I'll probably continue to be abrasive toward those who hold the creator of this mess in high esteem. Just know that's the only thing that is upsetting me. Other than that, you're fine.

¯\_(*_*)_/¯

And that’s right, the main thing is health, don’t be upset!

[Gary Childress]

My conscience tells me not to get too upset at other living beings. If there's a God then we're the ones trying to deal with the mess God created. So I apologize for being abrasive, however, I'll probably continue to be abrasive toward those who hold the creator of this mess in high esteem. Just know that's the only thing that is upsetting me. Other than that, you're fine.

¯\_(*_*)_/¯

And that’s right, the main thing is health, don’t be upset!

I can't help it. I don't think responding to terrorism with terrorism is the right way to respond. We the living should be compassionate toward each other and think of each other as fellow casualties of God's "creation" (if it is the case that this world was created by a "God"). Hamas is mostly a rabble of overgrown delinquents upset over their lot in life (possibly for understandable reasons). If we were in their shoes, we might be upset too. Granted the rockets were the result of some extremely depraved human thinking but killing civilians who didn't do any harm to Israel in return is just a non-starter.

If I lived in Gaza, I can assure you I wouldn't condone anyone launching rockets from my land into someone else's. However, if one of Israel's retaliatory strikes against those who did, killed a loved one of mine, I'd probably be pissed about it. I wouldn't attack anyone but I'd probably be balling them out if I had access to them via the Internet.

[Janoah]

I don't think responding to terrorism with terrorism

Come on, Gary, let’s not engage in demagoguery in this topic, it is extremely harmful to Your health. All.

[attofishpi]

If there's a God then we're the ones trying to deal with the mess God created.

What 'mess' did God create?

[Dontaskme]

If there's a God then we're the ones trying to deal with the mess God created.

What 'mess' did God create?

SHIT

That brown sticky stuff you have to clean up around your A hole every single day for the rest of your life. God made the mess, and left you to clean it up.

[Veritas Aequitas]

Adultery is a social vice

Yes, that's why it's antimoral.

As I had stated virtue and vice [whilst related] are distinct topic from Morality and Ethics.
Adultery as a social vice is not specifically a moral issue.

Here is a list [sample] of virtues;

• Acceptance Assertiveness Authenticity Beauty Caring Cleanliness Commitment Compassion Confidence Consideration Contentment Cooperation Courage Creativity Detachment Determination Dignity Encouragement Enthusiasm Ethical Excellence Fairness Faith Flexibility Forgiveness Friendliness Generosity Gentleness Graciousness Gratitude Harmonious Helpfulness Honesty Honor Hope Humility Idealism Integrity Imaginative Joyfulness Justice Kindness Love Loyalty Moderation Modesty Optimistic Orderliness Passionate Patience Peace Perseverance Preparedness Purposefulness Reliability Respect Responsibility Reverence Self-discipline Service Sincerity Tact Temperate Tenacious Thankfulness Tolerance Trust Truthfulness Understanding Unity Visionary Wisdom Wonder

How can we assert virtues [a sample as listed above] & its opposite vices be classified as moral elements, e.g. killing of humans, slavery, rape, mass murders, and the likes.

***We have to define 'what is evil' and provide an exhaustive list on what is covered within 'evil'.***

About good and evil.
In my personal opinion, a moral compass is following one's conscience, in biblical terms, the upright in heart.
"and gladness for the upright in heart" (Psalm 97)

Good is following the conscience, and evil, on the contrary, is going against the conscience.
"Crooked-hearted people never recognize anything good,
and those who distort the truth court disaster."
(Proverbs 17, 20)

Moral rules are a consequence of following conscience.
There may be countless moral rules, but they have one root - following conscience.
The same thing applies to evil, there may be different manifestations of evil, but their root is the same, crooked-hearted, self-deception.
A formally executed moral rule may turn out to be immoral when carried out contrary to conscience.

Conscience is merely a part of Morality and Ethics proper.
Conscience is triggered only when there is some sort of deviation from what is supposedly moral.
When one's conscience is triggered, then one will need to align one's action [act or do not act] with one's conscience.

If one is highly moral or ethical, one will be spontaneously moral in one's actions without the involvement of conscience.

[attofishpi]

Adultery as a social vice is not specifically a moral issue.

Adultery is very much a moral issue. Breaking the heart of someone that loves you is morally wrong.

[Veritas Aequitas]

Adultery as a social vice is not specifically a moral issue.

Adultery is very much a moral issue. Breaking the heart of someone that loves you is morally wrong.

One can define a term as whatever one like and with popular consensus its meaning will be accepted into a dictionary, note the term original meaning of 'gay' as joy, happy compared to its popular meaning currently.

One of the most critical basic of Philosophy is Coherentism.

• Coherentism is a theory of epistemic justification. It implies that for a belief to be justified it must belong to a coherent system of beliefs. For a system of beliefs to be coherent, the beliefs that make up that system must “cohere” with one another. WIKI

On a more refined level of Philosophy, adultery is a social vice and to classify it as a moral element would not be coherent within Morality & Ethics [as defined].

As such, to be more rigorous in dealing with complex moral issues, it would be more efficient not to accept 'adultery' [which is more of a virtue element] as a moral element.

[Immanuel Can]

, since there are Atheists present,

I am not operating here with an unproven belief, but what is proven, is obvious.

What would that be?

...everything in the world happens regularly, the observed regularities are interconnected in One regularity.

I don't think this is obvious to anybody. Maybe you can explain it better.

Let's just say that for those who do not agree that everything in the world happens regularly, nothing can be proven, because what science does is discover and explore the laws of nature.

"Regularly"? Oh. Do you mean you're a Uniformitarian? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformitarianism)

I'm having difficulty understanding what you're trying to argue for or against. I can't see that even Uninformitarianism leads one to any conclusion that everything is "interconnected in One regularity."

But maybe you'll make that clear.

[attofishpi]

Adultery as a social vice is not specifically a moral issue.

Adultery is very much a moral issue. Breaking the heart of someone that loves you is morally wrong.

One can define a term as whatever one like and with popular consensus its meaning will be accepted into a dictionary, note the term original meaning of 'gay' as joy, happy compared to its popular meaning currently.

One of the most critical basic of Philosophy is Coherentism.

• Coherentism is a theory of epistemic justification. It implies that for a belief to be justified it must belong to a coherent system of beliefs. For a system of beliefs to be coherent, the beliefs that make up that system must “cohere” with one another. WIKI

All the above is irrelevant.

On a more refined level of Philosophy, adultery is a social vice and to classify it as a moral element would not be coherent within Morality & Ethics [as defined].

I'm not sure what dictionary you are using if you think adultery is not immoral.

[Age]

Yes, IC, I knew that you would totally avoid the topic, and for good reason.

Yes: because you're being boring, and not offering any intellectual challenge. You should quit that...you're probably capable of better.

'you' CLAIM that God is a male gendered, "immanuel can".

I have CHALLENGED 'you' ON 'this CLAIM'. 'you' have IGNORED, REFUSED, and/or AVOIDED 'this CHALLENGE'. Are 'you' suggesting that I am NOT offering ANY 'intellectual challenge' here ALSO?

[LuckyR]

Gary Childress suggested common sense as a moral compass.

Are the Ten Commandments common sense?

Well whether they are or aren't, common sense is itself uncommon. That is, to most common sense is a complimentary term to describe promotion of simple truths of high practical value over complicated rules of little practical value. In my experience the devil is indeed in the details, thus intricate guidelines that cover common (and many uncommon) alternate scenarios I find to be of greater value than homespun homilies.