Philosophy Now Forum

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 6:42 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 12:37 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:06 pm

Enlightenment is an assertion of a state of self by the self and as such anyone can claim it. It is purely subjective and there is no law stating who can or cannot claim it.

Enlightenment is a word. Those who fit the definition are those to whom the word can be assigned, by folks who understand the meaning of the word. If you don't know the meaning of the word, begin your quest for meaning with a dictionary.

And the circumstances that meet this meaning are subjectively argued as the state of enlightenment is a subjective experience. There are plenty of people that argue one man is enlightened while another group will argue the opposite.

If the meaning of the term enlightenment is relegate to a dictionary defintion than by default the term is merely a consensus and as consensus is probabalistic ad words are subject to language games.

Enlightenment is merely a probablistic interpretation.

Beautifully executed, I mean said.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 6:42 pm
If the meaning of the term enlightenment is relegate to a dictionary defintion than by default the term is merely a consensus and as consensus is probabalistic ad words are subject to language games.

This is precisely the reason why unenlightened first graders must continue on with their education, and not settle for AI standards of understanding that will rewrite the dictionaries.

Walker wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:29 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 6:42 pm
If the meaning of the term enlightenment is relegate to a dictionary defintion than by default the term is merely a consensus and as consensus is probabalistic ad words are subject to language games.

This is precisely the reason why unenlightened first graders must continue on with their education, and not settle for AI standards of understanding that will rewrite the dictionaries.

Dictionaries change over the years, the meaning of words dissolves in time.

I created a new username and tried posting the following text and video under the "Math and logic" section. It has been hung up with the moderators for 5 days now. This morning I tried to log in with that username and it rejected the request

I think this is being repressed. I think it has the Philosophy Now folks in a panic. This is the greatest revelation in human history. No hyperbole intended.

This is the great deprogramming. School/academia has brainwashed and programed us to such a degree that people are unable to accept that it's all been false. But look at where humanity is. We are spiraling into madness and hell at an exponential rate. Why? How did it get so bad? Well this is how. And where.

https://chatgpt.com/share/67b38273-1378 ... 894b40734f

https://youtu.be/xnwklLGHFJ0?si=p4vLdaclqfFnFJ5_

Yes, the moderators denied that topic post and deleted the new username.

This is proof that it's got them in a tizzy.

roydop wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:51 pm I created a new username and tried posting the following text and video under the "Math and logic" section. It has been hung up with the moderators for 5 days now.

Just curious, why would you want a new username, what’s up with your regular username?

roydop wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:51 pm

This is the great deprogramming. School/academia has brainwashed and programed us to such a degree that people are unable to accept that it's all been false. But look at where humanity is. We are spiraling into madness and hell at an exponential rate. Why? How did it get so bad? Well this is how. And where.

Maybe people are intentionally self destructing and don’t really care anymore about life.

Maybe we’ve realised it’s a dead end game and there’s nothing to gain or achieve by perpetuating it anymore.

Maybe we’re all sick and tired of being sick and tired. Of having to live the same treadmill of life over and over again working ourselves into the ground just to lose everything and die anyway.

Maybe it’s just not worth the effort to live anymore.

Maybe it’s time to slowly extinct ourselves like you yourself have suggested.

We’ve only been around for a short while within the grand scheme of things. It’s not like we’re going to be around for as long as the dinosaurs were around.

Maybe no one cares they’ve been living a brainwashed lie all their lives. I don’t.

If humanity has fucked up their lives and wrecked the planet then maybe it’s because we’re just too stupid and dumb to realise just how dumb and stupid we are.

The universe is not grieving the non existence of Martians on planet mars, so I’m sure we’ll not be missed either.

It’ll all be over soon anyway, nothing ever lasts forever. Good riddance to it all. I can’t wait to return to non existence and insignificance nothingness.

what if Nietzsche was right? de ja vu?

-Imp

That’s what happens in the illusion of choice.

You either choose to live right or you choose to live wrong.

You can choose peace or you can choose war.

You can choose to love or you can choose to hate.

You are the creator after all.

What you wish for you’ll get.

You are the genie here.

So be careful what you wish for.

The nature of the Mind when understood,
No human speech can compass or disclose.
Enlightenment is naught to be attained,
And he that gains it does not say he knows.
Bodhidharma