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dattaswami wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:34 pm This means that when matter and energy disappear, space also disappears spontaneously.
With reference to the absolute existence of unimaginable God,

According to Einstein's GRT: matter + energy create a gravitational space,
and light near the gravitational masses changes its rectilinear motion.
And when matter and energy disappear, gravity-space and gravity-time also spontaneously disappear.
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Book : ''Albert Einstein''
'' A world without masses, without electrons, without an electromagnetic field is an empty world.
Such an empty world is flat. But if masses appear, if charged particles appear,
if an electromagnetic field appears then our world becomes curved.
Its geometry is Riemannian, that is, non- Euclidian.''
/ the page 116, by Leopold Infeld. /

socrat44 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:08 am If I am a rational person, then why is the universe so paradoxical?

Paradoxes are the indispensable stimulus for the thought that wants to understand.

Will it be possible to resolve the paradox through rationality?
Or am I faced with a rationally insoluble paradox?

Is the limit of the conceivable relative or absolute?

If relative, the moment will come when it can be overcome.

But if the limit is absolute, what is this paradox telling me?
Isn't it turning to me so that I think differently from how I have always thought?

socrat44 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:08 am If I am a rational person, then why is the universe so paradoxical?

Because (a part of) the universe is trying to understand the universe. Now, why would the universe want to do that?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:05 pm

socrat44 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:08 am If I am a rational person, then why is the universe so paradoxical?

Because (a part of) the universe is trying to understand the universe. Now, why would the universe want to do that?

It is existence that seeks the Truth.

bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:13 pm It is existence that seeks the Truth.

Weird. I thought the Truth and Existence were synonymous.

Pretending they are diferent is a fine way to make sure you are chasing your own tail.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:21 pm

bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:13 pm It is existence that seeks the Truth.

Weird. I thought the Truth and Existence were synonymous.

Pretending they are diferent is a fine way to make sure you are chasing your own tail.

I thought so too.

But then I had to realize that existence is essentially a lack.
A lack that needs to be filled.

And this can only happen with the Truth.

Existence is the non-being that wants to be.

bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:45 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:21 pm

bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:13 pm It is existence that seeks the Truth.

Weird. I thought the Truth and Existence were synonymous.

Pretending they are diferent is a fine way to make sure you are chasing your own tail.

I thought so too.

But then I had to realize that existence is essentially a lack.
A lack that needs to be filled.

And this can only happen with the Truth.

Existence is the non-being that wants to be.

Sounds like an ellaborate anthropomorphism.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:49 pm

bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:45 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:21 pm
Weird. I thought the Truth and Existence were synonymous.

Pretending they are diferent is a fine way to make sure you are chasing your own tail.

I thought so too.

But then I had to realize that existence is essentially a lack.
A lack that needs to be filled.

And this can only happen with the Truth.

Existence is the non-being that wants to be.

Sounds like an ellaborate anthropomorphism.

I don't think existence can be thought of through categories.

Only you can tell what existence is, in perfect solitude.

bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:06 pm I don't think existence can be thought of through categories.

Only you can tell what existence is, in perfect solitude.

That's because thoughts and thinking are a tiny part of existence.

No amount of solitude will help my tiny monkey brain grok it all.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:21 pm

bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:13 pm It is existence that seeks the Truth.

Weird. I thought the Truth and Existence were synonymous.

Pretending they are diferent is a fine way to make sure you are chasing your own tail.

I think Bobmax must mean experience seeks reality. As we know, experience is always oriented towards tomorrow.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:46 pm

bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:06 pm I don't think existence can be thought of through categories.

Only you can tell what existence is, in perfect solitude.

That's because thoughts and thinking are a tiny part of existence.

No amount of solitude will help my tiny monkey brain grok it all.

Yes, but also no.

It depends on the point of view in which you put yourself.

If for you the meaning of existence is totally enclosed in logic, then you see yourself as a tiny grain of sand in the immensity of the universe.

But if for you the logic does not cover everything, rather it is based on arbitrary and probably wrong assumptions, then you are not even that grain of sand.
But who are you then?

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:33 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:21 pm

bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:13 pm It is existence that seeks the Truth.

Weird. I thought the Truth and Existence were synonymous.

Pretending they are diferent is a fine way to make sure you are chasing your own tail.

I think Bobmax must mean experience seeks reality. As we know, experience is always oriented towards tomorrow.

Yes, existence is communication, only communication.

Thought is also communication.
In fact, to think I have to split in two, and thus dialogue between me and me.

Existence is communication, where the subjects who appear to communicate are functional to the same communication.
They do not exist by themselves!

And communication is ultimately the search for the One.

bobmax wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:04 am

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:33 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:21 pm
Weird. I thought the Truth and Existence were synonymous.

Pretending they are diferent is a fine way to make sure you are chasing your own tail.

I think Bobmax must mean experience seeks reality. As we know, experience is always oriented towards tomorrow.

Yes, existence is communication, only communication.

Thought is also communication.
In fact, to think I have to split in two, and thus dialogue between me and me.

Existence is communication, where the subjects who appear to communicate are functional to the same communication.
They do not exist by themselves!

And communication is ultimately the search for the One.

Uh. No. Existence as a whole doesn't communicate with anything, because communication necessitates two parties to any communication: ; but there is only one existence.

Parts of existence can communicate with other parts of existence; but only once you split existence into parts.

bobmax wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:04 am

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:33 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:21 pm
Weird. I thought the Truth and Existence were synonymous.

Pretending they are diferent is a fine way to make sure you are chasing your own tail.

I think Bobmax must mean experience seeks reality. As we know, experience is always oriented towards tomorrow.

Yes, existence is communication, only communication.

Thought is also communication.
In fact, to think I have to split in two, and thus dialogue between me and me.

Existence is communication, where the subjects who appear to communicate are functional to the same communication.
They do not exist by themselves!

And communication is ultimately the search for the One.

Communication is not the search for "the One". You can't communicate if you are in solitary confinement, or suffering from shut-in syndrome.In both these cases and in all other cases the search for "the One" is via experience. Experience when it is absolute experience, is "the One".

Because experience is ultimately all of what there is ,experience , when it's split into separate lives, is what links us to the absolute.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:43 am Uh. No. Existence as a whole doesn't communicate with anything, because communication necessitates two parties to any communication: ; but there is only one existence.

Parts of existence can communicate with other parts of existence; but only once you split existence into parts.

This is the correct way to see the world from a logical point of view.

In fact, logic sees the world divided into parts, and it is these parts that communicate.

However, are we sure that this view is really right?
Is reality really intrinsically multiple?

Isn't the universe born of a singularity?
What about quantum entanglement?

Is communication a transfer of "truth" from one side to another, or is it the emergence of the truth that is already necessarily everywhere?