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I am NOT chasing after the transient. So, ONCE AGAIN, YOUR ABSURD ASSUMPTION here is Wrong ALSO.
The Basic Argument: (1) Matter was only known to us by its sensible qualities. (2) It was impossible to describe, or even imagine matter without these qualities. (3) Absence of sensible qualities, matter, by definition, loses its essential qualities
. Work Cited Bishop Berkeley, George. Complete Works of George Berkeley,
Oxford Clarendon Press, 1901 CE. Digital. Accessed 4/15/2022 CE.Three Dialogues between Hylas and Philonous,
that sensible qualities were not inherent in matter. But, ascribed and understood by the mind,
Work Cited Bishop Berkeley, George. Complete Works of George Berkeley,
Oxford Clarendon Press, 1901 CE. Digital. Accessed 4/15/2022 CE.Three Dialogues between Hylas and Philonous,
'Lectures on the History of Philosophy', Translated by Elizabeth Sanderson Haldane, Delphi Classics, 2019 CE, Accessed 4/15/2022 CE, Digital.Berkeley by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,
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Matter is form.puto wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:46 am Bishop George Berkeley, circa 1685-1753 CE,The Basic Argument: (1) Matter was only known to us by its sensible qualities. (2) It was impossible to describe, or even imagine matter without these qualities. (3) Absence of sensible qualities, matter, by definition, loses its essential qualities. Work Cited Bishop Berkeley, George. Complete Works of George Berkeley,Oxford Clarendon Press, 1901 CE. Digital. Accessed 4/15/2022 CE.Three Dialogues between Hylas and Philonous,
Bishop George Berkeley upheld,that sensible qualities were not inherent in matter. But, ascribed and understood by the mind,Work Cited Bishop Berkeley, George. Complete Works of George Berkeley,Oxford Clarendon Press, 1901 CE. Digital. Accessed 4/15/2022 CE.Three Dialogues between Hylas and Philonous,
The man was a genius and that Idealism: All external reality disappears, and it proceeds directly from him. Work Cited Bishop Berkeley, George. Complete Works of George Berkeley,'Lectures on the History of Philosophy', Translated by Elizabeth Sanderson Haldane, Delphi Classics, 2019 CE, Accessed 4/15/2022 CE, Digital.Berkeley by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,
Hylas, "...The substance and its qualities being entirely unknown to me." Phil, "What? You are then of opinion..." Lol. Have fun with that quote.
23. Not sufficient.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:50 pm1. That.
2. Yes you are as chasing after a thing is chasing after that which is relative. Reality is not a thing.
No, what I am saying is the being occurs through context. This necessitates a context within a context as a context, etc. This self-referentiality of context leaves context obscure. Considering being occurs through context this leaves being obscure as well. Being is thus indefinite and as indefinite is not premised on conditions.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:43 pm Eod,
Is what you are trying to say that the biological subject/consciousness is the knower of the world, the eyes, ears, and consciousness of the world, as the only means by which the physical world comes to knows itself?
Eodnhoj7.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:20 pmNo, what I am saying is the being occurs through context. This necessitates a context within a context as a context, etc. This self-referentiality of context leaves context obscure. Considering being occurs through context this leaves being obscure as well. Being is thus indefinite and as indefinite is not premised on conditions.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:43 pm Eod,
Is what you are trying to say that the biological subject/consciousness is the knower of the world, the eyes, ears, and consciousness of the world, as the only means by which the physical world comes to knows itself?
The absence of thingness which occurs universally and is unchanging as there is no-thing to change.
Being occurs through limits. These limits are categories. Given categories exist through consciousness, and all being exists through categories, then all being is conscious.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:11 amEodnhoj7.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:20 pmNo, what I am saying is the being occurs through context. This necessitates a context within a context as a context, etc. This self-referentiality of context leaves context obscure. Considering being occurs through context this leaves being obscure as well. Being is thus indefinite and as indefinite is not premised on conditions.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:43 pm Eod,
Is what you are trying to say that the biological subject/consciousness is the knower of the world, the eyes, ears, and consciousness of the world, as the only means by which the physical world comes to knows itself?
You are not making sense to me. Contexts are like categories we divided things up into smaller portions or draw a circle around what we wish to understand due to humanity's limited mental ability to understand the totality, that being the actual context. Seeing that the earth is an open system the context/totality is unknown if the universe itself is open, this we do not know. When an organism is born into the world it has no identity it is acquired through moving through the physical world experiencing feeling thinking knowing and acquiring an identity thus. It seems to me you put to much emphasis upon imaginary lines, do you imagine that the myriad of thus defined contexts are all supportive of life. I guess what I am trying to say is, what is the point of your argument. If it is that fact that the physical world/object is necessary for the existence of the subject that has been establish a very long time ago. If I am confused please enlighten. " Think subject and object stand or fall together." Schopenhauer