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Re: The Continuum Concept in Practice

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:48 pm
by Skepdick
Atla wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:39 pm
Skepdick wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:38 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:32 pm
"don't know for certain" isn't the middle between yes and no.
However you qualify your lack of knowledge it doesn't get you off the fence.
The fence is a treatment of the yes/no question from one level higher, something you can't understand because you lack abstract thinking.
Oh no! He exploits Cunningham's law again! Demanding education without having to admit ignorance.

The fence is known as the Either() monad in Computational terms.

Either(No, Yes)

While you are busy choosing.... nothing happens.
Until you choose - you are agnostic.
When you choose - you stop being agnostic.

The Either monad is a type used in functional programming to represent values with two possibilities, typically representing a value that could be the result of a successful computation or the result of an error.

Here's a simple breakdown:

Definition: Either usually has two data constructors. In languages like Haskell, they are Left and Right. By convention:

Left typically represents an error or an exceptional case.
Right represents a successful result.

Re: The Continuum Concept in Practice

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:55 pm
by Atla
Skepdick wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:48 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:39 pm
Skepdick wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:38 pm
However you qualify your lack of knowledge it doesn't get you off the fence.
The fence is a treatment of the yes/no question from one level higher, something you can't understand because you lack abstract thinking.
Oh no! He exploits Cunningham's law again! Demanding education without having to admit ignorance.

The fence is known as the Either() monad in Computational terms.

Either(No, Yes)

While you are busy choosing.... nothing happens.
Until you choose - you are agnostic.
When you choose - you stop being agnostic.

The Either monad is a type used in functional programming to represent values with two possibilities, typically representing a value that could be the result of a successful computation or the result of an error.

Here's a simple breakdown:

Definition: Either usually has two data constructors. In languages like Haskell, they are Left and Right. By convention:

Left typically represents an error or an exceptional case.
Right represents a successful result.
No it' not. Only a genuine retard would think that abstract thinking has an equivalent in computer languages. All computer systems are 1-layered in that sense. And no, agnosticism isn't the same thing as waiting for choosing.

Re: The Continuum Concept in Practice

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:09 pm
by Skepdick
Atla wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:55 pm No it' not. Only a genuine retard would think that abstract thinking has an equivalent in computer languages. All computer systems are 1-layered in that sense. And no, agnosticism isn't the same thing as waiting for choosing.
Idiot-agnostic doesn't understand computation is the universal abstraction.

Abstracting abstractions.
Thinking about thinking.
Reasoning about reason.
Philosophising about philosophy.

Meta-meta-meta-meta....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_completeness

Re: The Continuum Concept in Practice

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:27 pm
by Atla
Skepdick wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:09 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:55 pm No it' not. Only a genuine retard would think that abstract thinking has an equivalent in computer languages. All computer systems are 1-layered in that sense. And no, agnosticism isn't the same thing as waiting for choosing.
Idiot-agnostic doesn't understand computation is the universal abstraction.

Abstracting abstractions.
Thinking about thinking.
Reasoning about reason.
Philosophising about philosophy.

Meta-meta-meta-meta....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_completeness
No subhuman, Turing completeness is 1-layered when compared to abstract thinking.

Re: The Continuum Concept in Practice

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:38 pm
by Skepdick
Atla wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:27 pm No subhuman, Turing completeness is 1-layered when compared to abstract thinking.
OK, idiot. If I can think abstractly about you thinking abstractly about me thinking abstractly about you thinking abstractly...ad infinitum number of layers.

That's turing completeness.

Re: The Continuum Concept in Practice

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:43 pm
by Atla
Skepdick wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:38 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:27 pm No subhuman, Turing completeness is 1-layered when compared to abstract thinking.
OK, idiot. If I can think abstractly about you thinking abstractly about me thinking abstractly about you thinking abstractly...ad infinitum number of layers.

That's turing completeness.
These kind of layers have nothing to do with abstract thinking.

Re: The Continuum Concept in Practice

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:46 pm
by Skepdick
Atla wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:43 pm These kind of layers have nothing to do with abstract thinking.
You don't sound very agnostic about that.

Re: The Continuum Concept in Practice

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:51 pm
by Atla
Skepdick wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:46 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:43 pm These kind of layers have nothing to do with abstract thinking.
You don't sound very agnostic about that.
okay these things are simply far too stupid for me to interact with any further

Re: The Continuum Concept in Practice

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:54 pm
by Skepdick
Atla wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:51 pm
Skepdick wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:46 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:43 pm These kind of layers have nothing to do with abstract thinking.
You don't sound very agnostic about that.
okay these things are simply far too stupid for me to interact with any further
So much non-agnosticism... Shut up and be agnostic already.