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Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:17 pm I'll follow advice and stop replying to Age's posts. Unfortunately, the ignore button doesn't work with direct responses to my posts.

Yeah I had Age on ignore for years too. After a few days she usually stops replying to my comments when she doesn't get any response.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:18 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:16 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:50 pm

For a while I felt like I belonged in the world. That helped a lot. But it seems to be a futile belief. Age started to get to me with his weird posts and I began to get prophetic delusions of impending doom based on his "back in the days when this was written" trope. I ended up in the mental ward a few weeks back. I mean, it's OK. Not his problem. We can't help but say and do what we think we ought to say and do. Life is what it is.

Holy Moley. I missed this until now. I hereby withdraw all forum interaction with Gary, seeing as how external words can trigger such a response in him, and if me exercising my human, God-given right of free speech to say just the way things are has that effect upon one so mentally vulnerable, the cost of a word-relationship with Gary outweighs the benefit, which let's face it, is miniscule in the face of ... Huh?

Sounds like a good idea for you, starting now.

It starts when I say so, and I can end it anytime.

I do for you, not for me. It's a good idea for you, Gary.

Good grief.

"Well, I spent the first week of this October involuntarily detained in a local mental ward."

Holy crap. Who put u in there (if i may ask)?

Don't feel left out G cuz the same thing happened to me when i was 12. And that 'evaluation' ended up being a two year period of involuntary incarceration.

Now you're like gah wtf did u do?! nuthin, gary. Nuthin that would warrant putting a kid into a state mental institution. Skippin school and carrying a little pocket knife to defend myself from the reprobates at the redirectional school I was forced to go to, was the worst thing I did. No, this was sumthin my old man and the shrinks conspired to do together.

Two years later I'm in the hospital court for review and when the judge looks at my case, he's aghast that I'm even in the place, and let's me out against the wishes of everyone. That's the only judge I've ever been in front of that I'd not want to murder.

Two fuckin years, gary. Boy i could tell u some stories.

Oh i also tried to escape. Climbed up into the ceiling like dude in the breakfast club and fell right through that bitch. I was gonna kick the louver vent out and jump into a tree and climb down. So much for that idea. They put me on level 2 and locked me in the crazy room for a few months. Lol i drew shit all over the walls with the pencils they gave me. Wash it off bitches.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:30 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:18 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:16 pm
Holy Moley. I missed this until now. I hereby withdraw all forum interaction with Gary, seeing as how external words can trigger such a response in him, and if me exercising my human, God-given right of free speech to say just the way things are has that effect upon one so mentally vulnerable, the cost of a word-relationship with Gary outweighs the benefit, which let's face it, is miniscule in the face of ... Huh?

Sounds like a good idea for you, starting now.

It starts when I say so, and I can end it anytime.

I do for you, not for me. It's a good idea for you, Gary.

Good grief.

You know best.

My dear Gary,

I have noticed that a majority of your posts relate to your mental condition rather than to philosophical enquiries. Although a number of forum members have responded to your posts with their advice, I believe you would experience greater benefit from a mental health forum, where individuals whose lives are more akin to yours can sympathize more directly with you.

Give it a try. We’ll all be here if you find that you need to return for philosophic discussions.

"I believe you would experience greater benefit from a mental health forum"

Nah he's good. And that's the last place u wanna put someone u think is mentally ill; with other mentally ill people. I'm reminded of a joke i heard a comedian say once... something like 'narcotics anonymous? oh that's a splendid idea; put a bunch of coke heads together in a room and the only thing they'll do is meet up later, put their money together, and get a better deal.'

Psychotherapy too is next to useless becuz the cause of most people's problems can't be treated simply by a few pointers from a shrink. Ever heard a shrink tell u something u didn't already know? Right.

What gary needs is fresh air. He's stuck in a house caring for an elderly mother, has no social life, and is here all day being brainwashed by philosophers and theologists while israel and hamas are slaughtering each other. No wonder he's flippin out.

Gary's dissonance is a sign of intelligence. It's his sensitivity, his x-ray vision. He sees and feels shit others don't see and feel. I'd even argue he's the normal one here while the rest of us are the nutts. How can someone possibly look at another person today and say with that shallow cordiality the rest of us find so easy to fake: have a good day!

Atla wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:26 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:17 pm I'll follow advice and stop replying to Age's posts. Unfortunately, the ignore button doesn't work with direct responses to my posts.

Yeah I had Age on ignore for years too. After a few days she usually stops replying to my comments when she doesn't get any response.

Just stop responding to Age and his direct responses to you will eventually cease to trap you in his web.

BTW, my own epitaph need only say: “Though he lived in New York he never became one of them.”

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:14 pm Just a modest request of others here on Earth. If you come across my dead body lying in the dirt, please throw it in a landfill and, if it's not too much trouble) recite the following epitaph in remembrance:

Gary Childress was doing reasonably well in his mental health recovery until a forum member named, Age, came to PN. [I'm sure future generations will be able to decipher what "PN" refers to, so no need to spell it out.] Age began harassing him with unreasonable, disingenuous questions and refused to be open in discussion with Gary.

