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No more 'edits'? Made up your befuddled little mind yet?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:23 pm No more 'edits'? Made up your befuddled little mind yet?

It's a lot of work mocking you in your own framing. 90% of the time you don't even get the joke.

For the next round I'll mock you from Trajk Logik's perspecive

To him you don't even quality as woman despite your vagina. He claims he uses the term "woman" for the purposes of "reproduction" so a woman is any '"reproductively capable partner". You seem wee bit past reproductive shelf life.

How does ex-woman work for you?

So now it uses the 'I was joking' escape route. Hilarious

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:38 pm So now it uses the 'I was joking' escape route. Hilarious

Escape route? It's cute how you are trying to assert control over framing though.

Joking? NO! I am mocking you. The joke's at your expense

There's more How much 'editing' does it take for a person to make sense?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:12 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:08 pm Oh, a misogynistic, ageist male wokie. How unusual and unexpected

Mysoginistyc? Naaaaah. I think you are trash, not your chromosomes; or your vagina.

For the record...

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:01 am

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:12 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:08 pm Oh, a misogynistic, ageist male wokie. How unusual and unexpected

Mysoginistyc? Naaaaah. I think you are trash, not your chromosomes; or your vagina.

For the record...

Was the distinction between your identity and your physiology too higher grade an insult for you?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:36 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:01 am

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:12 pm
Mysoginistyc? Naaaaah. I think you are trash, not your chromosomes; or your vagina.

For the record...

Was the distinction between your identity and your physiology too higher grade an insult for you?

Keep digging...

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:48 am Keep digging...

A shallow grave for your dignity?

dattaswami wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:00 amSo much was their attraction to Rāma that they wished to become females and embrace Rāma. But remember, the sages only wished to embrace Rāma. They did not wish to have sex with Rāma.

So they were just teases? How did Rāma feel about being left high and dry by these so-called sages? Not even a handy? Were the sages only in it for the free dinner?

wtf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:29 am

dattaswami wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:00 amSo much was their attraction to Rāma that they wished to become females and embrace Rāma. But remember, the sages only wished to embrace Rāma. They did not wish to have sex with Rāma.

So they were just teases? How did Rāma feel about being left high and dry by these so-called sages? Not even a handy? Were the sages only in it for the free dinner?

Oh, they probably got it on with him....

In Hindu mythology, there are deities or heroes whose attributes or behavior can be interpreted as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender (LGBT) or have elements of gender variance and non-heterosexual sexuality. Traditional Hindu literary sources do not speak of homosexuality directly,[1] but changes of sex, homoerotic encounters, and intersex or third gender characters are often found both in traditional religious narratives such as the Vedas, Mahabharata, Ramayana and Puranas as well as in regional folklore.

Hindu mythology has many examples of deities changing gender, manifesting as different genders at different times, or combining to form androgynous or hermaphroditic beings. Gods change sex or manifest as an avatar of the opposite sex in order to facilitate sexual congress.[2][3][4][5] Non-divine beings also undergo sex-changes through the actions of the gods, as the result of curses or blessings, or as the natural outcome of reincarnation.

Hindu mythology contains numerous incidents where sexual interactions serve a non-sexual, sacred purpose; in some cases, these are same-sex interactions. Sometimes the gods condemn these interactions but at other times they occur with their blessing.[6][7]

In addition to stories of gender and sexual variance that are generally accepted by mainstream Hinduism, modern scholars and queer activists have highlighted LGBT themes in lesser-known texts, or inferred them from stories that traditionally are considered to have no homoerotic subtext. Such analyses have caused disagreements about the true meaning of the ancient stories.[8][9]

More on this here....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_them ... _mythology
https://indianexpress.com/article/paren ... y-5273332/
https://therevivalzine.com/2020/12/20/l ... n-history/
https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-o ... s-hinduism

Is homosexuality a sin? No, of course not. What a stupid thing to assume.

The animated illuminated life force is just what's happening, there is absolutely nothing sacred or divine or holy about life as it is happening. Life is just nothing being everything.

In the story, where knowledge is known, a man and woman is what's required to make a baby. Man and woman are needed to indulge in intercourse to make a baby happen, but only because the man and the woman want to make a baby. Or they may not want to make a baby, they may just want to indulge in intercourse because they want to give each other sexual pleasure, and there would be nothing more to this life action than that.


While it is true the instruments that life uses to make a baby, are a man and a woman. There is no rule to say that same gendered people are not permitted to give each other sexual pleasure and gratification if that's what they both consent to doing. No one who is consenting to something can be accused of being a sinner, that's just dumb religious poison that tries to control the minds of others.


There is nothing sinful about human beings giving and sharing with each other some moments of consentual pleasure, no matter what gender you are.

Religious belief is like a poison to the mind because it tries to take control by believing it has an overriding authority over other peoples choices in life.

Yes, in the story where knowledge is known, the conceptual dream of separation, it is a sin to deliberately kill or harm another human being, because that's simply not the thing to do to other human beings, because we are able to discern the difference between a chaotic lifestyle from a civilised way of living in the world. And as purveyors of knowledge we choose to be civilised.

If we are going to start accusing the same gendered people who just want to be together out of their genuine love for each other, as being sinful people then we are deliberately turning love into a sinful act...which is just absolutely and utterly insulting to anyone with an ounce of intelligence....might as well say it's a fucking sin to procreate at all, ffs.

Why don't you religious twats just stop fucking all together, stop fucking with peoples minds, and stop fucking women to get them pregnant with more sinners to continue polluting this world full of sinners, even more than it is already according to religious nutcases.

dattaswami wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:25 pm https://youtu.be/B_e-UEUbnBk

You do not have to listen to a weird dude dressed in an orange curtain to know what homosexuality is.

Homosexuality is common throughout nature. You can see examples of it in many animals species, most significantly in out nearest relative in the ape world; the Benobo.

People do not choose their sexual orientation. We are all given it as we grow, and something shocking happens in our early teens.
Speaking for myself. I pretty much woke up one morning with a strange interest in girls, and an erection every time I thought about, saw, or was near, attractive females, either in the flesh, on tv, in pictures or even when sex was described in fiction.
Without asking or choosing I was hooked on seeking out the female body.
There was no way on earth I could have chosen to be gay.

If sin is breaking the law of god, you have to ask why would homosexuality be a sin, when sexual orientation is not a choice. Because if sexual orientation is not a choice then it has to be natural - or a choice of god.

To talk about 'homosexuality' in the animal kingdom is arrogant anthropomorphism. Those lions in the photos are in closely bonded male groups. They are affectionate towards each other because of the close bond they have. It's not sexual. Bonobos do the same thing for different reasons. It's ridiculous to talk about 'lesbian' or 'homosexual' lions etc. Those are human concepts. You might as well talk about 'racist' chimps. Or 'left wing' dolphins.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pm To talk about 'homosexuality' in the animal kingdom is arrogant anthropomorphism.

Yes it is.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pmThose lions in the photos are in closely bonded male groups. They are affectionate towards each other because of the close bond they have. It's not sexual.

I agree.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pm It's ridiculous to talk about 'lesbian' or 'homosexual' lions etc. Those are human concepts. You might as well talk about 'racist' chimps. Or 'left wing' dolphins.

Very well said.

Humans are caught up in their own man-made conceptual traps. The only way out of this conceptual trap, is to stop breeding more humans that will also become victims of the same trap their parents are in, which they unconsciously pass on to their offspring. Until they become conscious of what they are doing, and stop doing it.