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Re: Atla: Direct vs Indirection Perception, Noumena

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:21 am
by Atla
Skepdick wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:18 am
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:13 am
Skepdick wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:04 am
Yeah, but that's not the kind of philosophy you practice...

If anything you intentionally obscure people's clarity.
Well no, that's the one thing I don't do. But since you can neither process logic nor meaning/context, you probably can't imagine what clarity is to most people.
Contradiction. How would "most people" even know what clarity is like if most people have never attained it?

Q.E.D gaslighting seems to be your favourite tool for obscuring clarity.

Immoral is as immoral does...
By more clarity I mean that they generally have a better grasp of what's happening, the hows and whys. I don't know how it works in your chaotic mind, do you have something resembling "more clarity"?

Re: Atla: Direct vs Indirection Perception, Noumena

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:26 am
by Skepdick
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:21 am By more clarity I mean that they generally have a better grasp of what's happening, the hows and whys.
That's not clear at all. "Better" grasp than what? How much of "better" is good enough?
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:21 am I don't know how it works in your chaotic mind, do you have something resembling "more clarity"?
"More" than what?

Re: Atla: Direct vs Indirection Perception, Noumena

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:27 am
by Atla
Skepdick wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:26 am
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:21 am By more clarity I mean that they generally have a better grasp of what's happening, the hows and whys.
That's not clear at all. "Better" grasp than what? How much of "better" is good enough?
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:21 am I don't know how it works in your chaotic mind, do you have something resembling "more clarity"?
"More" than what?
Hm I suppose you don't..

Re: Atla: Direct vs Indirection Perception, Noumena

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:28 am
by Skepdick
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:27 am
Skepdick wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:26 am
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:21 am By more clarity I mean that they generally have a better grasp of what's happening, the hows and whys.
That's not clear at all. "Better" grasp than what? How much of "better" is good enough?
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:21 am I don't know how it works in your chaotic mind, do you have something resembling "more clarity"?
"More" than what?
Hm I suppose you don't..
Suppose I have the clarity to tell when idiot-philosophers are asking idiotic philosophical questions; but when the tables turn and I ask you to clarify your own questions you have no idea what you mean by "clarity".

So you don't even know what you are asking; or why you are asking it.
But I must answer you.

Are you saying that you lack clarity at present and you are looking for some?

Re: Atla: Direct vs Indirection Perception, Noumena

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:36 am
by Atla
Skepdick wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:28 am
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:27 am
Skepdick wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:26 am
That's not clear at all. "Better" grasp than what? How much of "better" is good enough?


"More" than what?
Hm I suppose you don't..
Suppose I have the clarity to tell when idiot-philosophers are asking idiotic philosophical questions; but when the tables turn and I ask you to clarify your own questions you have no idea what you mean by "clarity".

So you don't even know what you are asking; or why you are asking it.
But I must answer you.

Are you saying that you lack clarity at present and you are looking for some?
Not interested right now to explain to you neurotypical mind functioning in detail

Re: Atla: Direct vs Indirection Perception, Noumena

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:40 am
by Skepdick
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:36 am
Skepdick wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:28 am
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:27 am
Hm I suppose you don't..
Suppose I have the clarity to tell when idiot-philosophers are asking idiotic philosophical questions; but when the tables turn and I ask you to clarify your own questions you have no idea what you mean by "clarity".

So you don't even know what you are asking; or why you are asking it.
But I must answer you.

Are you saying that you lack clarity at present and you are looking for some?
Not interested right now to explain to you neurotypical mind functioning in detail
Oh good! Because I am not interested in you explaining my mind to me either.

I am interested in you explaining your mind to me.

What is unclear to you and what clarity do you seek?

Re: Atla: Direct vs Indirection Perception, Noumena

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:44 am
by Atla
Skepdick wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:40 am
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:36 am
Skepdick wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:28 am
Suppose I have the clarity to tell when idiot-philosophers are asking idiotic philosophical questions; but when the tables turn and I ask you to clarify your own questions you have no idea what you mean by "clarity".

So you don't even know what you are asking; or why you are asking it.
But I must answer you.

Are you saying that you lack clarity at present and you are looking for some?
Not interested right now to explain to you neurotypical mind functioning in detail
Oh good! Because I am not interested in you explaining my mind to me either.

I am interested in you explaining your mind to me.

What is unclear to you and what clarity do you seek?
I'm not exactly neurotypical either, usually not talking about myelf.

Re: Atla: Direct vs Indirection Perception, Noumena

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:46 am
by Skepdick
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:44 am I'm not exactly neurotypical either, usually not talking about myelf.
Oh, ok. So you had somebody else's clarity in mind?

Tell me more about it.