Page 3 of 3
Re: TRUE = FALSE
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:18 am
by Sculptor
Magnolia5275 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:26 am
TRUE = FALSE
Proof:
Let's suppose that what is TRUE is TRUE:
-> TRUE = TRUE
IF TRUE = TRUE and TRUE = TRUE then:
TRUE = (TRUE = TRUE)
If for any TRUE -> TRUE = (TRUE = TRUE) then:
TRUE = (TRUE = (TRUE = (TRUE = (TRUE = (TRUE =... (infinity...)
Here is where you make your first mistake.
Thus, IF TRUE = TRUE then TRUE never = TRUE so:
Here is where you make your big mistake.
TRUE = NOT TRUE
Therefore:
TRUE = FALSE
End of Proof.
Re: TRUE = FALSE
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:31 am
by popeye1945
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:05 am
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:21 am
There is no such thing as simplicity or complexity in and of functions themselves, it is a reference to the limitations of the human intellect, like most things of nature, they have no real meanings in and of themselves but reference a conscious subject, for in the absence of a conscious subject the physical world is utterly meaningless.
And 'consciousness' is an undefined word open to the Munchhausen trilemma. As such anything can be defined as conscious.
If that is your belief, modern physics is wasting its time trying to understand human consciousness.
Re: TRUE = FALSE
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:08 am
by popeye1945
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:31 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:05 am
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:21 am
There is no such thing as simplicity or complexity in and of functions themselves, it is a reference to the limitations of the human intellect, like most things of nature, they have no real meanings in and of themselves but reference a conscious subject, for in the absence of a conscious subject the physical world is utterly meaningless.
And 'consciousness' is an undefined word open to the Munchhausen trilemma. As such anything can be defined as conscious.
If that is your belief, modern physics is wasting its time trying to understand human consciousness. Are you then a panpsychist?
Re: TRUE = FALSE
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:31 pm
by Eodnhoj7
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:31 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:05 am
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:21 am
There is no such thing as simplicity or complexity in and of functions themselves, it is a reference to the limitations of the human intellect, like most things of nature, they have no real meanings in and of themselves but reference a conscious subject, for in the absence of a conscious subject the physical world is utterly meaningless.
And 'consciousness' is an undefined word open to the Munchhausen trilemma. As such anything can be defined as conscious.
If that is your belief, modern physics is wasting its time trying to understand human consciousness.
Physics ignores this paradox:
1. We study matter through tools.
2. These tools are made of matter.
3. Matter results in the study of matter.
4. Matter is consciousness.
Re: TRUE = FALSE
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:11 am
by popeye1945
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:08 am
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:31 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:05 am
And 'consciousness' is an undefined word open to the Munchhausen trilemma. As such anything can be defined as conscious.
If that is your belief, modern physics is wasting its time trying to understand human consciousness. Are you then a panpsychist?
One doesn't have to be anything but human to appreciate that the senses and judgment both enable and limit one's knowledge of the world. The creation of instruments/sensors which enable one to quest beyond what is available to human sensory organs still must be interpreted by human consciousness. One doesn't need to fully understand something in order to know it exists and to know it is not a hamburger. Yes, I would say I am a panpsychist, I look at it as just an expansion of wonder. Human limitations of the mind are the reason your phone number is not seventy-three digits long.