Name just one of the times where I have, SUPPOSEDLY, 'been harassing you with unreasonable, disingenuous questions and/or refused to be open in discussion with 'you', "gary childress".

'your' REFUSAL to ANSWER QUESTIONS ASKED OPENLY, for CLARITY, SHOWS and PROVES who has NOT been OPEN here. And, the reason 'you' have given here for 'your' REFUSAL to CLARIFY, SHOWS and PROVES just how narrowed thinking or CLOSED 'you' REALLY ARE here.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:14 pm So Gary became frustrated and with no reasonable outlet to direct his frustration, his mental health declined.

If 'you' can NOT find "ANOTHER human beings" NOR 'facility' as a 'reasonable outlet to direct 'your' OWN frustration TO', then I would BLAME 'that adult human being created society' in which 'you' lived in, in 'those days'.

Also, WHY can 'you' 'now' NOT just go to 'a place' and just get MORE 'paid for' DRUGS? After all 'you' SAID that 'they' WORKED BEFORE, right?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:14 pm Poor Gary was diagnosed with Schizophrenia in 1991 at the age of 25.

Just out of CURIOSITY 'when was this' in relation to 'when you were so-called 'studying' philosophy'? Before, during, or after, and if it was after, then how long after?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:14 pm For a brief time in his life, until he was diagnosed, he got to experience life as a sane person until Age messed with his mind and sent him into remission.

ONCE AGAIN, there is NO such 'thing' as 'your mind', "gary childress" OR ANY one "else".

Thinking that there is one is just DUE to being brought up being INDOCTRINATED INTO and WITH False knowledge.

BELIEVING there is one is just ANOTHER Truly INSANE BELIEF, which when SHARED as though true is just INDOCTRINATING "others" WITH and IN TO the SAME False knowledge.

By the way, "gary childress", 'your' sentence here is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY ILLOGICAL, OBVIOUSLY.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:14 pm Gary's last words, however, were:

"Dear God, Age knows not what he does, forgive him and go fuck yourself for creating this fucked up world".

Please "gary childress" what do the words 'the world' even ACTUALLY MEAN, or, what are those words REFERRING TO, to 'you', EXACTLY?

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:18 pm I want my bloated naked corpse loaded into a trebuchet at Dover and fired across the channel at the French please. My epitaph can be scrawled across my distended parts in lipstick and should contain the cryptic message "here comes my bum".

Age is already on almost every ignore list known to man. Just put him on yours and live a good long life.

Good suggestion, the CLAIM though IS OBVIOUSLY COMPLETELY False, Wrong, AND Incorrect.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:56 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:18 pm I want my bloated naked corpse loaded into a trebuchet at Dover and fired across the channel at the French please. My epitaph can be scrawled across my distended parts in lipstick and should contain the cryptic message "here comes my bum".

Age is already on almost every ignore list known to man. Just put him on yours and live a good long life.

For once, Age and I seem to agree. All this is MY "adult human" fault for trying to engage Age in conversation.

What is the 'this' word here even REFERRING TO, EXACTLY?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:56 pm I didn't think ignoring him was what he wanted so I tried to help. Now I see my mistake.

The MORE people IGNORE 'me' here in this forum, then the MORE of what I have been SAYING and CLAIMING is being PROVED ABSOLUTELY True, Right, Accurate, AND Correct OVER and OVER.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:56 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:28 pm

promethean75 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:12 pm "Gary Childress was doing reasonably well in his mental health recovery until a forum member named, Age, came to PN."

See? You have a good sense of humor so u can't be nuttso, Gary.

Nice try tho.

Gosh, that's the cornerstone of his self-concept.
It's his multi-pass for evading responsibility for his actions.
Why would you want to deprive him of what's working for him?

Well, I spent the first week of this October involuntarily detained in a local mental ward. I asked them repeatedly to let me out. The Dr. refused. Would you like me to send you the bill as proof?

Yes please. Send 'it' either here in this public forum or in a private message will be perfectly fine with me.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:44 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:14 pm Gary Childress was doing reasonably well in his mental health recovery until a forum member named, Age, came to PN.

Flash is right...

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:18 pmAge is already on almost every ignore list known to man. Just put him on yours and live a good long life.

Wading through the excessive convoluted ramblings of Age's perspective are not a path of clarity for anyone else. You have your own path of clarity, Gary, even if it feels hard to access sometimes. We all do.

It seems that it can be crazy-making to go too far down anyone else's path -- maybe because that is not meant as our attunement. It's like a different frequency. We are attuned for our own path and its potential.

Surely the divine speaks through all, and from many different perspectives, yes?

AND, WHO and WHAT thee 'Divine' IS, EXACTLY, is ALREADY KNOWN. Well by 'those' that is WHO ARE Truly LISTENING, and HEARING.

