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Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:34 pm

K1Barin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:28 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:21 pm
I have no reason to think you deserve loving.

I still have reason to think you deserve some love.

Forget me; I will only break your heart.

Love implies two. There must be two, you know. I love somebody and somebody else loves me. Wherever there is division, there can't be love. We are trying to bridge this gap.

The heart that appears broken is NEVER broken.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:56 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:34 pm

K1Barin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:28 pm

I still have reason to think you deserve some love.

Forget me; I will only break your heart.

Love implies two. There must be two, you know. I love somebody and somebody else loves me. Wherever there is division, there can't be love. We are trying to bridge this gap.

The heart that appears broken is NEVER broken.

I agree. Mostly with the last sentence.

K1Barin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:21 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:56 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:34 pm

Forget me; I will only break your heart.

Love implies two. There must be two, you know. I love somebody and somebody else loves me. Wherever there is division, there can't be love. We are trying to bridge this gap.

The heart that appears broken is NEVER broken.

I agree. Mostly with the last sentence.

K1Barin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:32 pm What do we know about what God wants us to do exactly to start with? All our hearts, all our souls, and all our minds are abstract. What is there to initially cling to?

The words are abstractions and clinging to pre-conceived notions of what the words reference are necessary for conversation, but as we were taught by Brandon's weird State of the Union address, which the governor of Arkansas brilliantly critiqued, words are not reality. Poor old Brandon's lifetime of lying may have caused his brand of human mental decline.

Words are necessary for conservation* but they are not necessary for all communication.


* err, make that conversation, and blame the Greens for the error.

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:23 pm

K1Barin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:32 pm What do we know about what God wants us to do exactly to start with? All our hearts, all our souls, and all our minds are abstract. What is there to initially cling to?

The words are abstractions and clinging to pre-conceived notions of what the words reference are necessary for conversation, but as we were taught by Brandon's weird State of the Union address, which the governor of Arkansas brilliantly critiqued, words are not reality. Poor old Brandon's lifetime of lying may have caused his brand of human mental decline.

Words are necessary for conservation but they are not necessary for all communication.

http://praveennv.blogspot.com/2016/03/a ... ed-on.html

Non-Duality the ONE question to all our answers.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:26 pm Non-Duality the ONE question to all our answers.

Technically, one question can only be one word and still be non-dual.

Therefore, non-dual is two questions, not the ONE question.

There is the question of non.
There is the question of duality.

The question of non can be called the question of Nein. Why be a Niener and perpetually say no to perceivable reality?

The question of duality is about how the mind orders the universe with all that it perceives.

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:40 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:26 pm Non-Duality the ONE question to all our answers.

Technically, one question can only be one word and still be non-dual.

Therefore, non-dual is two questions, not the ONE question.

There is the question of non.
There is the question of duality.

The question of non can be called the question of Nein. Why be a Niener and perpetually say no to perceivable reality?

The question of duality is about how the mind orders the universe with all that it perceives.

Thanks for one of the answers.

Questions only arise to the sense of a separate self. Where there is none, except in this conception.

Illusions are real apparently.

How does one love oneself without eventually getting an ego overdose. What does it imply to love oneself when the priority would seem to be to live with oneself in reasonable harmony which also means critically; and what does all this silly loving of oneself have to do with god in the first place?

Dubious wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:13 pm How does one love oneself without eventually getting an ego overdose. What does it imply to love oneself when the priority would seem to be to live with oneself in reasonable harmony which also means critically; and what does all this silly loving of oneself have to do with god in the first place?

Loving oneself in obedience of the almighty and Loving God is not getting an ego overdose. And Loving oneself in obedience of God is in harmony with the universe.

K1Barin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:01 pm Loving oneself in obedience of the almighty and Loving God is not getting an ego overdose. And Loving oneself in obedience of God is in harmony with the universe.

Whom or what one loves is purely a matter for oneself, as is whom or what one owes obedience to. I don't want your telling me whom to love and obey.

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:22 pm

K1Barin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:01 pm Loving oneself in obedience of the almighty and Loving God is not getting an ego overdose. And Loving oneself in obedience of God is in harmony with the universe.

Whom or what one loves is purely a matter for oneself, as is whom or what one owes obedience to. I don't want your telling me whom to love and obey.

Never mind who is there to Love you and whom is there to obey.

K1Barin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:36 pm
Never mind who is there to Love you and whom is there to obey.

I could say the same to you.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:22 pm

K1Barin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:21 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:56 pm
Love implies two. There must be two, you know. I love somebody and somebody else loves me. Wherever there is division, there can't be love. We are trying to bridge this gap.

The heart that appears broken is NEVER broken.

I agree. Mostly with the last sentence.

Thanks to God for good people in the world.

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:01 pm

K1Barin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:36 pm
Never mind who is there to Love you and whom is there to obey.

I could say the same to you.

I know.

What I want to say is: believe in the almighty and the most Loving God up there, and Love yourself for that sake, and give thanks for it all.