And THE WAY to be ABLE TO Truly LISTEN, and HEAR, has ALREADY been PARTLY EXPLAINED. But MOST OF 'those' hitherto BACK in the days when this was being written, were NOT YET PREPARED to LISTEN, and HEAR, and thus THE WORDS being CLEARLY EXPRESSED TO 'them' FELL, on what was once called and also KNOWN as 'deaf ears'.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:56 pm If anyone is claiming that only their perspective or idea of truth is true, I suggest: go find more.

YET "lacewing" was "ANOTHER" one who was CLAIMING that 'their perspective or idea' OF 'truth' was true.

As can be CLEARLY SEEN and RECOGNIZED here. Although "lacewing" would probably DENY 'this' ABSOLUTELY, that is; if 'it' was NOT SO CLOSED, DEAFENED, and BLINDED by 'its' OWN perspective or idea of truth being true.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:50 pm

Averroes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:38 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:14 pm Gary Childress was doing reasonably well in his mental health recovery

Hi Gary. That's good news. May I ask how did this recovery came about?

For a while I felt like I belonged in the world. That helped a lot. But it seems to be a futile belief. Age started to get to me with his weird posts and I began to get prophetic delusions of impending doom based on his "back in the days when this was written" trope.

BUT my so-called ' "weird" posts ' are NOT 'trope' AT ALL. My posts are FAR MORE literal, than figurative, if 'they' are 'figurative' AT ALL.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:50 pm I ended up in the mental ward a few weeks back. I mean, it's OK. Not his problem. We can't help but say and do what we think we ought to say and do. Life is what it is.

How many times have you 'ended up in' the so-called 'mental ward' "gary childress"?

Atla wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:05 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:50 pm

Averroes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:38 pm

Hi Gary. That's good news. May I ask how did this recovery came about?

For a while I felt like I belonged in the world. That helped a lot. But it seems to be a futile belief. Age started to get to me with his weird posts and I began to get prophetic delusions of impending doom based on his "back in the days when this was written" trope. I ended up in the mental ward a few weeks back. I mean, it's OK. Not his problem. We can't help but say and do what we think we ought to say and do. Life is what it is.

I know this is very difficult to imagine but Age was never actually talking to you. In early childhood we develop the theory-of-mind, the view that other people exist and have their own minds, and after that we can talk to them. Age never developed this, so she has the mentality of like a 2-year-old in that regard. She doesn't understand that she exists either. There is just a discord of texts and voices to her that don't belong to anyone, so she figured that they all must belong to God.

Well 'this' here SHOWS and PROVES just how CLEVER and SMART "atla" REALLY IS, right?

Atla wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:05 pm So she became a messenger who preaches that in the future, we will all understand that it's all just God talking.

BUT I have CLEARLY SPOKEN ABOUT how a LOT of what 'you', adult human beings, SAY IS NOT God TALKING AT ALL.

In Fact I have talked ABOUT the VERY OPPOSITE. And, what can be CLEARLY SEEN IN my writings is talk ABOUT 'you', individual people, which GOES ABSOLUTELY AGAINST what 'you' have 'TRIED TO' CLAIM above, "atla".

Atla wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:05 pm But 'back in the days' these imaginary people were too retarded to realize it.

ONCE AGAIN, what 'you' have CLAIMED here, is the VERY OPPOSITE OF what I have been SAYING and CLAIMING in this forum.

The very Fact that it is WITH and THROUGH the Intelligence, which IS WITHIN 'you', human beings, is HOW what I have been TALKING ABOUT COMES-TO-REALIZATION.

What 'this one' IS SAYING and CLAIMING here is just FURTHER IRREFUTABLE PROOF of 'CONFIRMATION BIAS' AT WORK, which DUE TO 'its' OWN ALREADY DISTORTED BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS.

As I have been CONTINUALLY TALKING ABOUT and MENTIONING here, while USING 'the words' OF "others" here to SHOW and PROVE, IRREFUTABLY.

Atla wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:05 pm Once you see how nuts all this is, imo it becomes pretty clear that there is no actual impending doom here at all.

'Impending doom' is a VERY relative term. So, there is ACTUAL 'impending doom' coming, FAR MORE QUICKLY THAN REALIZED ALSO, FOR SOME.

BUT, considering that I have NOT talked ABOUT 'impending doom' here, what 'you' are SAYING here "atla" has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH 'me'.

Oh, and by the way, what do the words 'all this is' REFERENCE TO, EXACTLY, anyway?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:08 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:05 pm Once you see how nuts all this is, imo it becomes pretty clear that there is no actual impending doom here at all.

What I'm seeing in the news about global habitat loss, species extinctions, Gaza, Ukraine, and Taiwan isn't encouraging either.

What is the 'talk about' in regards to "taiwain" in the 'news' that 'you' are seeing "gary childress"?

Also, COULD what 'you' are 'seeing' in 'the news' be A FORM of PROPAGANDA, INDOCTRINATION, and/or MANIPULATION TO 'see' and/or 'believe' SOME 'things', which may or may NOT even be ACTUALLY true AT ALL?

Or, is this NOT a possibility IN 'your world'?